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July 02, 2021, 05:16:45 PM
I really don't like Casimero's arrogant he can do that to other boxers but not on his countryman, he doesn't respect anybody, Donaire is such a respectful fighter and very professional boxer I hope when he faced Inoue, Inoue will teach him a lesson about humility when he knocks him out, somebody should teach Casimero a lesson in humility and Inoue will do just that.

Locking this thread since this fight is off now.
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July 02, 2021, 05:11:35 PM
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^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.

Donaire wants to avenge his loss and take the belt of Inoue, that's a big mission because Inoue is still undefeated until now and he has been crushing his opponent. A wise decision by Donaire to face Inoue, but he should have not accepted the fight of Casimero if he has an intention to fight Inoue soon, that's being unprofessional.
Well, we have the same insight about this cancelled fight --in the first place, Donaire shouldn't accept Casimero's fight both of them if he underestimated the skills of Casimero and even though Donaire is overrated there will perhaps a chance he will win in the future. However, the cancellation of the fight was done and I don't want to know what is the reaction in most Donaire fanatics now.
I still can't believe the cancellation of this fight..
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July 02, 2021, 04:13:18 PM
~snip~
On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.
^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.

Donaire wants to avenge his loss and take the belt of Inoue, that's a big mission because Inoue is still undefeated until now and he has been crushing his opponent. A wise decision by Donaire to face Inoue, but he should have not accepted the fight of Casimero if he has an intention to fight Inoue soon, that's being unprofessional.

It was a clear loss and Inoue had imposed the strategy on him, though I must say  Inoue struggled a bit in that fight, he was able to adjust and win the fight. I'm not sure what Donaire could do in the rematch, but regardless, it's good to see a rematch as they gave us an entertaining fight when they met before.
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July 02, 2021, 03:10:59 PM
~snip~
On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.
^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.

Donaire wants to avenge his loss and take the belt of Inoue, that's a big mission because Inoue is still undefeated until now and he has been crushing his opponent. A wise decision by Donaire to face Inoue, but he should have not accepted the fight of Casimero if he has an intention to fight Inoue soon, that's being unprofessional.
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July 02, 2021, 03:07:14 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

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Im really looking for that wife issue and i do find this one the link. https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/06/30/nonito-donarie-john-riel-casimero-scrap/

“We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as ‘just for entertainment."
So this was because on some memes? Whos husband wouldnt really make such reaction? You are already crossing the line.
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July 02, 2021, 02:47:14 PM
~snip~
On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.
^ Oh it is canceled, I never know that this fight was canceled.
But I think that is a good decision from Donaire even though people think that this is a cowardly act. But the fact that Casimero's was overrated that possibly would have a knockout. What I think here is the Donaire and Inoue fight will be incoming and probably this was the reason for match cancellation because Donaire reserved his strength on Inoue, not on Casimero.
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July 02, 2021, 02:25:06 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.
We can't have the same understanding and maturity about things. However, we are not there when Donaire and his wife talked about the issue that make Donaire cancel the fight but his tweet about the words said by Casimero shows that if he going on with the fight he may loose his marriage.
Really hard to point out fingers on here on who's the one would gonna be blamed for the cancellation of fight since it turns out that this do end up on being too personal.

They do already involved things which arent supposed to be included in the first place.So its understandable that pride or ego would really be touched up.

This turns out to be a presume fight and make the crowd a bit hype then it ended up on nothing.  Cheesy
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July 02, 2021, 01:27:54 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.
We can't have the same understanding and maturity about things. However, we are not there when Donaire and his wife talked about the issue that make Donaire cancel the fight but his tweet about the words said by Casimero shows that if he going on with the fight he may loose his marriage.
legendary
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July 02, 2021, 11:38:49 AM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.

It's different though, mostly Filipinos are very emotional and easily gets upset when something negative is being thrown out on you. Oscars knows better, that why he uses this as fuel and after that fight he admit that Mayorga really gets into his skin, but he try to focus and wanted to get the knockout.

On the video that I posted, you can see and hear Donaire's reason and then more on why he cancelled this fight. He really take it personally, so I'm not sure if this fight can still be salvage. And I agree that the fans are mostly affected by the cancellation.
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July 02, 2021, 08:33:06 AM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.
They are making money by trash talking, I mean attracted a lot of speculators just like us here we've talked that match about this drama, and that's the main goal for them. I also don't believe that this fight will be canceled because Casimero is so sure that the fight will push through as if he done nothing. They are professionals though, this kind of action can raise doubt on your own reputation so better to avoid this.
For now, the game is off, Donaire already said that in public. So the ball is not of Casimero here, he might say that the fight will push through, but it takes two to tango. Not sure what will it takes for Donaire to accept the fight again, public apology from Casimero?
I think Casimero would not do a public apology as he believes that he did not make any mistake.
According to him, he just tells his experience with Donaire when he was still new in the US, and Donaire accused him of lying.
Now, it's the fans who are affected as we don't know who is telling the truth, but I can see that Casimero is getting sympathy from the fans.

