Topic: Boycott of Chinese products and economic relations - when ? - page 2. (Read 534 times)

China is too big to get affected and they make every move tactically not just due to a burst out of anger and I don't know what kind of machineries are needed for them but as far as I know they are capable of building anything and do that is short time as well so if any country avoid trades with China may face the results over time.

That's not gonna happen and what Chinese government is doing to Uygur Muslims is worst than the plight of Palestinians and the Palestinian's issue is raised due to the significance of holy mosques of Al Aqsa and the Islamic past associated with this holy land wherein muslim leaders don't have balls to stand up to china and they cannot survive without Chinese products hence no way they can boycott Chinese products.

OP, this topic has been ignored for many decades because of lack of knowledge. It's too hard to boycott China these days because we rarely have alternatives of products that are massively produced by China. Boycott will only work if western companies move factories in other countries and things won't be totally centralized in China.

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Amazon is so full of Chinese products because too many people do dropshipping and too many chinese products are extremely cheap. They buy things from aliexpress in bulk quantity, then ship them in Amazon warehouse or in their own warehouse and then the product that wrths $1, is sold at $15 on Amazon.com. You can't imagine how much money you might pay for something that actually worth some bucks. If you found something beautiful on amazon, you better look for it on aliexpress and buy yourself from China.

The boycott session was only for a moment, even though it happened,  in my opinion, because if people are comfortable with the products they use, they will definitely come back. For example, yesterday we called for a boycott of products that support Israel, in fact now people have returned to using these products.

I'm more or less apolitical and don't really keep up on world affairs (I don't even pay attention to local affairs, so that should tell you something about my apathy), so I'm ignorant about what you're referring to regarding Muslims and China.  I am curious, though.  Not trying to come off as lazy, but I don't trust search engines to give relevant results anymore--do you happen to have any links that might educate me?

But this is about a boycott on China, right?  That I do have an opinion on; Muslims in certain countries might be able to do that easily enough--and personally I'd love to do a one-man China boycott myself--but when I look at 80-90% of products available on Amazon, what I see are cheap Chinese imitations of better-made stuff, which you can usually identify pretty easily by their bizarre brand names like KAIWEETS, BOENFU, SPEEDWOX, COOFANDY, etc.  Chinese knockoffs have started dominating every single category of items on Amazon that shopping there has just turned into a frustrating, hit-or-miss experience.  And that's just one website; shit from China is ubiquitous, so it's really, really hard to carry out a boycott on a country whose primary export seems to be low-cost lookalike goods sold in every imaginable place.

Totally agree, the best thing isn't to boycott them by not buying because as you've said, their products are too numerous to be avoided, the best thing actually and proven to be effective is that to limit or boycott through not selling to them machineries that's needed to build the products, maybe even the pivotal piece in a machinery or even the technology altogether, China is trying get the technology to create the transistors that US and Taiwan have and they're so bent on trying to get that that Taiwan is allegedly having a plan to destroy the main chip factory in case of an invasion by China.

I will be honest. I was not completely aware of the abuse the Muslim people were suffering by the government of China, I knew they were specially brutal against the monks from Tibet and those who claimed for the emancipation of the territory, but this is news to me.
Anyways, I am a person who believes in boycott as a tool to peacefully protest the injustice of big players like China, and applying a boycott in these times when their economy is losing steam could indeed send a powerful statement in the name of the Muslim people around the world.

However, one should not underestimate the important of China in the manufacturing market, many things we use and purchase in our cotidianity are made there and before applying a boycott that is supposed to be kept in mind by the leaders of the Arab World. It would be more organic, if there was people of those countries who decided to boycott by their own those products, by the way, with our direct political intervention of the state, if Chinese products start to sell way less in the Arab World and the government of those countries did not issue a political reason for the people to protest in that way, then the Arabic World Leaders could easily tell it is a matter of offer and demand (the free market) and hence the importations from China will be cut.

There is a way to have your cake and eat it too, to keep good enough relations with China and still boycott, but commitment from people of those countries is needed if they want to support their foreign brothers and sisters of faith.

