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Quote from: alegotardo on February 16, 2024, 08:11:45 PM

I just read that these "absurd" values only tend to increase, as the members of "Libra" which is mainly made up of nine clubs from Series A (Flamengo, Corinthians, São Paulo, Palmeiras, Bahia, Vitória, Atlético-MG, Grêmio and Red Bull Bragantino), is already negotiating TV rights for next year's Brasileirão and the amount involved in this negotiation is billions.
To give you an idea, "TV Globo" has already offered R$ 1.3 billion (Brazilian value) but the association refused it Tongue

Furthermore, there is also sponsorship from companies that certainly also pay a lot of money to appear on the shirts of the main football teams.

I keep thinking that the main objective of these clubs is not to win the championship, but to gain from advertising.

I'd even forgotten about this "LIBRA" group
The situation is not easy for Globo, now that the clubs have discovered that they can make even more money than selling the broadcast to Globo, but this amount of 1.3 billion reais is quite absurd Shocked

And in 2024 I bet we'll have even more sportsbooks sponsoring Brazilian clubs
I'm going to do a research to find out if we'll have record sponsorship this year, but possibly we will

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Quote from: rdluffy on February 15, 2024, 07:34:55 AM

But an important detail: the prize money in the São Paulo championship is so good, you won't believe it:
The big 4 (Corinthians, São Paulo, Palmeiras and Santos) will receive 40 million reais each in TV rights.
While the smaller teams will receive 8 million reais

I just read that these "absurd" values only tend to increase, as the members of "Libra" which is mainly made up of nine clubs from Series A (Flamengo, Corinthians, São Paulo, Palmeiras, Bahia, Vitória, Atlético-MG, Grêmio and Red Bull Bragantino), is already negotiating TV rights for next year's Brasileirão and the amount involved in this negotiation is billions.
To give you an idea, "TV Globo" has already offered R$ 1.3 billion (Brazilian value) but the association refused it Tongue

Furthermore, there is also sponsorship from companies that certainly also pay a lot of money to appear on the shirts of the main football teams.

I keep thinking that the main objective of these clubs is not to win the championship, but to gain from advertising.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on February 14, 2024, 05:48:50 AM

Back in the 90s-2000s it was much more competitive and was really cool to watch, today teams generally do tests and use reserves, using the showcase team to negotiate players, I think that time has passed and the state championship has lost some of the importance it once had.

remembering the 2000s, I will never forget the Flamengo x Vasco final in 2001, Pet's goal in the 43rd minute. the second half, epic! One of the best memories I have of a state championship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG8chsn-iNk

You probably follow the carioca championship more, right?

I'm from the state of São Paulo and I support Corinthians, so I end up watching the Paulista championship more, and it's still a very competitive championship. Of course, the big teams take the opportunity to try out new players, and the smaller teams do their best to try to be champions or at least reach the semi-finals

But an important detail: the prize money in the São Paulo championship is so good, you won't believe it:
The big 4 (Corinthians, São Paulo, Palmeiras and Santos) will receive 40 million reais each in TV rights.
While the smaller teams will receive 8 million reais

As you can see, it's a significant amount, and if they go further in the championship, they'll receive even more Shocked

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Back in the 90s-2000s it was much more competitive and was really cool to watch, today teams generally do tests and use reserves, using the showcase team to negotiate players, I think that time has passed and the state championship has lost some of the importance it once had.

remembering the 2000s, I will never forget the Flamengo x Vasco final in 2001, Pet's goal in the 43rd minute. the second half, epic! One of the best memories I have of a state championship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG8chsn-iNk

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Quote from: alegotardo on February 02, 2024, 12:53:20 PM

Generally, the state championship often serves as a period of testing and adaptation of new signings, arranging the team and discovering potential with combinations of different formations on the field.
Not to mention that, even at the beginning of the year, with the state championship already taking place, it is common to see signings still being made.

Think of it this way: the Brazilian champion has theoretically been a strong team all year, since it's a points race, and if the team won the Brazilian championship, there's a good chance they'll have won the state championship too, since it's an easier
It's not a guarantee, of course, but there's a good chance
And it's also true that there's still the transfer window after the state championships, so the teams that didn't do well still have the chance to make some last-minute signings to try and strengthen the squad

Then I'll find out who the last Brazilian champions were, if they were also state champions
It might even help with the next bets hehehe Grin

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Quote from: rdluffy on February 02, 2024, 08:55:09 AM

Could this poor performance of some teams in the state championships be reflected in this year's of Brasileirao? Or could things change by then?