They are professionals but sometimes if trash talking goes to extreme, it became personally like Khabib vs McGregor.
Yeah, sort of, but let's hope if it will end in war of words, they will still face in the future.
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July 02, 2021, 04:19:53 AM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.
They are making money by trash talking, I mean attracted a lot of speculators just like us here we've talked that match about this drama, and that's the main goal for them. I also don't believe that this fight will be canceled because Casimero is so sure that the fight will push through as if he done nothing. They are professionals though, this kind of action can raise doubt on your own reputation so better to avoid this.
For now, the game is off, Donaire already said that in public. So the ball is not of Casimero here, he might say that the fight will push through, but it takes two to tango. Not sure what will it takes for Donaire to accept the fight again, public apology from Casimero?

They are professionals but sometimes if trash talking goes to extreme, it became personally like Khabib vs McGregor.
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July 02, 2021, 03:55:00 AM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.
They are making money by trash talking, I mean attracted a lot of speculators just like us here we've talked that match about this drama, and that's the main goal for them. I also don't believe that this fight will be canceled because Casimero is so sure that the fight will push through as if he done nothing. They are professionals though, this kind of action can raise doubt on your own reputation so better to avoid this.
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July 02, 2021, 03:31:10 AM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.

Yes, he is obviously very emotional about everything specially how Casimero or someone in his camp is disrespecting his family. I think Donaire wanted to teach Casimero a big lesson here, I assumed that this is the biggest pay check for Casimero and since the fight is off for now, he need to look for other fight but I don't think that he will get as close as what he is getting on the Donaire fight. And Nonito because of the disrespect, will not get Casimero this chance to earn huge money.

I remember Oscar Dela Hoya vs Mayorga calls Oscar everything he can, including "Maricon", "Payaso" and even says that he is not embrace by the Latinos and worst he also attacks his wife (just like what the camp of Casimero did here.)

Dela Hoya used this as motivation and then knock out Mayorga out. Donaire should have at least learn from this promotion.
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July 02, 2021, 01:44:31 AM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.

somewhat like they are testing if the match could get substantial support to make money out of it. to make more hype i guess casimero provoked donaire way beyond the line and so rachel wanting to prove like she could cancel a match. mixed nuts. if casimero is paid low, doesn't matter as long as he agrees to it. and donaire could punish him in the ring for rude comments to wifey.
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July 01, 2021, 06:05:22 PM
They have now created a nationwide awareness so skipping the fight is like throwing away a good revenue for the fight. They reached all the target audiences on the fight and I'm sure many will watch as people want to see how Nonito will react on the ring.

I'm now starting to believe that this was all to promote the fight as there's still no official announcement yet from the promoters. The issue was surely true and legit but the fight won't be likely to officially canceled.
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July 01, 2021, 06:04:09 PM
Donaire can still change his mind if he feels that his family is disrespected then he should get even in the ring, people might think that he is afraid of Casimero, for Casimero he should go for Donaire for testing, if he is interested to get the fight push through and take out Donaire's alibi, this is a good fight and approved by all boxing fans
True that donaire can still change his mind to fight casimero but if not then we won't see this big fight. On casimero's side, he is looking forward to fight inoue and this may be the reason for what he did. Let's just wait as see what will happen if the fight will continue or cancelled. There will be a lot of gamblers are looking for a chance to bet on this match (if it happens or not cancelled). Still, the fight is on August so there's still time to wait and see for this match up to happen or cancelled.
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July 01, 2021, 06:01:39 PM
Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans.

There is still roughly a month to fixed those things. Nonito Donaire might be just be carried away with his emotions.

Let's give them several weeks. Casimero's camp is silent and just releasing few statements, meaning they admit there's a mistake on their part.

The issue will be settled and I know Casimero's camp or others else are doing something behind the camera for the fight to be possibly continued.
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July 01, 2021, 05:41:10 PM


Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans. Whatever Donaire would say, the fans would not accept it as it disappointed them not to see this big fight, it's supposed to make history as two Filipino champions collide for unification of title.
Donaire can still change his mind if he feels that his family is disrespected then he should get even in the ring, people might think that he is afraid of Casimero, for Casimero he should go for Donaire for testing, if he is interested to get the fight push through and take out Donaire's alibi, this is a good fight and approved by all boxing fans
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July 01, 2021, 05:22:39 PM
This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...
Indeed, this is very much awaited event that we're going to witness once it will push thru. As there's no official announcement, this is going to be more exciting for both camp's fans now. Every decisions will change according to what final negotiations will come out, what's important is we knew the capabilities of Donaire that he'd able to beat Casimero if their fight will commence.
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July 01, 2021, 05:10:42 PM
Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.
-snip-

Since this is personal, they are the only ones who know what's happening here.

Donaire will never be angry without a reason, but the question is, is it enough to cancel the fight?
Poor Donaire, people usually looked up on him, but with his decision, it turns out the fans are putting their support on Casimero.

I agree on what you had said, this isnt just enough to be a reason on cancelling a fight for a very very simple reason because that would really be creating a bad impression towards him.

Hopefully this one would be settled as it turns out this had been a misunderstanding or they do really just give importance into their ego and end up on this kind of decision.

The thrill and hype was just simply vanished because of this and its really sad to think off.


Donaire failed to handle it professionally,  this is supposed to be a big fight, it's still a unification of belts and both boxers have supported from their fans. Whatever Donaire would say, the fans would not accept it as it disappointed them not to see this big fight, it's supposed to make history as two Filipino champions collide for unification of title.
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