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Quote from: Japinat on July 01, 2021, 04:31:23 PM

Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.

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Since this is personal, they are the only ones who know what's happening here.

Donaire will never be angry without a reason, but the question is, is it enough to cancel the fight?
Poor Donaire, people usually looked up on him, but with his decision, it turns out the fans are putting their support on Casimero.

I agree on what you had said, this isnt just enough to be a reason on cancelling a fight for a very very simple reason because that would really be creating a bad impression towards him.

Hopefully this one would be settled as it turns out this had been a misunderstanding or they do really just give importance into their ego and end up on this kind of decision.

The thrill and hype was just simply vanished because of this and its really sad to think off.

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Because of the action of Donaire, I now love Casimero and I'm supporting him whoever he will face.

Why can't a Filipino boxer just follow Manny, he is humble all the time that's why he is now one of the legends in sports.
Donaire had his time, but next time he loses, we might not be able to see him come back again.

Donaire is just maybe making sure the next fight would be huge and he could win and I think it will not happen against Casimero as he is in his prime now.

Agree, if Donaire will lost against Casimero then that might be the end of his career. If he fight in a rematch with Inoue and loses chances of him fighting again is possible because of the "alibi" that Inoue is a champion of course and just hard to beat and he might go on fighting B level fighters for retirement.

This fight with Casimero is a brainchild of Rachel who in fact posted on her social media account after her meeting with some Top Rank officials and now they are the ones pulling it off because of some baseless allegations.

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Because of the action of Donaire, I now love Casimero and I'm supporting him whoever he will face.

Why can't a Filipino boxer just follow Manny, he is humble all the time that's why he is now one of the legends in sports.
Donaire had his time, but next time he loses, we might not be able to see him come back again.

Donaire is just maybe making sure the next fight would be huge and he could win and I think it will not happen against Casimero as he is in his prime now.

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Quote from: Hamphser on July 01, 2021, 03:55:06 PM

Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.

A bit impossible.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/nonito-donaire-cancels-unification-fight-with-john-riel-casimero-over-insults-hurled-at-his-wife/
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/385578/donaire-calls-off-fight-with-casimero
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/6/30/22557995/nonito-donaire-claims-not-fighting-john-riel-casimero-august-14-boxing-news-2021

It turns out that this one becomes personal which i do understand Donaire's part.

Since this is personal, they are the only ones who know what's happening here.

Donaire will never be angry without a reason, but the question is, is it enough to cancel the fight?
Poor Donaire, people usually looked up on him, but with his decision, it turns out the fans are putting their support on Casimero.

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Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.

A bit impossible.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/nonito-donaire-cancels-unification-fight-with-john-riel-casimero-over-insults-hurled-at-his-wife/
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/385578/donaire-calls-off-fight-with-casimero
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/6/30/22557995/nonito-donaire-claims-not-fighting-john-riel-casimero-august-14-boxing-news-2021

It turns out that this one becomes personal which i do understand Donaire's part.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 01, 2021, 02:32:42 PM

Casimero assure that the fight will push through so I guess they are just really trying to hype this match to attract more viewers not unless Donaire are too serious on cancelling this match. Hopefully, this will be settled now and start their training because many anticipate the match to become more brutal, August will be a month to remember for these two boxer.

I don't know if it's just pure hype, Casimero can say the fight will push through but what if Donaire would stick with his statement, this fight would not happen unless these two fighters are willing to fight each other. The controversy is too early, so IMO, there's really an intention on the Donaire's side to cancel the fight, maybe because they have found a way to fight Inoue, so bye Casimero for now.

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Quote from: Jating on July 01, 2021, 08:12:55 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 01, 2021, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.

Why did these both fighters make out arrangement in the first place and ending up for it not to happen just with some small issue and later on it becomes big and causes for it to postpone the fight?

If they are making their paths to get themselves to fight Inoue then so be it but it would really be good to look at if these both fighters would really box out inside the ring

but due to some issues then it wont be happening but doesnt mean that the thrill and excitement would stop on here.Adjustments would be made for sure.

