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Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 138. (Read 277012 times)

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Everyone is panicking, but its been less than 24 hours...
Why don't we wait until this evening to see if we get our interest?

I agree it is strange and I myself am a bit worried, but I think its better to be positive about a situation than negative...
negativity attracts the wrong things..

I'd say give it the 48 hours they initially said on Monday night to respond to tickets, as they probably have a massive backlog.

If they do pull through, it will probably go bigger and better than ever Smiley

If you look at the deposits, there have been a few thousand bitcoins deposited in the past few days, and there are still deposits going through.
I think we should wait at least 48 hours before we open a "missing" case Tongue

just my opinions... hopefully we all get our BTC back Smiley
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and 'Adam" who quit (theoretically) this wonderful project is somewhere on the globe (most probably a nice island - recently bought with our btc)....drinking a cocktail...as I said: it is a case of keep dreaming Smiley...I won't believe anything until I will see my btc withdrawal...which does not seem will happen soon. Smiley...plus, I remember one message (point 6 from the acquisition email):

6. USD Deposits will no longer be accepted. USD Balances are currently being paid out directly to USD users as we speak. If you have a USD Balance, you will soon (if not already) receive a message from our new team with instructions on how to either convert your USD balance to Bitcoin, or withdraw it entirely. Some users have already been sent the value of their accounts to their respective e-currency account.

I am very curious: was anyone among us that actually was able to have his/her USD sent to their account?
We are talking only about BTCs here...no USD...it is strange why they will reimburse the USD - bank transfers are probably better monitored and you can be better tracked down...or am I wrong?

Is there a way we can recover our investments regarding BTC? Any constructive message is welcome...other critics are welcome as well Smiley

I tried to move a USD amount into btc-arbs, I requested twice for the wire information and never received anything, so I bought btc and gave up on the USD idea. I would be surprised if anyone had any USD there.
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Hi, proposal:

1. on blockchain the receiving wallet of any scammed account is red flagged.
2. Any transaction from a red flagged wallet into any other wallet, the destination wallet is red flagged as well.
3. The only way for the scammer to stop red flagging wallets is to stop making transactions from that wallet: money stolen will never be able to be used.
4. Someone writes a plugin for BTC client, whenever anyone newbie or not want to transfer money from their wallet to a destination wallet, a message alert says

"you are transfering money to a contaminated wallet. this means that either the person you are paying is a scammer or has received stolen money before"

ultimately Click I know what i'm doing to continue or the software simply rejects the transaction.

money stays in frozen wallet until technology and laws change to lock to the SOB in a dungeon an feed him the key

Problem of your proposal is centralization of power... e.g. person who decides which wallets are red-flagged will have so much power.
Also new deposit addressees can be and usually are generated for each new deposit. You can generate millions of them as you will. So tracking it this way is nonsense
newbie
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and 'Adam" who quit (theoretically) this wonderful project is somewhere on the globe (most probably a nice island - recently bought with our btc)....drinking a cocktail...as I said: it is a case of keep dreaming Smiley...I won't believe anything until I will see my btc withdrawal...which does not seem will happen soon. Smiley...plus, I remember one message (point 6 from the acquisition email):

6. USD Deposits will no longer be accepted. USD Balances are currently being paid out directly to USD users as we speak. If you have a USD Balance, you will soon (if not already) receive a message from our new team with instructions on how to either convert your USD balance to Bitcoin, or withdraw it entirely. Some users have already been sent the value of their accounts to their respective e-currency account.

I am very curious: was anyone among us that actually was able to have his/her USD sent to their account?
We are talking only about BTCs here...no USD...it is strange why they will reimburse the USD - bank transfers are probably better monitored and you can be better tracked down...or am I wrong?

