Topic: Boycott of Chinese products and economic relations - when ? - page 2. (Read 753 times)

It is difficult, but it is not impossible.
The main reason why companies from all around the world like to do business in China is because the hugs capability China has to manufacture all they need and at very cheap prices, so companies can increase the profit margins, it would take a new competing market for companies to fin a new place to move their facilities to. Not long ago I read about India as one of those countries which a good chance to start competing in China in that matter, but I am not sure how much it could be an actual possibility, since both countries are active members of the BRICS and those inner disagreements and competitions could come in detriment of the relations those countries have with each other.

The approach Donald Trump took was to try to brings those companies and facilities back to the United States, but there is always the disadvantage of the prices for the final consumer in that kind of choice.
In short, it is possible but it would take a geo economical reorganization for several years.

There is another problem here. In fact, the world has driven itself into a trap by engaging in self-hypnosis that if you really want to, you can build strong relationships with dubious regimes.
Over the past few years, we have seen the “results” of these “games” very well. For example, the monopolization of the EU energy sector (oil and gas) almost killed the industry of Germany and other countries. Why? Because they allowed themselves to be completely dependent on the regime, to whose antics they turned a blind eye since 2000.
It’s the same with China - in China they built a “world factory for the production of everything”, stopped supporting local economies and... now there is dependence on Chinese consumer goods! And the longer the resolution of this issue is postponed, the harder it will be for countries dependent on the “Chinese factory.” And China will do everything - from bribing authorities to terror, just so that the flow of its exports will dry up. Without exports, China simply degrades in a short period of time...

I don't think this will happen soon. And I don't think it is easy to avoid trades or products from China. As a joke would have it, god created the world and everything else is made in China.

I am a citizen of a country that is also at the receiving end of the red country's bullying. There are certain calls for boycotting of products imported from China, but as much as I wanted to participate in it, it simply isn't possible. You only have to look around in your house to realize that everything came from that country. Even inside your fridge, fruits and fish and other food are from China.

The top trading partner of Saudi Arabia is China. US only comes second and it only supplies half of what China is providing to the top Arab country. Further, the entire 21 MENA (Middle East and North Africa) countries have China as their top trading partner.

It's hard to imagine that there will be boycotting of products from China, too many companies, tech and not are relying on their cheap labor and manufacturing there and not just that, their actual products are cheaper than the rest. It's going to take time until a strong nation will declare that they're wholly boycotting everything from China. Right now, they're showing that they're showing through bullying the others and as well as providing debt trap to smaller and developing countries and with their scattered devices and products that can locate people on each country, it's just so hard to stop them with that.

That's it ! And in fact, everyone, everyone “worried about suffering Muslims,” doesn’t care about the fact that China persecutes Muslims, violates their rights... “Money doesn’t smell”, and how sad it is - but behind all these “boycotts” there are very specific people who resolve their financial or political issues. And those for whom they supposedly “care” are simply a tool for achieving selfish goals...

Maybe not completely, as you can see there are still people like the OP who are concerned of it and might have done boycotting China for real. It's just their numbers were maybe low and that makes you think the topic is ignored for a very long time now. Apart from lacking of knowledge another reason on why some ignores it is because they find it uninteresting or nonsense because they are still benefiting continuously on Chinese products.

Amazon must be a U.S based store, so I'm kinda surprised if most of its items are Chinese products but how much more those stores like Alibaba and the likes where origin is from Asia? Resellers can increase their price because there are still shipping and other fees but some listings can still be cheaper than the other. We only need to keep on looking.

To all those who have expressed their opinions - thank you very much !
But as I suspected, the so-called "boycott of Israeli products" is not really related to the reaction of the Muslim world, but has a targeted idea, only against one state. Those calling for a boycott of Israeli products don't really care about their brothers in faith, they just need an excuse to launch another hysteria. This is a call against Israel, not for the rights of Muslims and their treatment in different countries.... Pretty much as I suspected.

China is too big to get affected and they make every move tactically not just due to a burst out of anger and I don't know what kind of machineries are needed for them but as far as I know they are capable of building anything and do that is short time as well so if any country avoid trades with China may face the results over time.

That's not gonna happen and what Chinese government is doing to Uygur Muslims is worst than the plight of Palestinians and the Palestinian's issue is raised due to the significance of holy mosques of Al Aqsa and the Islamic past associated with this holy land wherein muslim leaders don't have balls to stand up to china and they cannot survive without Chinese products hence no way they can boycott Chinese products.

OP, this topic has been ignored for many decades because of lack of knowledge. It's too hard to boycott China these days because we rarely have alternatives of products that are massively produced by China. Boycott will only work if western companies move factories in other countries and things won't be totally centralized in China.

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Amazon is so full of Chinese products because too many people do dropshipping and too many chinese products are extremely cheap. They buy things from aliexpress in bulk quantity, then ship them in Amazon warehouse or in their own warehouse and then the product that wrths $1, is sold at $15 on Amazon.com. You can't imagine how much money you might pay for something that actually worth some bucks. If you found something beautiful on amazon, you better look for it on aliexpress and buy yourself from China.

The boycott session was only for a moment, even though it happened,  in my opinion, because if people are comfortable with the products they use, they will definitely come back. For example, yesterday we called for a boycott of products that support Israel, in fact now people have returned to using these products.

I'm more or less apolitical and don't really keep up on world affairs (I don't even pay attention to local affairs, so that should tell you something about my apathy), so I'm ignorant about what you're referring to regarding Muslims and China.  I am curious, though.  Not trying to come off as lazy, but I don't trust search engines to give relevant results anymore--do you happen to have any links that might educate me?

