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Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 19. (Read 277012 times)

sr. member
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Its been over a month since last payment. Any idea when next payment will be?

It varies a lot, depending (I assume) on how much money he's able to bring in through trading. I've gone six weeks between payments, before. I think he's going through the entire list over and over again, paying in sequence. Something like that.
newbie
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Its been over a month since last payment. Any idea when next payment will be?
   It's been 2 1/2 months for me. 

Congrats dude thats not what i asked.
legendary
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Its been over a month since last payment. Any idea when next payment will be?

   It's been 2 1/2 months for me. 
newbie
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Its been over a month since last payment. Any idea when next payment will be?
newbie
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A start to getting back the 2BTC I had invested.
legendary
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I've received one payment but its a start.

For what sir? Referrals?

The thread title is "btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds".
It shouldn't be hard to deduce what happened here and what that payment was.
sr. member
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Ace of ♠♠♠♠
I've received one payment but its a start.

For what sir? Referrals?
newbie
Activity: 15
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I've received one payment but its a start.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
I received a payment yesterday in the amount of .02btc bringing my credited amount to .12btc out of 1.5btc initial investment

Just thought I would report the positive as well as the negative to keep it balanced... Thanks!

I think we can all be pretty happy that BTC-Arbs is still here after all this time, paying people back...even if it's slow going. It sucks that I've missed the opportunity to use that money in other ways, to profit from the price movements or invest in more mining hardware with it, but at least I have a reasonable expectation of eventually seeing it returned. Even if it's going to be years, at this rate Wink
newbie
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I received a payment yesterday in the amount of .02btc bringing my credited amount to .12btc out of 1.5btc initial investment

Just thought I would report the positive as well as the negative to keep it balanced... Thanks!
member
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More payments in 5 minutes.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
0.05 BTC sent on September 5, and not a single satoshi since -- is anyone else in the same situation?

Still seems to be paying, there are just a lot of mouths to feed here and it's very slow going. I received another payment last week, I believe.
full member
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A.K.A The Black Marvel
0.05 BTC sent on September 5, and not a single satoshi since -- is anyone else in the same situation?

Yeah. Just relax.

Not freaking. Just making sure I didn't somehow drop off of his radar.

Just relax.

Red flag.

People need update. You should give it.
newbie
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Last payment on 8/17 just checking in.....
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
0.05 BTC sent on September 5, and not a single satoshi since -- is anyone else in the same situation?

Yeah. Just relax.

Not freaking. Just making sure I didn't somehow drop off of his radar.

Just relax.
hero member
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IRS treat bitcoin as property and is taxed the same way.
member
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Merit: 10
Any update about this? Were all paid with their refunds?
full member
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Merit: 100
0.05 BTC sent on September 5, and not a single satoshi since -- is anyone else in the same situation?

Yeah. Just relax.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
0.05 BTC sent on September 5, and not a single satoshi since -- is anyone else in the same situation?
newbie
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If any of you understand accounting, do your own taxes or have a personal accountant, I would recommend they write off the USD value investment amount of when the site went dead. File all repayments as other revenues and leave a disclaimer for it. The chance of  full repayment is much less then 50% so you need to write it off, debit bad debt expense for the full lost amount (excluding repayments for this entry) and not leave it as a receivables in your assets. GAAP would recommend you do the same, not sure about ISAB principle.

How would you classify it, when writing it off on taxes?

For personal taxes, just write it down as "investment loss", and include an attachment explaining that the bitcoin was bought as an investment, but subsequently lost or unintentionally destroyed. Do it the same way that you would if the bitcoin was sent to an incorrect address, or lost due to a hard drive failure without backup. The loss can offset your profit from conventional investments.

The key is to report the Bitcoin as the investment, and not BTC-Arbs as the investment, because then the IRS may try to check their records for a company named BTC-Arbs, and wonder how you invested in an investment that doesn't exist.  But feel free to identify BTC-Arbs as the reason for the loss.

The accounting required to "properly" report bitcoin profits is the reason that most people use brokers (Scottrade, E*Trade, etc)  to manage their investment information. Considering how unreportable Bitcoin is, I wouldn't be surprised if the IRS just accepted whatever claims you make, as long as you have some evidence to back it up - if they disagree, you can always file a corrected tax return and completely omit the bitcoin


If & When you get bitcoin back, you can claim it as "recovered losses", which would be considered a profit because you already wrote it off.

In the meantime, BTC-Arbs has a moral obligation to provide statements to customers identifying how much they have lost as of the end of this tax year. At the very least, this would provide some convenience for customers - much like how Gox was partially re-opened so users could see their account balances. This is one of the biggest problems with using unregistered and unregulated investment services. Losses ARE valuable, because they can reduce the taxes owed on other investment gains, but you need a way to show that the losses happened.
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