Is there a way we can recover our investments regarding BTC? Any constructive message is welcome...other critics are welcome as well Smiley
full member
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Hi, proposal:

1. on blockchain the receiving wallet of any scammed account is red flagged.
2. Any transaction from a red flagged wallet into any other wallet, the destination wallet is red flagged as well.
3. The only way for the scammer to stop red flagging wallets is to stop making transactions from that wallet: money stolen will never be able to be used.
4. Someone writes a plugin for BTC client, whenever anyone newbie or not want to transfer money from their wallet to a destination wallet, a message alert says

"you are transfering money to a contaminated wallet. this means that either the person you are paying is a scammer or has received stolen money before"

ultimately Click I know what i'm doing to continue or the software simply rejects the transaction.

money stays in frozen wallet until technology and laws change to lock to the SOB in a dungeon an feed him the key
hero member
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I woke up to the exact same balance I went to bed with, which tells me this transfer from legacy to active account is not automated, so this checking (which isn't really taking place, but I'm playing along), is done manually. So to my previous post point: transfering these small amounts to everyone's account is high overhead and doesn't make sense.  What makes sense is: during the last outage, there was a run on the accounts, now in order to make up for it, the funds have been frozen and there is a mad scramble behind the scenes to try to make some of the money back needed to pay everyone.

If you are right that means we got Goxed!
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I woke up to the exact same balance I went to bed with, which tells me this transfer from legacy to active account is not automated, so this checking (which isn't really taking place, but I'm playing along), is done manually. So to my previous post point: transfering these small amounts to everyone's account is high overhead and doesn't make sense.  What makes sense is: during the last outage, there was a run on the accounts, now in order to make up for it, the funds have been frozen and there is a mad scramble behind the scenes to try to make some of the money back needed to pay everyone.
newbie
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newbie
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Best case scenario is we see a trickle of funds into active account until the whole thing goes under. We are like fish being fed little breadcrumbs, diving to the surface to take what we can before it stops.
hero member
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I think they will put some small amount on a daily basis to our btc account...and somewhere in future we will be able to see a part of our investment back...as regarding the arbitrage...interesting percentage for yesterday..and still in the transactions I see no revenue for yesterday. I started with 1.12xx btc in my legacy account and 0.0112 in my active balance..I asked for a withdrawal and I received that amount (without any fee) in a matter of hours..so for small amounts they move fast...and I woke up this morning and my active balance was showing 0.0027 btc - small fraction added (and my legacy account is 1.1099btc now)...maybe in 2 weeks I'll have 0.01 btc to withdraw...;lol..this is a keep on dreaming situation...I am confident I can kiss my investment goodbye from now on...let's hope for the best and expecting the worst Smiley still don't believe in the acquisition.

What I believe is our outage last was due to them reprogramming the site for this legacy/active balance scam.   As you say there isn't much we can do about except to try and get what btc out we can.     
newbie
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I think they will put some small amount on a daily basis to our btc account...and somewhere in future we will be able to see a part of our investment back...as regarding the arbitrage...interesting percentage for yesterday..and still in the transactions I see no revenue for yesterday. I started with 1.12xx btc in my legacy account and 0.0112 in my active balance..I asked for a withdrawal and I received that amount (without any fee) in a matter of hours..so for small amounts they move fast...and I woke up this morning and my active balance was showing 0.0027 btc - small fraction added (and my legacy account is 1.1099btc now)...maybe in 2 weeks I'll have 0.01 btc to withdraw...;lol..this is a keep on dreaming situation...I am confident I can kiss my investment goodbye from now on...let's hope for the best and expecting the worst Smiley still don't believe in the acquisition.
hero member
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Man - you're lucky..I requested a withdrawal of 1.12 btc with 2 hours later than you..now I am stucked with them on the legacy account and your transaction was completed...congrats Smiley

Ha!  My plan was to do the withdraw today.  I'm the real dope!
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The optimist in me believes this is a real takeover --- I've been through some with Private Investment companies that have seen what seems like real crazy things going on.

It's not Totally unheard of for an Investment group to not exist as an Internet presence.. sometimes these groups are Private Investors who just operate under a company name for one joint investment.

I am surprised that 'Adam' wouldn't be kept on for a transition period though....

newbie
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Man - you're lucky..I requested a withdrawal of 1.12 btc with 2 hours later than you..now I am stucked with them on the legacy account and your transaction was completed...congrats Smiley
newbie
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Guys, clarify this question please:

All the deposit are locked in the legacy funds, then it's imposible to withdrawal, true?