Just my opinion. 🙃

I don't believe in boycotts. When the government announces a boycott, a dark marketplace is always created that increases the prices of the boycotted product. To be fair, I don't understand how someone can boycott Chinese products when China produces almost everything for the world. Smartphones are a basic example, is there any country where good smartphones, like Apple's iPhone, Samsung, Sony, Xiaomi and etc, all are made in China. They can't say no to these smartphones because they don't have a good alternative.
I don't say that price will be the problem, Arab world is super rich and can pay millions of dollars for nothing but simply, the alternative doesn't exist that changes products that are made in China. They can probably buy TVs that are made in Taiwan and that's all.

not sure why you are referencing the video, to then get triggered..
the video is saying what america, europe say:
"if you come to US/EU(or china) learn the language, learn the laws and culture and learn a skill to work"
"if you come with a radical mindset trying to change/affect others to cause harm or make them mentally ill too, expect consequences"
basically if your a radical, expect radical consequence

I don't think China has ever done anything nearly similar as what Israel is currently doing to any countries, but besides all that politic. I think it's easy to boycott Israel products or products that is supporting Israel because there isn't many products in that category compared to product that is related to Chinese. And the products that is related to Israel is a tertiary product that has many cheaper alternative with similar or even better quality. While with Chinese product, there are millions or even billions of product that is definitely a Chinese brand or related to Chinese, and they have an good price with fairly okay quality, it's hard to find the alternative especially for people in the 3rd world country with less money.

I am assuming that while "west" relies on China as essential part of supply line, they have been at least considering diversifying their sources for a while now. When China has a power to hurt the global supply line, it has an upper hand in many ways. But while china is a cheap source, it's not irreplaceable as a source. While boycott would have devastating effects, and prices would surely rise for a moment and there would be panic of shortage of some supplies... Even then, it wouldn't last forever, and eventually that production of several key parts would be done locally or elsewhere, plus it could also create jobs and spark the economy when all that money wouldn't be flowing elsewhere.

I am all for the idea of global trade, as it's benefiting everyone, and can even keep the peace, when nations need each other, but it's very essential to keep these participating regions stable. And that's hard to do. When labeling factory for certain medicine boxes exist in a volatile and fragile region, and that factory happens to burn. It stops the whole supply line and causes a shortage in that medication. Imagine more of these happening to basic services everywhere. This is one of the reasons we like to help different regions to be stable. We are not helping them just because goodness of our hearts.

Moving production of all the parts for local production might secure the supply line, but that isn't cheap and requires ton of new expensive experts from different fields. So i am glad i am not making decisions on this, as global trade economics are complex as hell, but boycotting might be only way to force nations to care about human rights for example.

You can't boycott Chinese products, bro, because now it has become known in every country of the world, Chinese products are abundant.  Candidates in your product are all made by Chinese, a product bought by a Chinese person has spread meaning all over the world.  And besides, almost every line in the middle of the world or our Bangladesh vs. Bangladesh is percent product Chinese.  Moreover, Chinese production you can use anything. Currently everything from medical sector to education is controlled by Chinese products.  Now many big projects are real by the Chinese in Bangladesh.

I don't think it is even possible to avoid anything that originates from China for any country in the world because they are the manufacturers of everything and they prepared the infrastructure for decades to be that level. China is not having McDonald's or Star Bucks that everyone can afford to boycott and continue running their daily life with no effect but its not the same with Chinese products.

It seems this issue is going a bit too far, I understand what you mentioned and actually I feel the injustice of the government's repression of the people, but any national government exists support/opposition issues. And the boycott of China, I think will belong to the opposing factions who do not like China is expansion and development, but cannot deny the impact on the economy in general.

I don't hate them and don't want to boycott them, even though I live quite close to this country and have also spent time living like a native in China, I simply cannot please them all crowd. In recent years, I have seen quite a lot of conflicts with China, but as a strategy, the country I live in also has a policy of economic linkage with China as well as being quite open with them.