We can't blame Donaire for cancelling the match because we don't know how will the issue affects Donaire with his match against Casimero. If the match isn't cancelled, It would be a personal match for Donaire. If Casimero's goal is to provoke Donaire, I think it ends up pretty bad for Casimero for doing that unprofessional move because he lost a match against Donaire. Inoue is on a tough spot right now on who will he choose to fight, Will it be Inoue vs Donaire or Inoue vs Casimero.

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Quote from: Jating on July 01, 2021, 08:12:55 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 01, 2021, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.

Why did these both fighters make out arrangement in the first place and ending up for it not to happen just with some small issue and later on it becomes big and causes for it to postpone the fight?

If they are making their paths to get themselves to fight Inoue then so be it but it would really be good to look at if these both fighters would really box out inside the ring

but due to some issues then it wont be happening but doesnt mean that the thrill and excitement would stop on here.Adjustments would be made for sure.

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on June 30, 2021, 01:38:48 PM

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Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here.

That would be another level of casimero if he will be silent, it's style though, but it's proven that those talks becomes power when he fights.

Quote from: Baofeng on June 30, 2021, 01:05:32 PM

I do hope that Casimero will subject himself to the testing as not to jeopardised this fight. We have heard that Donaire is threatening to way away in they will not settle on the VADA testing.

It's already settled https://twitter.com/Vada_Testing/status/1408928907386970116

But that fight is off as donaire's team announced.

I actually want casimero-inoue instead, I already predict that donaire will still be defeated against inoue base on his previous fight, he's becoming so slow that he always throw his left, he just have his left - a powerful left, that is, and nothing else.

Thanks,

Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MYxNmmzMgOJw

Donaire talking about Sean Gibbons and Casimero and why he cancel the fights.

He said the Casimero is jealous or him, but Nonito has a point, touch base on some very sensitive topic but its real talk. (I personally know some boxers back in the late 90's who became a world champion but ended up nothing in the next 5-10 years).

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Quote from: Jating on July 01, 2021, 08:12:55 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 01, 2021, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.

Casimero will need to fight Rigo and take the belt so he will have two belts, the winner of the Inoue vs Donaire fight will have to fight Casimero but I hope Inoue would win so we will see a big fight. They are now creating some buzz, this bantam weight division has become exciting as fans are now talking about it more.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 01, 2021, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this fight to happen.

Casimero is always like that, so brandish and boastful but if Donaire gets offended because they involved his family, then we must respect his decision not to pursue the fight with his fellow Pinoy.

Now what options are open for Donaire, right, he might straight go at Inoue. He has the belt and the champion and based on his last fight, he can still throw and some speed in it. I do hope that Bob Arum can make the fight happen at the end of the year. Casimero will have to make his own path if he wants to fight Inoue.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 01, 2021, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

It was Rigo who dominated the fight, he has good boxing skills and Donaire was not able to catch up with him. In an interview, Donaire did not accept his defeat by making an excuse that he did not study Rigo, and I think that's so stupid knowing Rigo is a decent fighter, a champion, and has more experience than him. Sometimes, I think that Donaire is way too confident that one day his career will be over.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 01, 2021, 05:41:54 AM

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

That's his stand and we must respect it since we have different outlook about on certain situations. And if I am Donaire I will do the same since our family is outside on this event so casimero shouldn't attack them since its really unprofessional.

But we don't know what's in mind of Casimero since maybe this is just part of marketing on his side and I still want this fight to happen.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

There could be people who don't understand Nonito for walking about from this fight, but he has to stand his ground and protect his family and that's what's important to him. Besides, he still has the name that can bring any fighter including Inoue. So he potential for a unification bout is still there (minus Casimero's belt). It was a tactical fight on the Rigo bout, if I'm not mistaken, Rigo went down, but he is ahead on the judges scorecard that's why he won.

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on June 30, 2021, 06:33:10 PM

This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...

