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Quote from: Natalim on June 28, 2021, 03:51:46 PM

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

Donaire does not ask for it in his previous fights IIRC, so can we call this an insult on Casimero's camp? For me, it shows that he doesn't trust Casimero and believes that he is using an enhancing drug to increase his stamina and power, how about you, what message did you see in this news?

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Quote from: Natalim on June 28, 2021, 03:51:46 PM

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

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Quote from: harizen on June 28, 2021, 03:43:14 PM

There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

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There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.

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Quote from: virasisog on June 27, 2021, 08:35:48 AM

Donaire is considered as one of the fastest and best counter puncher. I consider Donaire as one of the best Filipino boxer next to Pacquiao. I am not well aware of Casimero even though he is a Filipino boxer. So, I guess I'll just wait and see what he can do since we know Donaire as one of the best counter puncher and not to mention thw huge gap of experience.

But Donaire is on His retirement age already while casimero is still fresh.

but i am vouching for donaire on this fight as this will come to surely end of the round and for Decisioning from judges.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on June 28, 2021, 03:45:35 AM

It's still a mystery to me why some bookies list fights near the date of the fight as if that would change a thing with people that rig matches.

No idea about that, since the bookies are the one who are responsible for bringing sports and how they've provide odds. maybe there's some influece from those who are into rigging fights that they are considering, not sure though Roll Eyes

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I have heard that too, most sports news are focusing on Donaire in this fight which is clearly means that Donaire will probably have a lower odds against Casimero.

Donaire still getting that edge from the eyes of sport bookies, they seen that the hypes for Donaire brings them nice profits..

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Quote from: harizen on June 27, 2021, 06:44:51 PM

Let's wait at least a day or two prior to the match.

The Inoue vs Dasmarinas fight was listed on some crypto-sportsbook although those giants didn't list it. Don't know the reason though.

Currently on some boxing and sports analyst, Donaire is the favorite to win the match.

It's still a mystery to me why some bookies list fights near the date of the fight as if that would change a thing with people that rig matches. I have heard that too, most sports news are focusing on Donaire in this fight which is clearly means that Donaire will probably have a lower odds against Casimero.

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Quote from: tippytoes on June 27, 2021, 06:19:16 PM

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I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.

Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.

Sometimes, it really depends on their promoters, even if the boxer wants to fight another boxer. They need to consider if the fight will also attract viewers. In this fight, I will go for Donaire, and if he wins, high chance that there will be Inoue-Donaire rematch, which their promoters can easily sell. So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.

That's right if the promoters see that there's going to be huge money that's on it, they're going to make it happen. But if there's no interest from the match and it's obvious that it won't make that much money, they're not going to make it happen. Aside from the split and the interest of the crowd and boxing fans, there are other factors that might stop the matches and I think that's why we're seeing some drama lately for them to sell their matches and I think that's a very good marketing strategy from these boxers alone. They know how to sell themselves and how to sell their upcoming match.

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Quote from: tippytoes on June 27, 2021, 06:19:16 PM

So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.

Let's wait at least a day or two prior to the match.

The Inoue vs Dasmarinas fight was listed on some crypto-sportsbook although those giants didn't list it. Don't know the reason though.

Currently on some boxing and sports analyst, Donaire is the favorite to win the match.

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Quote from: tippytoes on June 27, 2021, 06:19:16 PM

Quote from: blockman on June 27, 2021, 06:10:44 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on June 27, 2021, 04:11:24 PM

I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.

Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.

Sometimes, it really depends on their promoters, even if the boxer wants to fight another boxer. They need to consider if the fight will also attract viewers. In this fight, I will go for Donaire, and if he wins, high chance that there will be Inoue-Donaire rematch, which their promoters can easily sell. So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.

That will be the discussion between promoters and the fighters. If they will agree with the terms and conditions especially for the money, then they will set the fight. Boxing is a money business, not only in building a reputation that is why sometimes we hear that they cancel their mutual plan fight because of some reason and that probably because of money.

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Quote from: blockman on June 27, 2021, 06:10:44 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on June 27, 2021, 04:11:24 PM

I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.

Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.

Sometimes, it really depends on their promoters, even if the boxer wants to fight another boxer. They need to consider if the fight will also attract viewers. In this fight, I will go for Donaire, and if he wins, high chance that there will be Inoue-Donaire rematch, which their promoters can easily sell. So no odds yet for this fight, right? Because the last fight of Inoue vs Dasmarinas, the top bookies didn't list this fight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 27, 2021, 04:11:24 PM

I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.

Will there be another rematch for Donaire against Inoue? I think there's already a bond between these two and if Donaire wants to have a rematch to Inoue, I think he should have prioritized that over having a match with Casimero. But this is boxing, it's also a business that whoever comes first will be the first in line. I want both of them to fight Inoue. First, a rematch with Inoue and then Casimero having that match against Inoue and both of them win against Inoue to have that pride again back to them. It's just about the split with the profits and if their negotiation did better than the usual. But that always the case why a match doesn't happen, sometimes if the boxer and its management refuses or if the split isn't favorable to both parties.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 27, 2021, 04:11:24 PM

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Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.