I kind of disagree that the results of the state championships can reflect the result of the Brasileirão....
Generally, the state championship often serves as a period of testing and adaptation of new signings, arranging the team and discovering potential with combinations of different formations on the field.
Not to mention that, even at the beginning of the year, with the state championship already taking place, it is common to see signings still being made.

Anyway, I looked for some historical data and didn't find much of a relationship between the good performance of the state championships and the Brasileirão.

In a state like São Paulo, for example, this can even serve as a base, but if you take other states in which there is only one state team that participates in the Brasileirão championship, there is no way to measure their performance relationship.

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Quote from: gagux123 on February 01, 2024, 06:32:04 PM

I watched some highlights from some games.
But I also realized that some teams are performing poorly, especially Corinthians. (played 4 games, won 1 and lost 3 games)
Could this poor performance of some teams in the state championships be reflected in this year's of Brasileirao? Or could things change by then?

Absolutely, the results of the state championships can have an impact on future performance in the Brasileirao

The state championships are an excellent way for teams to test out their players, new formations, get used to playing with their new players and coaches. Quite different from what happens in other leagues around the world

-> If the team does well in the state championship, they can keep the same way of playing
-> If the team does very badly, they still have a few days to reshape, once again, and then play in the Brasileirão

Last year was a good example, Palmeiras were Paulista champions and then Brazilian champions

Are you a São Paulo fan gagux? I can't remember your team

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Quote from: rdluffy on January 31, 2024, 07:18:02 AM

Guys, are you watching the state championships?
As you know, I'm a Corinthians fan, and I'm not at all excited about the team for the Brazilian championship, they lost to São Paulo yesterday and the team doesn't seem to have improved at all, even after changing the coach and several players

I watched some highlights from some games.
But I also realized that some teams are performing poorly, especially Corinthians. (played 4 games, won 1 and lost 3 games)
Could this poor performance of some teams in the state championships be reflected in this year's of Brasileirao? Or could things change by then?

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Quote from: gagux123 on January 31, 2024, 04:30:57 AM

I'll be honest, I confess that I am surprised by this news!
Well, I imagined that there was some kind of match fixing of some football games in Brazil, but I didn't think the situation was more serious.
Currently, it is carrying out a match fixing operation for some national and state championship games in Brazil.
This event is actually more serious than I imagined.

I remember that operation you mentioned, it's a disgrace for Brazilian soccer and I hope they manage to punish those responsible, setting an example so that it doesn't happen again
Let's wait for the next news to see if they manage to prove that the Brazilian A series championship has also been manipulated

Guys, are you watching the state championships?
As you know, I'm a Corinthians fan, and I'm not at all excited about the team for the Brazilian championship, they lost to São Paulo yesterday and the team doesn't seem to have improved at all, even after changing the coach and several players

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Quote from: rdluffy on January 23, 2024, 10:55:05 AM

I don't know if you've seen this news, I saw it today and it was published yesterday:
There's a company that's been hired to analyze the refereeing of Campeonato Carioca 2024 (Good Game! is the name of the company), and it claims that it's 99% sure that there was match-fixing in last year's Brazilian championship (2023)

Source here

What do you think?
According to the company, it wasn't a whole team trying to manipulate, but a few players
I think it's entirely possible, but it's very difficult to prove it

I'll be honest, I confess that I am surprised by this news!
Well, I imagined that there was some kind of match fixing of some football games in Brazil, but I didn't think the situation was more serious.
Currently, it is carrying out a match fixing operation for some national and state championship games in Brazil.
This event is actually more serious than I imagined.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 23, 2024, 11:29:02 AM

This new season I think that Botafogo RJ should try to have a better control of their position in the league.I am very sorry for them losing the title completely on their own fault and no other reason,they were a huge 9 points advantage at a certain point and they managed to lose it all in the final stages of the last season.What makes it worse is that they even had a chance in those final stages to correct their mistakes and they did not profit in the moments where Palmeiras lost points.I think they will be a contender to the title again this season but let's see how it looks.

