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The justification of the first four was that:

"The first four encouraged campaigns in favor of flood victims in the South, but had spoken out for leaders who thought they could help more with the continuation of the Brasileirão"

It's incredible to see that the teams with the biggest fans are going against it. This could end up very bad in the future, especially related to sponsorship and cancellation on social media.

It's such a complicated situation that it's hard to imagine for those of us who aren't there
In addition to the players, you have to consider all the workers who are involved with the clubs, such as the coaching staff, medical department, physiotherapists, staff, etc., who, in addition to themselves, also have to worry about family members and friends who may be in risky situations

They don't seem to have realized the seriousness of the situation enough to say that they are against the stoppage

It's very easy for players and club presidents who earn high salaries to travel and leave RS if necessary, but we have to think about all the people who make up the clubs and provide the conditions for playing soccer.



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These were really big losses for the sport. I am saddened by the great loss in the narration of Silvio Luiz, an incomparable person.

Regarding the championship stoppage, from what I saw there were three or four teams that were opposed, the vast majority were in favor. It is important to see who is opposing it and the reasons too...

Which teams opposed the postponement of matches?  Shocked

According to this article they were:

Corinthians
Flamengo
Palmeiras
São Paulo
Red Bull Bragantino.

The justification of the first four was that:

"The first four encouraged campaigns in favor of flood victims in the South, but had spoken out for leaders who thought they could help more with the continuation of the Brasileirão"

It's incredible to see that the teams with the biggest fans are going against it. This could end up very bad in the future, especially related to sponsorship and cancellation on social media.
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And apparently, the Brazilian championship will be stopped for two rounds, what did you think of that?

I think this was the right decision, but it should have come much earlier.
The whole of Brazil is already mobilized to help or at least show solidarity with the catastrophe in Rio Grande do Sul, its regrettable that CBF took so long to understand that in fact football is the least of the priorities at this moment and that the lack of teams from Rio Grande do Sul has an impact on the entire championship, not just on the teams that were "directly affected".

The saddest thing about all this is the mocking words that CBF representatives used at the meeting to comment on the situation... If it was just physical damage to the structure of a club, that would be fine... but we are talking about thousands of families who lose everything and some hundreds who lost their lives.
I feel ashamed that we have people like this as representatives of the highest entity in Brazilian football

The CBF has always been an entity that hindered more than it helped, it is no wonder that its former presidents went to jail or faced several legal proceedings.

The way they speak, there really is no empathy at all, perhaps they only made this decision to postpone due to external pressure from society and clubs... We have to think that in addition to the players, there are family members, friends, acquaintances, employees. . a lot of people linked to the teams directly and indirectly... The psychological shock is very strong, after all, it was one of the biggest tragedies in the history of Brazil.

These were really big losses for the sport. I am saddened by the great loss in the narration of Silvio Luiz, an incomparable person.

Regarding the championship stoppage, from what I saw there were three or four teams that were opposed, the vast majority were in favor. It is important to see who is opposing it and the reasons too...

Which teams opposed the postponement of matches?  Shocked
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These were really big losses for the sport. I am saddened by the great loss in the narration of Silvio Luiz, an incomparable person.

Regarding the championship stoppage, from what I saw there were three or four teams that were opposed, the vast majority were in favor. It is important to see who is opposing it and the reasons too...
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And apparently, the Brazilian championship will be stopped for two rounds, what did you think of that?

I think this was the right decision, but it should have come much earlier.
The whole of Brazil is already mobilized to help or at least show solidarity with the catastrophe in Rio Grande do Sul, its regrettable that CBF took so long to understand that in fact football is the least of the priorities at this moment and that the lack of teams from Rio Grande do Sul has an impact on the entire championship, not just on the teams that were "directly affected".