Well Casimero is scheduled to fight Rigo, so that might happened. And we might see Donaire vs Inoue first before Inoue vs Casimero. Just sad to hear though that this fight is not going to happen because Donaire is walking out not just because of the VADA testing but the camp of Casimero attacking Rachel in public and Nonito deemed it as inappropriate and bullying.

I guess that's where this is all going, Donaire vs Inoue (rematch), Donaire would still lose the game, and Casimero vs Rigo and Casimero will win.
That's my prediction.

It will be Casimero vs Inoue in the end, and I don't know anymore who would win.

All the trashtalk is just making it interesting, but it's more interesting if they make it to the ring and stop talking.

Quote from: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.

Donaire is not getting any younger, he would go for the best opponent with big reward if he will win, and that is against Inoue.

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If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

This fight will gain attraction, the reason was very clear, Donaire cools off the fight because he believes he and his family got disrespected.

Now, there's a lot of challenge on Donaire, even Rigo challenge him, and said no trash talk, just pure fight.
Both Rigo and Inoue beat him, I think he will not win in a rematch, he just wants more money here.

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on June 30, 2021, 06:33:10 PM

This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...

Well Casimero is scheduled to fight Rigo, so that might happened. And we might see Donaire vs Inoue first before Inoue vs Casimero. Just sad to hear though that this fight is not going to happen because Donaire is walking out not just because of the VADA testing but the camp of Casimero attacking Rachel in public and Nonito deemed it as inappropriate and bullying.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 30, 2021, 10:54:14 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on June 30, 2021, 06:55:46 PM

Quote from: Hippocrypto on June 30, 2021, 06:33:10 PM

This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...

If its cancelled then theres nothing we can do and in that case then Inoue-Casimero fight might push through but others said it would be might on Donaire.

Don't know on why they do really make this big which in result into cancellation and fans of both fighters are really eager nor excited to see for these boxers to fight in the ring.

The potential winner could really have the chance on fighting the monster but it seems it is impossible as of this moment.

all because of the drug test. that's a good excuse to cancel.
inoue-casimero fight will be making more money than donaire-casimero so maybe they figured there is less Filipino who will watch the fight the fact that there's still covid. If they however do it somewhere else like MGM, they'd probably get some amount still from las vegas tourists. watching Donaire vs Casimero fight in Araneta might just be the last thing that a Pinoy will think of in the middle pandemic.

If this fight will be cancelled then for sure there is only one reason and that is they did not meet the attraction they want and lures no support from the boxing community.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on June 30, 2021, 06:55:46 PM

Quote from: Hippocrypto on June 30, 2021, 06:33:10 PM

This is really a big fight, and I bet on Donaire in the first place because he got the big edge on this match.
With his attitude and humbleness despite of their conflicts, I believed that there's really a deep emotions coming through when their fight is going to commence.
Donaire will really dump his punches and will show no mercy for Casimero, which will eventually made him learned from all the mistakes he made.

i dont know what it is going take for Donaire to push thru this fight as he already cancelled from his side? though no official announcements yet if this is indeed a shelved fight. what will happen to the upcoming Inoue fight here if this Donaire-Casimero will not push thru?
we can't do anything much but wait if this fight will still push thru...

If its cancelled then theres nothing we can do and in that case then Inoue-Casimero fight might push through but others said it would be might on Donaire.

Don't know on why they do really make this big which in result into cancellation and fans of both fighters are really eager nor excited to see for these boxers to fight in the ring.

The potential winner could really have the chance on fighting the monster but it seems it is impossible as of this moment.

all because of the drug test. that's a good excuse to cancel.
inoue-casimero fight will be making more money than donaire-casimero so maybe they figured there is less Filipino who will watch the fight the fact that there's still covid. If they however do it somewhere else like MGM, they'd probably get some amount still from las vegas tourists. watching Donaire vs Casimero fight in Araneta might just be the last thing that a Pinoy will think of in the middle pandemic.

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