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Topic: **Breaking news** Satoshi Nakamotos identity revealed - page 2. (Read 77448 times)

newbie
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Look, he never worked for bitcom, and he never communicated with bitcoins. He wants his free lunch, so let him go with this guy. End of story.
hero member
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To the moon!
Just in case Satoshi = Dorian, I changed my address for donations to the more Dorian simpathetic "1train".  Grin

And you are accepting donations for who exactly? You or Dorian?



I'm accepting donation from Satoshi to me. Got it?  Wink
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
This is standard investigative journalism, and I contend that she did a reasonable good job at it all things considered.  I've certainly seen much worse.

But where is that eagerness when it comes to revealing crime in the highest echelon? Compared to what's going on now, Watergate was a joke.

Welcome to Satoshigate.
hero member
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Just in case Satoshi = Dorian, I changed my address for donations to the more Dorian simpathetic "1train".  Grin

And you are accepting donations for who exactly? You or Dorian?

hero member
Activity: 581
Merit: 507
To the moon!
Just in case Satoshi = Dorian, I changed my address for donations to the more Dorian simpathetic "1train".  Grin
member
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so, he turned bitcoin over to darpa or nsa?  lol

all the bitcoin "anarchists" are secretly now funding military operation around the globe.  lol
legendary
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But where is that eagerness when it comes to revealing crime in the highest echelon?

A dog doesn't bite the hand that feeds it.

Those criminals own our "news" media and are basically just stenographers and attack dogs for it.
newbie
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If you don't like my lyrics, you can press fast forward!

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legendary
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This is standard investigative journalism, and I contend that she did a reasonable good job at it all things considered.  I've certainly seen much worse.

But where is that eagerness when it comes to revealing crime in the highest echelon? Compared to what's going on now, Watergate was a joke.
legendary
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This is standard investigative journalism, and I contend that she did a reasonable good job at it all things considered.  I've certainly seen much worse.

I'll agree I've seen much worse, but it looks to me as if she started out with an unswerving preconceived conviction that her theory was successful and then went out cherry-picking for "evidence" to support it, most of which is at best equivocal.

It would be silly to deny your suggestion outright.  At this point there is no way to know what either she or the editors cut out.  Maybe they will follow up since the debate seems a little more heated than they seem to have expected.  Newsweek also seems to be recently re-vamped so it's not possible to make much of past performance here.

It's probably better for everyone that there happens to be some number of questions lingering.  The stroke and potential memory loss is also convenient as even if Dorian is Satoshi and potentially has/had control of significant wealth in the form of BTC, it is damn difficult to remember various pass-phrases and such.  Especially if they've not been used for many years.

legendary
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This is standard investigative journalism, and I contend that she did a reasonable good job at it all things considered.  I've certainly seen much worse.

I'll agree I've seen much worse, but it looks to me as if she started out with an unswerving preconceived conviction that her theory was successful and then went out cherry-picking for "evidence" to support it, most of which is at best equivocal.
sr. member
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Suppose Dorian is the real Satoshi, and wants to direct attention away from himself. What will he do?

He'll post a message from a known Satoshi account, saying "I am not Dorian Nakamoto."

Think about that for a while

Suppose Dorian is not the real Satoshi. The real one wants to clear his name and posts from his account 'I am not Dorian Nakamoto.'
Think of that with your under the average IQ.
Leave the old man alone, he's in enough trouble as it is.

Both variants are plausible. I believe the second one. However, I also believe aes1 IQ is above average.
You're all implying the real Satoshi is either a bad liar, stupid, or wants to be caught. Why would he behave this obvious, using his real name, denying his identity, etc? He probably just want's to clear this guy's name before some lunatic attempts to murder him.

I am implying that I believe that "real one [Satoshi] wants to clear his [Dorian's] name and posts from his account".
I am also implying that "Satoshi is either a bad liar, stupid, or wants to be caught" is possible, although I would not interpret his words this way.
Believing something does not make it true!
member
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Stop the potato genocide!
Both the OP and Dorian occasionally walk with a limp. Just saying.
Or do they? http://youtu.be/rQv2-JCpKMk
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Both the OP and Dorian occasionally walk with a limp. Just saying.
legendary
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You cannot simply throw out theories and state them as facts in an article, exposing someone and putting their life in danger.


Well, yes one can.  It is more common than not, unfortunately.  Read a few posts on this forum and you'll see what I mean.

If you are implying that that is what the reporter of this story did, I'm going to call your reading comprehension sub-standard.  She left it as a theory that Dorian S is the creator of Bitcoin and related a lot of facts as she knew them many of which bolstered the theory that he is.

This is standard investigative journalism, and I contend that she did a reasonable good job at it all things considered.  I've certainly seen much worse.

full member
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Whoever wrote the article and whoever published it, in fact everyone
involved with the publishing of the article about Satoshi's real identity
owes this guy a huge fat apology and something to compensate.
This could've gotten way further out of hand than it did, and it's not ok.