The saddest thing about all this is the mocking words that CBF representatives used at the meeting to comment on the situation... If it was just physical damage to the structure of a club, that would be fine... but we are talking about thousands of families who lose everything and some hundreds who lost their lives.
I feel ashamed that we have people like this as representatives of the highest entity in Brazilian football
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Speaking of sad things, today is a day of mourning for all football fans in Brazil, unfortunately we lost 3 people who were icons in their roles:

Silvio Luiz - legendary narrator
Antero Greco - sports presenter for ESPN channels
Washington Rodrigues (aka Apolinho) – radio host and sports journalist

I grew up watching games with Silvio Luiz, I watched the SportCenter program a lot with Antero... and Apolinho was also very good, creator of the famous catchphrases: "chocolate", "dick in the trash" and many others...


 Cry Cry Cry
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And apparently, the Brazilian championship will be stopped for two rounds, what did you think of that?

Yes, that's right, the news is official
link HERE
Although it's a stoppage, in my opinion it's a quick one, because 2 rounds is the same as only 1 week, I don't know if 1 week is enough for the RS teams to adapt to the new situation, there's a lot of things to do

The other competitions continue as normal, such as the Copa do Brasil, Sudamericana and Libertadores
Remembering that in a few weeks' time the Copa America will start and supposedly there will be a stoppage of soccer, let's see how things unfold, but I think the stoppage is valid, after all these are people who have been affected and the situation is too sad
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The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  Cool

Rumors are already circulating about goalkeeper Cassio going to Cruzeiro on a three-year contract
It could be true and even though I support Corinthians, I think it could benefit everyone, because it's about time Corinthians had a new goalkeeper with longevity in mind and Carlos Miguel is waiting for his chance, and if it's not now, the goalkeeper could become dissatisfied and even leave the club to be a starter elsewhere. So the time is now

About Palmeiras losing the points I liked it too haha, I watched a bit of the Athletico PR match and the team is very good for this season, if it continues like this it could be a good candidate to be among the first, so far, Bahia and Athletico PR have surprised me the most



I believe Cassio will come out soon. However, with Tite being increasingly tipped to leave Flamengo, I believe it would be a good idea to wait and see Tite's hype again at Corinthians. If he returns, I believe he will renew the team's energy even in defeat.


It seems like things are all falling into place, Tite leaving Flamengo, Jorge Jesus leaving Al-Hilal... Anyway, I really wanted this to happen, I can't stand being embarrassed anymore supporting Flamengo... the bullying against us is heavy lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


And the good thing about this is that everyone wins, at least now. Jorge leaves as a champion in Arabia and arrives at Flamengo with a huge salary and Corinthians will have their beloved coach back. If they don't perform as expected, that's another matter.

Apparently Tite is still going on, this soap opera will drag on until the middle of the year when Jorge Jesus' contract ends, the truth is that he should never have left Flamengo, he was happy in the team and the team was happy with him. It was a wrong choice in my opinion.

And apparently, the Brazilian championship will be stopped for two rounds, what did you think of that?
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The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  Cool

Rumors are already circulating about goalkeeper Cassio going to Cruzeiro on a three-year contract
It could be true and even though I support Corinthians, I think it could benefit everyone, because it's about time Corinthians had a new goalkeeper with longevity in mind and Carlos Miguel is waiting for his chance, and if it's not now, the goalkeeper could become dissatisfied and even leave the club to be a starter elsewhere. So the time is now

About Palmeiras losing the points I liked it too haha, I watched a bit of the Athletico PR match and the team is very good for this season, if it continues like this it could be a good candidate to be among the first, so far, Bahia and Athletico PR have surprised me the most



I believe Cassio will come out soon. However, with Tite being increasingly tipped to leave Flamengo, I believe it would be a good idea to wait and see Tite's hype again at Corinthians. If he returns, I believe he will renew the team's energy even in defeat.