But this is about a boycott on China, right?  That I do have an opinion on; Muslims in certain countries might be able to do that easily enough--and personally I'd love to do a one-man China boycott myself--but when I look at 80-90% of products available on Amazon, what I see are cheap Chinese imitations of better-made stuff, which you can usually identify pretty easily by their bizarre brand names like KAIWEETS, BOENFU, SPEEDWOX, COOFANDY, etc.  Chinese knockoffs have started dominating every single category of items on Amazon that shopping there has just turned into a frustrating, hit-or-miss experience.  And that's just one website; shit from China is ubiquitous, so it's really, really hard to carry out a boycott on a country whose primary export seems to be low-cost lookalike goods sold in every imaginable place.

Totally agree, the best thing isn't to boycott them by not buying because as you've said, their products are too numerous to be avoided, the best thing actually and proven to be effective is that to limit or boycott through not selling to them machineries that's needed to build the products, maybe even the pivotal piece in a machinery or even the technology altogether, China is trying get the technology to create the transistors that US and Taiwan have and they're so bent on trying to get that that Taiwan is allegedly having a plan to destroy the main chip factory in case of an invasion by China.

I will be honest. I was not completely aware of the abuse the Muslim people were suffering by the government of China, I knew they were specially brutal against the monks from Tibet and those who claimed for the emancipation of the territory, but this is news to me.
Anyways, I am a person who believes in boycott as a tool to peacefully protest the injustice of big players like China, and applying a boycott in these times when their economy is losing steam could indeed send a powerful statement in the name of the Muslim people around the world.

However, one should not underestimate the important of China in the manufacturing market, many things we use and purchase in our cotidianity are made there and before applying a boycott that is supposed to be kept in mind by the leaders of the Arab World. It would be more organic, if there was people of those countries who decided to boycott by their own those products, by the way, with our direct political intervention of the state, if Chinese products start to sell way less in the Arab World and the government of those countries did not issue a political reason for the people to protest in that way, then the Arabic World Leaders could easily tell it is a matter of offer and demand (the free market) and hence the importations from China will be cut.

There is a way to have your cake and eat it too, to keep good enough relations with China and still boycott, but commitment from people of those countries is needed if they want to support their foreign brothers and sisters of faith.

Just my opinion. 🙃

I don't believe in boycotts. When the government announces a boycott, a dark marketplace is always created that increases the prices of the boycotted product. To be fair, I don't understand how someone can boycott Chinese products when China produces almost everything for the world. Smartphones are a basic example, is there any country where good smartphones, like Apple's iPhone, Samsung, Sony, Xiaomi and etc, all are made in China. They can't say no to these smartphones because they don't have a good alternative.
I don't say that price will be the problem, Arab world is super rich and can pay millions of dollars for nothing but simply, the alternative doesn't exist that changes products that are made in China. They can probably buy TVs that are made in Taiwan and that's all.

not sure why you are referencing the video, to then get triggered..
the video is saying what america, europe say:
"if you come to US/EU(or china) learn the language, learn the laws and culture and learn a skill to work"
"if you come with a radical mindset trying to change/affect others to cause harm or make them mentally ill too, expect consequences"
basically if your a radical, expect radical consequence

I don't think China has ever done anything nearly similar as what Israel is currently doing to any countries, but besides all that politic. I think it's easy to boycott Israel products or products that is supporting Israel because there isn't many products in that category compared to product that is related to Chinese. And the products that is related to Israel is a tertiary product that has many cheaper alternative with similar or even better quality. While with Chinese product, there are millions or even billions of product that is definitely a Chinese brand or related to Chinese, and they have an good price with fairly okay quality, it's hard to find the alternative especially for people in the 3rd world country with less money.

I am assuming that while "west" relies on China as essential part of supply line, they have been at least considering diversifying their sources for a while now. When China has a power to hurt the global supply line, it has an upper hand in many ways. But while china is a cheap source, it's not irreplaceable as a source. While boycott would have devastating effects, and prices would surely rise for a moment and there would be panic of shortage of some supplies... Even then, it wouldn't last forever, and eventually that production of several key parts would be done locally or elsewhere, plus it could also create jobs and spark the economy when all that money wouldn't be flowing elsewhere.

I am all for the idea of global trade, as it's benefiting everyone, and can even keep the peace, when nations need each other, but it's very essential to keep these participating regions stable. And that's hard to do. When labeling factory for certain medicine boxes exist in a volatile and fragile region, and that factory happens to burn. It stops the whole supply line and causes a shortage in that medication. Imagine more of these happening to basic services everywhere. This is one of the reasons we like to help different regions to be stable. We are not helping them just because goodness of our hearts.

Moving production of all the parts for local production might secure the supply line, but that isn't cheap and requires ton of new expensive experts from different fields. So i am glad i am not making decisions on this, as global trade economics are complex as hell, but boycotting might be only way to force nations to care about human rights for example.

You can't boycott Chinese products, bro, because now it has become known in every country of the world, Chinese products are abundant.  Candidates in your product are all made by Chinese, a product bought by a Chinese person has spread meaning all over the world.  And besides, almost every line in the middle of the world or our Bangladesh vs. Bangladesh is percent product Chinese.  Moreover, Chinese production you can use anything. Currently everything from medical sector to education is controlled by Chinese products.  Now many big projects are real by the Chinese in Bangladesh.

I don't think it is even possible to avoid anything that originates from China for any country in the world because they are the manufacturers of everything and they prepared the infrastructure for decades to be that level. China is not having McDonald's or Star Bucks that everyone can afford to boycott and continue running their daily life with no effect but its not the same with Chinese products.