Botafogo RJ's situation is not very easy
Yesterday the team lost to Boavista in the Carioca championship, it's a small team
The team has won 2 and lost 1 so far
It's worth keeping an eye on the state championship as it's a great preview of what the Brazilian championship will be like in 2024

Palmeiras, for example, were champions of Paulista 2023 and were also champions of Brasileiro 2023.

So far the first games of the big teams haven't been that good, they're still getting their teams right, making changes, trying out new players and finding new positions, and in a few rounds we'll be able to get a better view
It's even a bit difficult to find a good bet for the games, as they're very unpredictable at the moment

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This new season I think that Botafogo RJ should try to have a better control of their position in the league.I am very sorry for them losing the title completely on their own fault and no other reason,they were a huge 9 points advantage at a certain point and they managed to lose it all in the final stages of the last season.What makes it worse is that they even had a chance in those final stages to correct their mistakes and they did not profit in the moments where Palmeiras lost points.I think they will be a contender to the title again this season but let's see how it looks.

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I don't know if you've seen this news, I saw it today and it was published yesterday:
There's a company that's been hired to analyze the refereeing of Campeonato Carioca 2024 (Good Game! is the name of the company), and it claims that it's 99% sure that there was match-fixing in last year's Brazilian championship (2023)

Source here

What do you think?
According to the company, it wasn't a whole team trying to manipulate, but a few players
I think it's entirely possible, but it's very difficult to prove it

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Quote from: alegotardo on January 21, 2024, 01:46:26 PM

Last year, the regulatory agency CADE (Administrative Council for Economic Defense) had investigated Globo for monopoly, broadcasting games under specific interest and for making it difficult to transfer images to other broadcasters, in short... nothing came of it.

I would like to know what the agreement was reached (in terms of values) for each team, as we know that some receive much more than others.

This is serious? I didn't know about this event, I wouldn't have imagined that Globo was involved in a monopoly focused on football... well, I hope that at the end of all this, the ones who suffer are not the fans and viewers.

Quote from: rdluffy on January 21, 2024, 03:37:55 PM

I wonder if in a few years the teams themselves will be able to broadcast their matches. Leaving aside the TV stations so they can try to make more money?
At least the bigger teams

Hmm... that's a good question! I believe so, year after year new technologies are emerging and streaming has become better known not only in Brazil but worldwide.
I remember that during the World Cup the streamer CazeTv also broadcast the games and I watched some, I confess that it was an interesting experience and I liked it, as previously most of the World Cup games were broadcast on open transmission channels. Possibly yes, I also believe that in the future some teams (not just football), but other sports will start broadcasting games (streaming)

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Quote from: gagux123 on January 21, 2024, 05:46:21 AM

Another news about the 2024 Brazilian Championship

It was announced that Rede Globo (one of the largest television channel companies in Brazil) has just signed a contract with the last team (Criciuma) to be able to broadcast this year's Brazilian Championship games.
Now, Rede Globo has the right to broadcast the 2024 season games of all teams, and can broadcast on open transmission channels, paid channel and pay-per-view.

source: https://ge.globo.com/negocios-do-esporte/noticia/2024/01/18/criciuma-fecha-com-globo-por-transmissao-da-serie-a-em-2024.ghtml

I was curious to see the news because last year Globo wasn't allowed to broadcast Athletico PR's games, and this year it will only be able to broadcast on free channels like Globo. No SporTV or Premiere for the team's matches
I remember it well because CazeTV broadcast all the team's matches and gained a lot of followers

I wonder if in a few years the teams themselves will be able to broadcast their matches. Leaving aside the TV stations so they can try to make more money?
At least the bigger teams

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Quote from: gagux123 on January 21, 2024, 05:46:21 AM

Another news about the 2024 Brazilian Championship

It was announced that Rede Globo (one of the largest television channel companies in Brazil) has just signed a contract with the last team (Criciuma) to be able to broadcast this year's Brazilian Championship games.
Now, Rede Globo has the right to broadcast the 2024 season games of all teams, and can broadcast on open transmission channels, paid channel and pay-per-view.

source: https://ge.globo.com/negocios-do-esporte/noticia/2024/01/18/criciuma-fecha-com-globo-por-transmissao-da-serie-a-em-2024.ghtml

Globo monopoly once again?
Unfortunately, the clubs have once again surrendered to the Globo network's money and now those who have money will be able to choose what they want on PayPerView, the others will have to watch the favorites that Globo chooses. With the exception of Athletico-PR, Globo can only broadcast its games on open TV.