It seems like things are all falling into place, Tite leaving Flamengo, Jorge Jesus leaving Al-Hilal... Anyway, I really wanted this to happen, I can't stand being embarrassed anymore supporting Flamengo... the bullying against us is heavy lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


And the good thing about this is that everyone wins, at least now. Jorge leaves as a champion in Arabia and arrives at Flamengo with a huge salary and Corinthians will have their beloved coach back. If they don't perform as expected, that's another matter.
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This is the updated table after São Paulo's game yesterday:



The table is going to be very irregular because of the games of the RS teams.
There are teams that have already played 6 matches and there are teams that have played 3. It's going to be very difficult to analyze this season correctly.

For us bettors, it's also going to be very difficult to make a good profit, it's been 6 rounds and I still can't analyze properly to make good bets  Tongue



Has there been any news about the break in the Brazilian championship? I particularly hate it when just one team or the other has fewer rounds, everything gets so confusing...

And apparently Vasco da Gama will compete in the championship at the bottom of the table, there are teams that no longer have a solution, not even with money...
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This is the updated table after São Paulo's game yesterday:



The table is going to be very irregular because of the games of the RS teams.
There are teams that have already played 6 matches and there are teams that have played 3. It's going to be very difficult to analyze this season correctly.

For us bettors, it's also going to be very difficult to make a good profit, it's been 6 rounds and I still can't analyze properly to make good bets  Tongue

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The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  Cool

Rumors are already circulating about goalkeeper Cassio going to Cruzeiro on a three-year contract
It could be true and even though I support Corinthians, I think it could benefit everyone, because it's about time Corinthians had a new goalkeeper with longevity in mind and Carlos Miguel is waiting for his chance, and if it's not now, the goalkeeper could become dissatisfied and even leave the club to be a starter elsewhere. So the time is now

About Palmeiras losing the points I liked it too haha, I watched a bit of the Athletico PR match and the team is very good for this season, if it continues like this it could be a good candidate to be among the first, so far, Bahia and Athletico PR have surprised me the most



I believe Cassio will come out soon. However, with Tite being increasingly tipped to leave Flamengo, I believe it would be a good idea to wait and see Tite's hype again at Corinthians. If he returns, I believe he will renew the team's energy even in defeat.


It seems like things are all falling into place, Tite leaving Flamengo, Jorge Jesus leaving Al-Hilal... Anyway, I really wanted this to happen, I can't stand being embarrassed anymore supporting Flamengo... the bullying against us is heavy lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  Cool

Rumors are already circulating about goalkeeper Cassio going to Cruzeiro on a three-year contract
It could be true and even though I support Corinthians, I think it could benefit everyone, because it's about time Corinthians had a new goalkeeper with longevity in mind and Carlos Miguel is waiting for his chance, and if it's not now, the goalkeeper could become dissatisfied and even leave the club to be a starter elsewhere. So the time is now

About Palmeiras losing the points I liked it too haha, I watched a bit of the Athletico PR match and the team is very good for this season, if it continues like this it could be a good candidate to be among the first, so far, Bahia and Athletico PR have surprised me the most



I believe Cassio will come out soon. However, with Tite being increasingly tipped to leave Flamengo, I believe it would be a good idea to wait and see Tite's hype again at Corinthians. If he returns, I believe he will renew the team's energy even in defeat.
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The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  Cool

Rumors are already circulating about goalkeeper Cassio going to Cruzeiro on a three-year contract
It could be true and even though I support Corinthians, I think it could benefit everyone, because it's about time Corinthians had a new goalkeeper with longevity in mind and Carlos Miguel is waiting for his chance, and if it's not now, the goalkeeper could become dissatisfied and even leave the club to be a starter elsewhere. So the time is now

About Palmeiras losing the points I liked it too haha, I watched a bit of the Athletico PR match and the team is very good for this season, if it continues like this it could be a good candidate to be among the first, so far, Bahia and Athletico PR have surprised me the most



A 3-year contract for a 36-year-old player like Cassio is even interesting, especially since he is now on reserve, it would be interesting to breathe new air at another club.