- Who have been able to withdrawal all his funds in legacy fund?
sr. member
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Here is what the admin of Money-News-Online, the biggest ponzi pusher on the planet has to say:

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BTCARBS – ON PROBLEM STATUS, NO FURTHER DEPOSITS ADVISED

The final piece of news for tonight is the unfortunate, but let’s be honest always inevitable conclusion of BTCArbs. While I know these things always happen eventually, there was no obvious indicator that BTCArbs would go so suddenly or under the circumstances that it has. There was a slowdown in activities over the Easter holiday weekend but that was fine, the admin kept us informed about that well in advance. It came as a complete surprise today that the program is quite clearly about to finish once and for all, especially as up until only yesterday, Monday, payments continued as normal. All that changed very suddenly today when the following update was sent, something bordering on the ridiculous in my own opinion and nothing short of bizarre. I’ll let you read it first before I tell you what I think of it myself, but the general gist of it is that BTCArbs has been taken over by somebody else (yeah, right!) and the current admin is no longer involved. And the new admin is going to do things differently, such as you know, possibly not paying you. I have to tell you though that personally my own deposit in BTCArbs was returned today without me ever actually asking for it and without the admin (whoever he may be!) contacting me. I can only assume in the absence of any formal communication that he doesn’t want me monitoring BTCArbs anymore and whatever stroke he’s planning to pull seems to prefer that I not be present to witness it or warn you about it. Please read the following update first:

(Here the MNO admin post the update from btc-arb website)

OK, so that there be NO misunderstanding here, BTCArbs has been moved to Problem Status on MNO, I suspect the admin will shortly be blaming/accusing me of trying to destroy the program and with it the accounts of the members, so I need to make this very clear to you all why I have done this. No matter what you hear from anybody else, BTCArbs is on Problem Status for this reason – there has been a fundamental change in the rules under which investors joined, and those investors were neither consulted nor warned about them before they were implemented. You could have joined BTCArbs as recently as this afternoon with the promise that you were free to withdraw your principal and leave at anytime, however this “promise” has now been withdrawn and your deposit is being held in limbo. The admin says this will be returned, but neglects to tell you when. Then again, HYIP admins say a lot of things. New deposits are naturally gratefully accepted, but tough luck if you thought the terms and conditions you joined under would actually be applied.

So it seems existing members deposits are to be frozen, pending some nonsense investigation which can last indefinitely. I admit my own deposit was returned, but this is now quite clear that as a monitor and basically a channel of communication between other members this was purely selective in order to take MNO out of the loop. Other members have not been so lucky and their deposits are being held while new money is still accepted. Believe what you like from the admin’s update/excuse, but the end result is the same – any further deposits in BTCArbs are not advised. I have of course contacted the admin, but he has yet to reply.
hero member
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I agree that this whole thing isn't looking good, but why all of the theatrics if they could just leave with the money? What's the point?

The point was mentioned a few times in the last few pages. To keep the site open and collect some more deposit from fools who are not doing their due diligence.

This isn't how companies are bought, it doesn't happen suddenly without giving customers time to decide what to do.  This is 100% scam.   No doubt about it.
sr. member
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I agree that this whole thing isn't looking good, but why all of the theatrics if they could just leave with the money? What's the point?

The point was mentioned a few times in the last few pages. To keep the site open and collect some more deposit from fools who are not doing their due diligence.
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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
The main thing is, Global Capital Alliance doesnt exist. If you search on google "Global Capital Alliance" (which has been mentioned on results page of btc arbs) you will find "Global Alliance Capital" (http://globalalliancecapital.com/)

That doesn't mean that they don't exist.   However it also doesn't mean it isn't a scam.



Sure, a company that claimed to invested in "bitcoin-industry" doesnt exist on the internet Wink


Im sure, Btc Arbs became acquainted with Global on one of these meetings with important representatives of bitcoin industry  Cool It happened in the lunch break at 12:30pm after discussions on the future of bitcoin. Wink
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