I suppose it could be easier to aggregate the week's profits and do it once a week or something, but it'd be nice if BTC-Arbs would clarify how he's doing things, so people would have some reasonable expectation of when things would happen. Make it a round every Friday or whatever.
Sorry, guys, a question, where from do you get the idea, that he´s generating profits from anywhere, let alone from arbitrageing. ( i could have missed that in this drawn out thread, point me to his post regarding this, please)
Couldn´t it be, that he´s just stretching the leftovers of our money with micropayments as small and looong as possible, counting on us
dying of old age before it runs out ? (Ponzi, anyone ?)
I guess he´s happy, that we are easily satisfied with bread crumbets, once a while.
The reason, he´s still here, is not because he´s a generous human, but because people came to close to his identity (see posts waay back in this thread somewhere).
So, i think he´s laughing his ass off, over our patience, and doesnt have to bother to give any clarification about the real situation, any plan, or commitment.
Its just: "more micropayments coming soon" , and then we: "thank you, thank you, thank you . . ."
Frustrating.
BTC-Arbs, what is your plan, any plan ? Talk to us, please !
(you know, business-plan, and cumbersome stuff like that)
The Whole Story - From BTC-Arbs ADMINI am aware that this post may fall upon deaf ears, given the mob mentality that seems to have developed as a fallout from BTC-Arbs, however I am here with the ultimate goal of resolving the issues that currently face everyone involved. Before I get into my future plans I feel it is necessary to share a bit of background information on BTC-Arbs.
Scam AllegationsBTC Arbs was not created to be a scam, and was never intended to rip off investors. Bitcoin arbitrage is possible and many Bitcoin users have realized this and have started arbitrage trading on their own. Bitcoin arbitrage trading took place and earnings were made. Anyone who has ever looked at bitcoinaverage dot com can confirm this. The prices vary greatly from exchange to exchange, and there are always variations on the price. Even today, you can buy Bitcoin on BTCE for $556 and then sell it immediately on Bitstamp for $572. That produces a 2.7% profit, which is closer to 2% after exchange fees and transfer costs.
BTC-Arbs was not created to scam users.
HackingIn early April, the BTC Arbs website was hacked. Numerous members can corroborate this fact. Many accounts were accessed and large amounts of Bitcoin were withdrawn. When this first started occurring, we were under the impression that it was due to users who had failed to secure their accounts with 2-factor authentication and who had been infected with a virus. It then became apparent that the website was not secure and the issue was impacting hundreds of accounts. HUNDREDS of Bitcoins were paid out that should not have been. To make matters worse, our incoming Bitcoin addresses were changed and hackers stole all of the incoming coins. When we tried to fix the issue, we just kept getting hacked over and over. Finally the problem was solved, but it was too late.
After the hacking, the plan was to use profits to re-liquidate the program, however people continued to withdraw, which ultimately lead to the overall failure and "reset". This can be referred to as a run on the bank.
100,000 Bitcoin AddressThose who believe that the 100,000 Bitcoin address belongs to BTC-Arbs are crazy. The total value of ALL BTC-Arbs accounts is more or less 500 Bitcoins. We weren't some billion dollar scam. The average user had less than 1 Bitcoin in their account. There are only 7 users with balances over 20 Bitcoins. There were less than 1000 accounts with Bitcoins in them.
Re-IncarnationUpon resetting the program, the plan was to pay back all users using future profits. The plan was going well and members of Bitcoin Talk can attest that withdrawals were being paid and that many users had begun receiving a good portion of their investments back. The plan was going well until angry users decided to:
- Hack the website further
- Initiate a prolonged DDOS attack against the server
- File a trademark complaint for the domain (WTF???)
- Freeze fiat accounts (preventing refunds)
ApologyI am VERY VERY VERY SORRY that the outcome of BTC-Arbs was what it was. I had dreams of running the first large and legitimate Bitcoin Arbitrage investment company that could have one day competed with banks and other global investment institutions. Instead, my dreams were destroyed and I now receive threats on a daily basis.
Moving ForwardI have created a plan to help us move forward. I would appreciate everyone's help in fulfilling it. If you have any suggestions on how to improve my plan please tell me.
The Plan1 - I have some Bitcoins left and I am still doing arbitrage with them.
2 - I want nothing more than to repay everyone. This won't be instant, but I want to do my best.
3 - I will continue paying refunds to everyone who lost money. In the interest of fairness, I think it is reasonable that until everyone is repaid their initial investments, that everyone only request the amount that was lost, not including profits.
4 - Please send your username, amount lost, Bitcoin address, username here (optional), details of your deposits, and any other information you can think of to
[email protected] or by PM here.
5 - I will be using this thread to keep track of everything that I do, including refunds.
BTC Arbs is NOT a scam. It was a failed investment that is now trying to make good on past promises.
This was his first post. You can go to his profile, and look through all of the messages he's posted to get all of the gory details.