I saw that Cruzeiro also tried to bring goalkeeper Fabio back, I I went to see his age and it was quite impressive, the goalkeeper is 43 years old and is the starting goalkeeper for the Fluminense team, he turned down Cruzeiro's offer because he was grateful to the team for renewing his contract until 2025...

I personally think that the Bahia team will be one of the good teams this year, they have good players, like Everton Ribeiro... Let's wait for the new chapters of the championship Cheesy
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Atletico 0 - 1 Cruzeiro

The results of yesterday's games didn't surprise me much. Cruzeiro who played against Atletico managed to win, but Cruzeiro's victory was an expected victory taking into account Atletico's poor performance in the last 4 games, Atletico in the last 4 games did not win in any game, they had 3 defeats and 1 draw and are in the relegation zone. while Cruzeiro's performance in the last 4 games was a stable performance, with 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat and occupying a good position in the table. That's why I'm not surprised by this cruise victory. now Atletico needs to worry about this:



although the league games are still in their infancy, I still think that Atletico should be very concerned about the position they occupy in the table, they still haven't had any victories since the league games started and we are talking about 5 games that have been played So far, being in the relegation zone in the first 5 league games is not a good way to start the league in my opinion

Bahia 1 - 0 Bragantino

This is also not a result that surprises me, considering the good performance that the Bahia team is having in these first 6 league games and looking at the performance of Bragantino, who in the last 4 games had 2 draws and 2 wins, so Bahia's victory, which in the last 4 games had 3 wins and 1 draw, doesn't surprise me. With this victory, Bahia is in second place in the table

Palmeiras 0 - 2 Athletico

This is a result that doesn't surprise me, despite Palmeiras being last season's champion, in these first league games, they seem like they haven't woken up, they're not playing well. In this game, for example, the Athletico player had a red card in the 67th minute and even so, Palmeiras were unable to take advantage of this situation and score a goal, and it's really sad that not even with the opponent playing with just 10 players, Palmeiras couldn't score 1. goal. But it is possible that Palmeiras will wake up later when the league is halfway through and become champions, just like last season
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The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  Cool

Rumors are already circulating about goalkeeper Cassio going to Cruzeiro on a three-year contract
It could be true and even though I support Corinthians, I think it could benefit everyone, because it's about time Corinthians had a new goalkeeper with longevity in mind and Carlos Miguel is waiting for his chance, and if it's not now, the goalkeeper could become dissatisfied and even leave the club to be a starter elsewhere. So the time is now

About Palmeiras losing the points I liked it too haha, I watched a bit of the Athletico PR match and the team is very good for this season, if it continues like this it could be a good candidate to be among the first, so far, Bahia and Athletico PR have surprised me the most

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I doubt Corinthians which is one of the great teams of Brasileirao to go down in Serie B that easily.I know that when the players are unhappy they can do whatever they want to get the desired outcome for them not caring much for the team.If you remember some years ago in Germany the best team there Bayern kept losing games until the coach was fired as they were not happy with him.So anything can happen based on what players feel like doing.

Corinthians lost another match, this time to Flamengo 2x0
When Corinthians are doing badly, everything is more difficult because I would say that the team's fans are one of the hardest to deal with
It doesn't take long for threats to be made against the players, accusations against the directors and managers, etc

The situation is not good, so far there are 6 games and only 5 points, I'd say they need a miracle to at least qualify for the Libertadores

I'm glad I didn't bet on Corinthians this round  Embarrassed


The situation is very complicated for Corinthians, even goalkeeper Cássio has become a reserve, an idol of the fans... At least they gave some relief to coach Tite, who is already questioned a lot in the Flamengo team.

Another result that surprised me was Atlético PR's victory over Palmeiras in São Paulo, I didn't expect that result, that's very good, the fewer points Palmeiras scores, the better  Cool
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What is your opinion regarding only the teams from Rio Grande do Sul being left out of the Brasileirão, will it harm the competition? Is something correct? I wanted to understand your opinion here. Well, I believe it hasn't stopped yet because there are precisely the bets we talked about here previously.