Last year, the regulatory agency CADE (Administrative Council for Economic Defense) had investigated Globo for monopoly, broadcasting games under specific interest and for making it difficult to transfer images to other broadcasters, in short... nothing came of it.

I would like to know what the agreement was reached (in terms of values) for each team, as we know that some receive much more than others.

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Another news about the 2024 Brazilian Championship

It was announced that Rede Globo (one of the largest television channel companies in Brazil) has just signed a contract with the last team (Criciuma) to be able to broadcast this year's Brazilian Championship games.
Now, Rede Globo has the right to broadcast the 2024 season games of all teams, and can broadcast on open transmission channels, paid channel and pay-per-view.

source: https://ge.globo.com/negocios-do-esporte/noticia/2024/01/18/criciuma-fecha-com-globo-por-transmissao-da-serie-a-em-2024.ghtml

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Quote from: alegotardo on January 13, 2024, 12:52:32 PM

Yes!
Botafogo really opened up space for new signings.
In goal, as far as I know John came to be the starting goalkeeper and in defense Lucas Halter and Barboza who were standouts in Goiás and Libertad will play a very different defense this year.
I'm just not very convinced that Botafogo made good options for the attack... Jeffinho, Savarino?? I don't think it will make a big difference, but we'll see how they interact with the team on the field.

Anyway... there were changes in all sectors of the team, from what I could see, we'll see. For better or worse, something must change.

At least they've taken action and are reshaping the team
I don't blame them that much anymore, because looking at the past, the coach leaving Botafogo in the middle of the championship was a very hard hit for the whole team

Savarino was the second most expensive signing in Botafogo's history, and to tell you the truth, I didn't even know this player Cheesy

The team paid around 2.6 million dollars, which is about 13 million BRL (Source)
It doesn't seem like much compared to Europe, but by Brazilian standards, it's a very expensive player indeed
In the Carioca championship we'll be able to get a preview of how the team will play

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Quote from: rdluffy on January 12, 2024, 01:50:38 PM

Botafogo, after losing last season's title, are reshaping their squad
14 players in total have already left the team, most notably goalkeeper Lucas Perri and Adryelson (defender) who have been sold to Lyon (France)
These are two important losses, but Botafogo want to reshape the team considerably

Yes!
Botafogo really opened up space for new signings.
In goal, as far as I know John came to be the starting goalkeeper and in defense Lucas Halter and Barboza who were standouts in Goiás and Libertad will play a very different defense this year.
I'm just not very convinced that Botafogo made good options for the attack... Jeffinho, Savarino?? I don't think it will make a big difference, but we'll see how they interact with the team on the field.

Anyway... there were changes in all sectors of the team, from what I could see, we'll see. For better or worse, something must change.

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Quote from: uneng on January 09, 2024, 02:19:54 PM

Is it too early to say Palmeiras will win once again? Cheesy

Betting houses are considering Flamengo as the favorite to win Brasileirão 2024. Palmeiras comes in second place and Atlético-MG in third. They might know something we don't, but it seems unreasonable to put Flamengo as favorite when Palmeiras remains unbeatable and getting stronger season after season. There aren't significant changes in Palmeiras team to consider they shouldn't be the favorite anymore.

They have proven to deliver a stable performance even in very unfavourable and uncertain conditions, like it happened last year with Botafogo dominating the champioship for a long time. Despite this fact, Palmeiras didn't get unsettled and bounced back in the end.

Last year I won the bet on Palmeiras being champions, but this year I still need to watch the state championships to get a good idea of who to bet on, it's better to make this bet one day before the championship starts

Botafogo, after losing last season's title, are reshaping their squad
14 players in total have already left the team, most notably goalkeeper Lucas Perri and Adryelson (defender) who have been sold to Lyon (France)
These are two important losses, but Botafogo want to reshape the team considerably

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