That is Casimero anyway, he always trash talking so this is not a surprise anymore. Whoever wins on this match will still have my support on their next fight especially against Inoue, that's the main goal for this two boxer so that video is very straight to the point and hopefully Casimero will deliver and not just on trash talking.

I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.

Man, you made me remember how crazy Casimero was when he challenged Inoue before.
https://youtu.be/UGSwfPZbsW8
video not mine.
I don't know but I guess Casimero is more than ready to fight Inoue during that time, though he struggled on how he's going to deliver the challenge in english language. I literally laugh out loud the way he speaks to the crowd, but that's what we want, that's what the fans want. Sell the fight.
But, unfortunately it didn't happen. So, today I'm kinda excited to watch who will fight Inoue next. I dont care who wins between these two, they both deserved to fight Inoue.

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Quote from: crzy on June 27, 2021, 03:57:03 PM

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Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.

That is Casimero anyway, he always trash talking so this is not a surprise anymore. Whoever wins on this match will still have my support on their next fight especially against Inoue, that's the main goal for this two boxer so that video is very straight to the point and hopefully Casimero will deliver and not just on trash talking.

I hope Inoue is telling the truth and he will not cancel a fight again.

Inoue doesn’t mind waiting for Donaire vs Casimero winner

If Donaire wins, I guess we will see a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, but if Casimero wins, then I think the chance of happening might be a little low.
I was just thinking, if Inoue really wants to fight Casimero, he should have fought him before when he was being challenged.

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Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.

That is Casimero anyway, he always trash talking so this is not a surprise anymore. Whoever wins on this match will still have my support on their next fight especially against Inoue, that's the main goal for this two boxer so that video is very straight to the point and hopefully Casimero will deliver and not just on trash talking.

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Quote from: Oceat on June 27, 2021, 02:14:57 PM

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Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.

Any upcoming fight should really be having some hype of it and as a boxer then it would really be part of the job on making those kind of words or actions just to make the upcoming fight to be more exciting which basically means that more money for the said fight.

You can eventually find it out to be that obvious on some situations though but it is understandable that they would really be needing on adding up some spice.

Lets see if Casimero wont really be eating his words on fighting Donaire which is more experienced and more faster.

It's best to create a hype to change the odds in almost all bookies since most bookies listed the hype goes to Donaire.
Since in terms of advantage it's still Donaire has it and Casimero is just himself armed with his fist that will knock down any opponent.
Let's just wait and see if Casimero can handle Donaire with all he got while making a scene to spice up the fight a little bit.
On the other hand Donaire isn't really bothered about it but instead it's thanking all of its fans for the great support to both of them especially the Filipino community.

We don't know what the betting odds are yet, so we cannot tell if Donaire is the favorite to win this fight, but regardless, I think the odds would not make one heavily favored as both are champions and they have created their names in the sport. All I can expect is that this will be a great fight as both wants to prove the world that they are world class champions.

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Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.

Any upcoming fight should really be having some hype of it and as a boxer then it would really be part of the job on making those kind of words or actions just to make the upcoming fight to be more exciting which basically means that more money for the said fight.

You can eventually find it out to be that obvious on some situations though but it is understandable that they would really be needing on adding up some spice.

Lets see if Casimero wont really be eating his words on fighting Donaire which is more experienced and more faster.

It's best to create a hype to change the odds in almost all bookies since most bookies listed the hype goes to Donaire.
Since in terms of advantage it's still Donaire has it and Casimero is just himself armed with his fist that will knock down any opponent.
Let's just wait and see if Casimero can handle Donaire with all he got while making a scene to spice up the fight a little bit.
On the other hand Donaire isn't really bothered about it but instead it's thanking all of its fans for the great support to both of them especially the Filipino community.

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Casimero is creating hype on this fight by telling people on his video that he will teach Donaire a big lesson and after that, he will destroy Inoue, that's a big plan it's a big challenge for him, Donaire just found a fountain of youth he is back to his great self by destroying Oubaali where many thought Donaire will have a hard time, but turns out to be an easy fight for him.

Any upcoming fight should really be having some hype of it and as a boxer then it would really be part of the job on making those kind of words or actions just to make the upcoming fight to be more exciting which basically means that more money for the said fight.

You can eventually find it out to be that obvious on some situations though but it is understandable that they would really be needing on adding up some spice.

Lets see if Casimero wont really be eating his words on fighting Donaire which is more experienced and more faster.

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Donaire is considered as one of the fastest and best counter puncher. I consider Donaire as one of the best Filipino boxer next to Pacquiao. I am not well aware of Casimero even though he is a Filipino boxer. So, I guess I'll just wait and see what he can do since we know Donaire as one of the best counter puncher and not to mention thw huge gap of experience.

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I read that there's a lot of drama regarding the testing on this fight. Donaire's manager and wife claim that Casimero is not yet enrolled on VADA, while Casimero's camp says he is. And then Nonito threatening to walk out of this fight if Casimero doesn't submit the proper paperwork in time for the testing prior to the fight.

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