[BOXING]Adrien Broner vs Chris Howard (Welterweight) Nov 4. . - page 2.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 29, 2023, 07:02:51 AM

Possible, but I'm not seeing any fight next week that can fit this fight. Besides, as what we have seen, Broner is way past his prime and then facing a fighter who is also inactive for many years.

Broner is just here for the money he is just prolonging his stay he cannot beat the top fighters in the welterweight division I'd like to see him lose this fight he is just too arrogant for everybody, and will never admit that he loses a fight, the only way Broner will be humbled is if he loses by knock out, he still tough but the speed and the power is good, he is escaping knock out because he knows how to hold and to run when he is in trouble.

But once he faces a fighter like Ennis or Ortiz his career will be over because he cannot keep up with the power of these guys its better for him to just take up other jobs in boxing like boxing manager, promoter, or trainer, fighting is not for him anymore.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 17, 2023, 09:05:52 AM

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Yes, most likely this is the case, as we all know that Broner doesn't have the hype anymore and obviously his opponent? We don't know him really. So it's a good move for the promoters, or maybe it will be good if this could be in some undercard, so that there will be exposure.

But in any case that the promoters are going to make this a stand alone fight, might be difficult to make money. Unless they really low ball both of this fighters to accept the fight with small money.

Everybody knows Adrien Broner! He's a former champion and even went head-to-head with Manny Pacquiao. Maybe the reason this fight isn't for a championship is that they're trying to figure out how to make it appealing to the fans and generate a ton of money.

I think everyone is more familiar of Broner losing to Marcos Maidana and becoming the internet meme for years. He is somewhat on the downside of his career when he was given that sweepstakes to have a fight with Manny and for sure he made a ton of money out of it. But he lost that fight and his comments post fight interview is one of the craziest.

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If they're having trouble finding the right timing, they could make this fight an undercard for a popular main event in boxing. Or, Broner might just decide to leave professional boxing and jump into the hype of exhibition matches. Who knows, maybe he'll even take on one of the Paul Brothers!

Possible, but I'm not seeing any fight next week that can fit this fight. Besides, as what we have seen, Broner is way past his prime and then facing a fighter who is also inactive for many years.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 17, 2023, 06:45:17 AM

Yes, most likely this is the case, as we all know that Broner doesn't have the hype anymore and obviously his opponent? We don't know him really. So it's a good move for the promoters, or maybe it will be good if this could be in some undercard, so that there will be exposure.

But in any case that the promoters are going to make this a stand alone fight, might be difficult to make money. Unless they really low ball both of this fighters to accept the fight with small money.

Everybody knows Adrien Broner! He's a former champion and even went head-to-head with Manny Pacquiao. Maybe the reason this fight isn't for a championship is that they're trying to figure out how to make it appealing to the fans and generate a ton of money.

If they're having trouble finding the right timing, they could make this fight an undercard for a popular main event in boxing. Or, Broner might just decide to leave professional boxing and jump into the hype of exhibition matches. Who knows, maybe he'll even take on one of the Paul Brothers!

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 16, 2023, 10:35:34 PM

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There’s been a change in the schedule. The fight between Adrien Broner and Chris Howard, which was originally set for November 4th, has been moved to December 2nd. This fight is scheduled for 10 rounds in the Welterweight division.

I think Broner's ranking at 15 in the Welterweight division under WBC shows that he still has potential.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-pushed-back-december-2--178511

There's only one reason why this fight was moved if I may speculate. I'm sure the promoters weren't able to meet his expectations in terms of ticket sales and anything else related to the fight's revenue. This isn't a very popular fight, although I must say that Broner is quite popular, but it's not a championship fight, so it's not expected to generate a lot of money.

Regarding this kind of fight, I'm not sure if it will proceed since it has already been moved. Worse, it might even be canceled, as it hasn't gained much attention from boxing enthusiasts. This could put Broner's finances in jeopardy, especially if the rumors about him living paycheck to paycheck in boxing are true.

Yes, most likely this is the case, as we all know that Broner doesn't have the hype anymore and obviously his opponent? We don't know him really. So it's a good move for the promoters, or maybe it will be good if this could be in some undercard, so that there will be exposure.

But in any case that the promoters are going to make this a stand alone fight, might be difficult to make money. Unless they really low ball both of this fighters to accept the fight with small money.

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Quote from: Text on October 16, 2023, 08:01:27 AM

There’s been a change in the schedule. The fight between Adrien Broner and Chris Howard, which was originally set for November 4th, has been moved to December 2nd. This fight is scheduled for 10 rounds in the Welterweight division.