Looking at the Arab issue, I do not understand exactly whether it is all of it or just some groups of people protesting and directing information, as I have expressed the existence of both support/opposition.

News about a potential boycott or urging a boycott of Chinese products by the Muslim world has been a recurrent discussion for many years now and springs up at different times for different reasons.

I personally do not think a full boycott sponsored by the state leaders us possible. Trade goes both ways; if a nation is heavily dependent on demand from a certain community, then that community is also heavily dependent on their supply. The process of switching suppliers for products at the quantity and price that is currently available is not an easy one at all.

Is this according to you "China is just calling extremists sick" !?!?

The Uyghur genocide (Uyg. ئۇيغۇر قىرغىنچىلىقى) is a series of human rights violations carried out by the Chinese government against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region. These actions have been characterized as forced assimilation of Xinjiang and ethnocide or cultural genocide.
Since 2014, the Chinese government has implemented a policy that has resulted in the summary imprisonment of more than one million Chinese Muslims (most of them Uyghurs) in so-called "re-education camps" without trial. This is the largest mass incarceration of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II.
Thousands of mosques have been destroyed or damaged, and hundreds of thousands of children have been forcibly separated from their parents and sent to boarding schools. Anti-Uyghur measures also include forced labor, suppression of traditional religious practices, ideological treatment, abuse, forced sterilization and contraception, and forced abortions.

According to Chinese government statistics, the birth rate in the predominantly Uighur regions of Hotan and Kashgar fell by more than 60 percent between 2015 and 2018. Over the same period, the birth rate in the country as a whole fell by 9.69%. Chinese authorities acknowledged that Xinjiang's birth rate fell by nearly a third in 2018, but denied reports of forced sterilization and genocide. In 2019, Xinjiang's birth rate fell another 24% with a nationwide decline of 4.2%.

There could be smaller protest but I don't think there would be a large scale boycott or something about this.
Unlike the Israeli and the US who kidnaps and kills just because of being muslim, China is just calling the extremist sick.
There are studies that shown a decrease in domestic violence, crimes in general and number of child marriage and an increase in average income and prosperity of Ughyurs after the re-education and vocational trainings.
Muslims in China unlike the what western propaganda preaches has the freedom to go to the mosque and follow their religion.

It is quite difficult to boycott Chinese products, even though in terms of product quality, the products produced by this bamboo curtain country are considered very low when compared to products produced in the west. However, when talking about product prices, China offers very cheap prices, so this becomes an attraction for a country or society to continue using products produced by China. And quite a few countries in the Middle East are very dependent on China for the global supply chain. And when a country in the Middle East starts a trade war with China, this will not only have an impact on the Chinese economy, but the domestic economy will also be affected. China has succeeded in exerting its influence on a number of countries in the Middle East, so perhaps an Arab country will think twice about boycotting Chinese products.

China's economy is totally dependent on their exports. The countries that China exports the most products to are Middle Eastern countries and Arab countries. If for some reason Arab countries start boycotting Chinese products and stop import and export relations with China, China's economy will be in serious trouble. Many Chinese workers work in the Middle East countries and many multinational companies do business in these countries. If diplomatic relations deteriorate, Chinese workers will stop working and multinational companies that were working in these countries will also have to leave. Now it is to be seen how long the Arab countries will continue their boycott campaign.

1. I do not think this is possible given China’s dominance of the global economy in various sectors. There are vital sectors that China monopolizes, making it difficult to boycott them or even enter into a confrontation with them.
2. This topic is being ignored for the same reasons I mentioned in answer to the first question. If it is possible to study the possibility of boycotting China for the reasons you mentioned, then many other countries should be boycotted for the same reasons as the United States.
3. This will certainly have a negative impact on the Chinese economy, but I believe that the impact will be more negative for those countries that will not easily find someone to compensate them for Chinese products in terms of price and quality.
4. It can be said that the position of the Arab countries in the global economy is imbalanced because the Chinese economy is superior to all of them combined. Of all the Arab countries that have economic relations (trade exchanges, investment...) there are only two or three countries with a strong economy. In any case, they cannot confront China.