Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 78. (Read 276958 times)

Same here

LOL yeah sure

@BTC-ARBS: you just paid 3-4 people.....others with 1 BTC + did not got anything....
What are the plans?
I sent the email and pm 2 days ago, but I suppose you did not even opened yet. it is getting such a mess for 3-4rd time about the function of BTC-ARBS.
I m not a god believer, so I believe what people do and act....

i sent an e-mail friday and a follow-up pm yesterday.  no response to e-mail and no refunds yet.

amount lost: at least 10 BTC

I've sent a PM. Haven't used the email as they requested to not double send. I'll chase up after 7 days. I'm feeling hopeful about this. I am one of the small "investors" though with 0.193 to lose.

I've sent an e-mail yesterday and a PM today.

Hope he will payout to us all asap. I've only seen two people here posting that they yet received their initial deposit (0.1 and 0.05BTC) which are low amounts.

I too had a low amount deposited of 0.55BTC

I sent an email, but for transparency purposes here is my information for the Admin of BTC Arbs so he can refund my btc back to me. I will be following up this post with a PM to the admin as well.

My account username for BTC Arbs is MrMateria and my Legacy balance was a little over 1 btc at around 1.10 btc. Please send back my original 1 btc to 1P6kDQZutzDJaGW3UZ3Qz9CELEbR5btxz8

My deposits totaled to 1 BTC. I had more in the Legacy account remaining, about 1.08 btc. I am not asking for the profit back just my original 1 BTC.

Once again,

Username = MrMateria
Send 1 BTC BTC to 1P6kDQZutzDJaGW3UZ3Qz9CELEbR5btxz8

I will verify and confirm this payment as soon as it is received so that everyone on this forum can see that the admin is actually sending payments/refunds.

Some people have done well in BTC Trader because bitcoin had been declining in value or at least staying the same value related to the USD.   You put you BTC in and you took out more BTC because of the USD to BTC conversion.   Now that BTC has started to rally that game is probably over.   You will actually lose BTC if you put BTC in and pull BTC out.   That is because they do everything in USD.   

There are a bunch of strange things about BTC trader like that.   (However, it has stayed in business, I give you that point.)   

Strange things:
1) Forcing everyone into USD.  (It is great when BTC is declining, but is hurts in a rally.)
2) 120 day lock in periods, that is just very risky and pro-scam, even if they are real and doing real arbitrage.   
3) Only doing trading during their business hours in a 24x7 market.   Frankly that doesn't make sense and might not be true from the results they post.
4) The gains/losses seemed unrelated to actual arbitrage opportunities that occurred in any given day. 
5) Mining contracts and arbitrage?   That just seems very strange to mix those two.

What they do have going for them is that they have been in business for months and at least appear healthy.   Maybe they will go for months or years.   However, with the concerns listed, I still find it hard to believe they are actually doing arbitrage.    At least they are not open about what they are doing.   Then again BTC-Arbs wasn't open either.   

I choose BTC-Arbs because of those concerns and it did turn out to be a bad choice.   But with the BTC rally going on and the 120 day lock-in, I would have lost out on BTC-Trader too.   Bad timing is bad timing.   Only good thing is this wasn't a major investment for me, although I do hope to get a least my 1 BTC investment back.   

Nothing received today.

More refunds paid right now. If you have already sent a message please don't resend it. That makes it more confusing.

I am not a scammer. If I was, I would not be here.

Nothing from my side either.

2 e-mails, 1 PM.

5) The owner of Bitcoin Trader does not hide his identity and if you have a 20k or greater deposit you can actually meet with him in person and discuss other opportunities with him.

haha how many times have I heard that from HYIP admins over the years. Even if everything is legitimate and he's paying members with earnings, he is still operating an illegal scheme in most countries; unlicensed securities. That always ends well....   lol


LOL if you have 20k or more, meet me at high noon in room 22A of the Grand Moscow Hotel, I will share more money making opportunities with you. LOL. I can't believe what people will believe.

I still haven't received any refund yet...

I don't think you understood the reason why i mentioned that he might be doing arbitrage in the immediate. Matter of fact it doesn't need to be arbitrage, it could be anything that returns a daily profit.

Of course there never was any arbitrage trading going on, but you can bet your a** there IS something going on now though. I think he's either scrambling to earn profits on the ransomed bitcoin pool (in order to return the original principal investments back whilst keeping the profits for himself) or else he's skipping town with his family as we speak (posting once every other train-station to keep natives here calm).

My questions are:

For what reason after the site shutdown, instead of fading away quietly he chose to continue inflating the story even further on here? If he were a scammer then he has NO vested interest nor cause for profit in coming on here and start giving money back to people. Are you following what I'm saying now? Why does he need to keep people calm?

For what reason does he NEED to go through this elaborate procedure?

Maybe people are getting too close for comfort? Or else he believes that by earning some profit and then returning the original investments, that he would be in the clear somehow?

Or is he simply just a mad egomaniac scammer who believes he is creating a masterpiece of ponzi scams?

I'd love to know the real motive behind these seemingly incoherent sequence of actions.

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BTC: 1ASkYcaXt8H1E9oKX28A1ezRkxqo1bFdz7

I sent an email and 2 PM's.  Still no responce.

Pshhhht. Don't give it away! I bet some guys could still join btc trader!

Hint: There was never any arbitrage trading.

Right...and that isn't going to fly, with me. I am not interested in letting him use my money, anymore. Whatever he is going to do, it needs to be without my Bitcoin. I have had my chain jerked long enough.

There is plenty of evidence here. I saved a copy of the site the day after the whole "buyout" story was posted, including the BS story about a nonexistent hedge fund / investor. Also have a daily record of returns on an Excel spreadsheet, corroborated by the site backup.

Since he knows the jig is up he's biding his time to perform as much arbitrage as he can and keep the profit before returning your original funds back.

With a 1% profit daily on his alleged 500 bitcoins he'd double that amount in 70 days i.e. 2 months. Meaning you will be receiving trickles of transfers until he's made enough profit to call it a day. He's basically holding your pool of bitcoins on ransom until he earned enough profit for himself.

or something like that at least. The bigger your investment was with the site, the slower you'll get your money back.

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BTC: 1ASkYcaXt8H1E9oKX28A1ezRkxqo1bFdz7

Same here. I've sent several PMs and emails and no acknowledgment of any kind.