It's a VERY difficult decision to make, because whatever it is, it will affect a lot of things
I think it would be wise to hold a meeting with all the teams participating in the Brazilian championship, and take a vote on what action to take

In addition to the lack of condition of the stadiums and the compromised infrastructure, there is the factor that practically everyone in the state is affected in one way or another, their families at risk, people involved in aid etc.
A very unfortunate situation

I just read on a sports news that the CBF is studying the possibility of suspending all Brasileirão games, not just the games of teams that were directly affected by the flood. In fact, this request is coming from the Ministry of Sports, which formalized this request to the CBF today.

Regarding other teams giving up their stadiums for training, I also think this is unlikely to happen. An example is the decision of Grêmio's coach, who has already ruled out the possibility of leaving Rio Grande do Sul amid the chaos to continue competing in the Brasileirão Championship.

In any case, a general strike would also negatively affect other clubs that depend on ticket money to cover their monthly expenses, but perhaps this is a way of showing more solidarity with the "gauchos", while also making a bit of sacrifice.

Renato Gaúcho, Grêmio coach, was one of the first to leave, he is in Rio de Janeiro...

I agree with a stoppage of the Brazilian Championship, it doesn't make sense, only the teams from Rio Grande do Sul have their games postponed, a stoppage of the championship is now the best option, at least for a few weeks.


Yes, he was one of the first but he is 61 years old. I don't see him doing this more manual work on the front line. So it makes sense for him to leave town, to support what happened in another way. Or campaign for the championship to be postponed.

But it's just his way of doing nothing, that always comes to mind.
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In any case, a general strike would also negatively affect other clubs that depend on ticket money to cover their monthly expenses, but perhaps this is a way of showing more solidarity with the "gauchos", while also making a bit of sacrifice.
It's hard to say something about this matter being outside of the reality they are facing. If they decide to keep the games as scheduled it seems insensible, because people will say money is talking louder than the suffering people are facing in Rio Grande do Sul, including the members of the clubs from that region. On the other hand, if games are postponed and the whole national industry stops temporarily, many other professionals will suffer as well, because the industry won't generate income to pay their wages.

There isn't an easy answer for this question. Maybe it's interesting to postpone games for a while (maybe few weeks or a month), but nothing beyond that seems reasonable, considering all the other negative impacts it's going to have over everyone else benefited directly or indirectly by soccer industry in Brazil.

The idea of leaving the flooded region to train and practice in the area of another club, which has volunteered a stadium or training arena for southern clubs is a good alternative, though.
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I doubt Corinthians which is one of the great teams of Brasileirao to go down in Serie B that easily.I know that when the players are unhappy they can do whatever they want to get the desired outcome for them not caring much for the team.If you remember some years ago in Germany the best team there Bayern kept losing games until the coach was fired as they were not happy with him.So anything can happen based on what players feel like doing.

Corinthians lost another match, this time to Flamengo 2x0
When Corinthians are doing badly, everything is more difficult because I would say that the team's fans are one of the hardest to deal with
It doesn't take long for threats to be made against the players, accusations against the directors and managers, etc

The situation is not good, so far there are 6 games and only 5 points, I'd say they need a miracle to at least qualify for the Libertadores

I'm glad I didn't bet on Corinthians this round  Embarrassed


I would say that clearly they are not in top form yet they are not far from the first place and we are just in the beginning of the Serie A with just 6 games played.I think it can also be related to not having started with the right foot this season Serie A yet I think that this kind of start can be had to any big team and not just Corinthians.I think the fans need to be a bit more patient and losing to Flamengo at home of Flamengo is not the end of the world for the simple reason that Flamengo is fighting for the title this season and this lost game should not be seen as something very bad,it i just a lost game,a normal occurrence for any team,including big ones.Let's wait a couple of games more and if they keep losing like another 2-3 consecutive games then I think it is enough to judge them as in very bad shape.
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