I disagree.  The lady was for the most part doing her job.  Reporters cannot ignore interesting stories simply because of the possibility of uncomfortable and in some cases dangerous fallout.  She could have done her job better, but she could have done it a lot worse as well.  As far as I am concerned she doesn't have much more to apologize for than Satoshi (whether Dorian or not) has to the guy who thinks that Silk Road killed his drug addict brother (read, nothing.)  Shit happens.  Satoshi wrote a whitepaper and open-sourced some pretty powerful code with some intent to change the world.  He had to have been aware from day one that there would likely be some blow-back.

Another point is that it is better for this story to just get put out there than it would be for some private investigator working for some criminal element to arrive at the same conclusion.  The guy and his family are better off with things somewhat out in the open as I see it.  If he seems un-interesting to most people than, like I say, things will die down pretty quickly and he'll be more or less forgotten about which, so it seems, is exactly what he wants.


You cannot simply throw out theories and state them as facts in an article, exposing someone and putting their life in danger.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1011
Reverse engineer from time to time
I'm not done yet. There's this guy named Tribbles on some Star Trek forum, also Powered by SMF--like this one--who just so happened to post a pic gleaned from the imposter Satoshi's PhotoBucket of train #2427, the last year Captain Sisko was in Roswell, NM, on the exact same date (maybe within minutes of one another, depending on local times) that the Real Satoshi mined the Genesis Block.

Phinnaeus, here's something for you much more interesting than time coincidence:
There's an interesting story on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7354326

The shop's address was 1KfQKmME7bQm5AesPiizWk6h3JPUekwoBC, confirmed here
https://twitter.com/Ocrepes/status/83671795693133824
and here
http://o-crepes.com/
(small print at the bottom of the page).

The amount of the first transaction 2.2 BTC responds nicely with two crepes and the lemonade if one crepe was 1 BTC. The transaction id is:
https://blockchain.info/tx/1f78360b9a0c2c08e298f4e995a66f037b0933008710d8912e2f7076f27a4131

Can this be traced in any way to real Satoshi's coins?
Retracing some of the coins, they appear to come from a big fat wallet, likely belonging to MtGox. Might be that Satoshi purchased BTC from MtGox to avoid spending his own and revealing his identity, meaning Satoshi was a user at MtGox at the time.
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
Whoever wrote the article and whoever published it, in fact everyone
involved with the publishing of the article about Satoshi's real identity
owes this guy a huge fat apology and something to compensate.
This could've gotten way further out of hand than it did, and it's not ok.

I disagree.  The lady was for the most part doing her job.  Reporters cannot ignore interesting stories simply because of the possibility of uncomfortable and in some cases dangerous fallout.  She could have done her job better, but she could have done it a lot worse as well.  As far as I am concerned she doesn't have much more to apologize for than Satoshi (whether Dorian or not) has to the guy who thinks that Silk Road killed his drug addict brother (read, nothing.)  Shit happens.  Satoshi wrote a whitepaper and open-sourced some pretty powerful code with some intent to change the world.  He had to have been aware from day one that there would likely be some blow-back.

Another point is that it is better for this story to just get put out there than it would be for some private investigator working for some criminal element to arrive at the same conclusion.  The guy and his family are better off with things somewhat out in the open as I see it.  If he seems un-interesting to most people than, like I say, things will die down pretty quickly and he'll be more or less forgotten about which, so it seems, is exactly what he wants.

full member
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zx9zj/arthur_nakamoto_my_brother_dorian_satoshi_nakamoto/

^ Claims to be Dorian's brother. Posted an image of his license as proof. Arthur suggests that Dorian has memory issues and confirms that he suffered a stroke.

Hmm....

Even if that is the case, even more reason to leave dude alone. Clearly hes not healthy.
You're absolutely right. Time to let go of those wild speculations and leave the man alone and let him live his life.

It will blow over and be done within a few weeks.  The current goings on suck and they are regrettable, but a lot worse things have happened to almost every family.  Probably the longest term threat he'll face is Libertarians trying to get him to come to their events and spew some sort of political stuff.

As for the 'asshole' comment, some people would consider it almost a badge of honor in an odd way.  I didn't read Arthur's comments as being offensive or insensitive.  I read them as probably a statement of fact or possibly part of a scheme to get people off his back.  Dorian well may be an asshole.  Lots of people are and the cool thing about humanity is that there are all kinds of people.


Whoever wrote the article and whoever published it, in fact everyone
involved with the publishing of the article about Satoshi's real identity
owes this guy a huge fat apology and something to compensate.
This could've gotten way further out of hand than it did, and it's not ok.
hero member
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Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!


Just leave poor old Dorian alone!
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