I think Broner's ranking at 15 in the Welterweight division under WBC shows that he still has potential.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-pushed-back-december-2--178511

There's only one reason why this fight was moved if I may speculate. I'm sure the promoters weren't able to meet his expectations in terms of ticket sales and anything else related to the fight's revenue. This isn't a very popular fight, although I must say that Broner is quite popular, but it's not a championship fight, so it's not expected to generate a lot of money.

Regarding this kind of fight, I'm not sure if it will proceed since it has already been moved. Worse, it might even be canceled, as it hasn't gained much attention from boxing enthusiasts. This could put Broner's finances in jeopardy, especially if the rumors about him living paycheck to paycheck in boxing are true.

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Quote from: Text on October 16, 2023, 08:01:27 AM

There’s been a change in the schedule. The fight between Adrien Broner and Chris Howard, which was originally set for November 4th, has been moved to December 2nd. This fight is scheduled for 10 rounds in the Welterweight division.

I think Broner's ranking at 15 in the Welterweight division under WBC shows that he still has potential.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-pushed-back-december-2--178511

All I know is the top 10 in the ranking are the ones who have the potential for a title match but 11 below is not attractive anymore they are cherry-picked fighters or warm-up opponents for champions, Adrien's performance is slipping, and his last recent fights are an indication that he just here for the money and there's no steam left for him for another run for the title.

He is one or two losses away from retirement and it may not come from top Welterweight fighters, because honestly, I don't think he can beat the likes of Ennis or Spence, he is definitely out of the radar for a world title match.

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There’s been a change in the schedule. The fight between Adrien Broner and Chris Howard, which was originally set for November 4th, has been moved to December 2nd. This fight is scheduled for 10 rounds in the Welterweight division.

I think Broner's ranking at 15 in the Welterweight division under WBC shows that he still has potential.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-pushed-back-december-2--178511

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Quote from: Jating on October 16, 2023, 05:20:03 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 11, 2023, 12:24:26 AM

Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

Yes, he might really be in need of money right now, because he keeps on fighting bums and he is no longer close to that supposedly, "About Billions" persona of him. Specially when he was still very close to Floyd. I didn't know that he sign up with Don King though, but yeah in any case we all know how shady Don King is. But perhaps AB has no other options.

Maybe he is just getting chump change right now but he needs to survived and get that paycheck after paycheck. But I doubt that even if he won by a knockout or something spectacular, his name will be up for the championship belt again. He is old and way beyond his prime now.

Given his poor ranking, it would be hard for him to climb the ladder and become a mandatory challenger. I won't touch on his age, as that would be disrespectful; the fact that he is still fighting means he is still capable. However, I agree with you that age could be a factor, but, like I said, I won't judge him based on his age; I would only assess based on the outcome of the fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 11, 2023, 12:24:26 AM

Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

Yes, he might really be in need of money right now, because he keeps on fighting bums and he is no longer close to that supposedly, "About Billions" persona of him. Specially when he was still very close to Floyd. I didn't know that he sign up with Don King though, but yeah in any case we all know how shady Don King is. But perhaps AB has no other options.

Maybe he is just getting chump change right now but he needs to survived and get that paycheck after paycheck. But I doubt that even if he won by a knockout or something spectacular, his name will be up for the championship belt again. He is old and way beyond his prime now.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 11, 2023, 12:24:26 AM

Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

He bounced back with two wins after his defeat against Pacman, so it seems safe to assume that any mental issues he had are in the past or under control. This may not be a championship fight, but I'm sure there's still plenty of interest in watching it. Some might be tuning in just to see how Broner ends his career, hehe.

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Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 10, 2023, 11:46:13 AM

It's really hard to retire a boxer his mind tells him to continue even if the body is not responsive anymore, Broner doesn't have it anymore based on his last two fights although convincing, he's not the same Broner anymore.

He will finally realize it is time for him to hang up his gloves if one highly-rated boxer knocks him out, he will cherry-pick fighters so he can earn a reputation for fighting fighters who are in the top 10, his goal is to make more money so he can retire and he needs one big money maker to fight and unfortunately, he will get a full beating if that fight happens.

Yes, sooner or later he will have to retire from boxing. But if he keeps winning then he will have this illusion that he can continue to fight and won belt and obviously chase for more money.

But we have seen that he is no longer in his prime and just fighting low rated fighter just to stay above the division. But if he losses this one, he will be done and I doubt that any promoter will give him a chance. Unless he is willing to be the stepping stone of a upcoming fighter. Meaning he is willing to have a huge pay cut and is there to absorb and not to win. And I don't know if boxing fans are excited to see him in the ring with some unknown boxer.

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It's really hard to retire a boxer his mind tells him to continue even if the body is not responsive anymore, Broner doesn't have it anymore based on his last two fights although convincing, he's not the same Broner anymore.

He will finally realize it is time for him to hang up his gloves if one highly-rated boxer knocks him out, he will cherry-pick fighters so he can earn a reputation for fighting fighters who are in the top 10, his goal is to make more money so he can retire and he needs one big money maker to fight and unfortunately, he will get a full beating if that fight happens.

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I want to see how Broner promotes this fight because he is good at that especially when he talks to his opponents just to hype their upcoming fight. this would be a nice match-up for him since Howard is not as strong as his last opponents who completely beat him. He just needs to support those trash talks with some good skills and speed to not be humbled again by his opponent and not to shut down any opportunity for his comeback because it would be hard for him to do so once he loses this opportunity once again.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 10, 2023, 09:51:12 AM

I don't like his antics during fight promotions but I cannot deny the fact that he is still capable. He's fighting someone his age and not some young dude who has immense potential. Probably just another handpicked match to boost up his record and maybe title run. I cannot find an open line from major crypto sportsbook yet. I'm hoping Broner is the underdog in this fight so I could bet more hehe.

Looking at Broner's record, he actually fought this year last June against Bill Hutchinson to which Broner defeated this guy by UD. Broner seems to be active after all, but just very stealthy I guess he lost his fans that's why even the media is not covering him. Arum still wants to extend Broner's career so they pick the ones that he can just crush.

Adrien's latest stunt was this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vmAAQaG8xtY accusing McDonald's staff spitting on his food. Grin

I read Chris Howard was his sparring partner years ago. I guess they wanna make it right this time where Chris can finally hit back and put it on record.

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I don't like his antics during fight promotions but I cannot deny the fact that he is still capable. He's fighting someone his age and not some young dude who has immense potential. Probably just another handpicked match to boost up his record and maybe title run. I cannot find an open line from major crypto sportsbook yet. I'm hoping Broner is the underdog in this fight so I could bet more hehe.

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Adrien Broner's career and skill are going down his last two fights come from two unpopular fighters he is slow he is just a shadow of his former self when lording in the welterweight division, I don't think he can fight top-level fighters like Spence he is just here for the money, he should have retired after the Pacquaio fight I don't think he can get his old glory back it's only a matter of time before someone knocks him out to retirement and it could be Chris Howard but I doubt, Howard is another cherry-picked fight based on his record.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 09, 2023, 10:41:50 PM

Looks like Adrien Broner is making a comeback! I honestly thought his career was done after that Pacman fight, but I did some digging into his boxing record, and he's got two consecutive wins via unanimous decisions against Jovanie Santiago and Bill Hutchinson. Now, it's not a championship fight, but I couldn't help myself from starting this thread. I find Adrien Broner to be a really interesting boxer, and the way I see it, he might just be gearing up for another shot at a championship bout in the future.

Adrien Broner's boxing career is done, at least for me. The guy lacks the discipline of a true champion, though he won against Santiago and Hutchinson but that were not an impressive wins and i would not be surprised that after this fight, he will retire hehe.

About getting a title fight in the future, that's a slim possibility as he is not a crowd drawer for now.

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Looks like Adrien Broner is making a comeback! I honestly thought his career was done after that Pacman fight,

Yeah I also thought Broner is done In boxing as there are no Big news about
His career from losing against Manny Pacquiao .
but like you shared that he had 2 wins recently before this fight? maybe He wanted to prove many people that he is still in ring , though very far from making to fought against Bigger names such as Inoue .
and also with this qualities

rating
#555 / 2,096
#110 / 389
bouts   21
rounds   105
KOs   44.44%
career   2007-2023
debut   2007-08-03

Source ; https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/419402

I think this is not enough to beat Broner this fight

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Quote from: bittraffic on October 10, 2023, 01:10:54 AM

Pacman didn't do much damage to him but Maidana humiliate Broner more which I thought he'd actually stop fighting after that fight. Broner considerably has a good record though despite his showboating that end up badly.

But he still lost to Manny and then during post interview, he thought he won, Lol,. Pacman didn't do much damage because Broner doesn't want to fight but just survived the whole 12 rounds. Against Maidana, he was the big favorite, and I guess if you are really too arrogant sometimes karma will get the best out of you and that's what happen to him.

Quote from: bittraffic on October 10, 2023, 01:10:54 AM

He is fighting an unknown boxer. I tried watching Chris on youtube he seem a slugger. A perect pair for Broner.

Most likely another tailor fight as what we say, so that his best qualities are going to be shown here. Like counter punching and his defense and Philly shell stance that all they learn from the legendary Floyd Mayweather. Perhaps this could be a 12 round decision win for Maidana but I don't think it will be enough for him to go up in the rankings and fight the champion.

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