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September 20, 2014, 04:13:47 AM

I have a couple questions about this coin related to more basic fundamentals as opposed to any sort of "gimmick" type things.

1. Unlike a few other coins that have anonymity, even if they're not currently trustless, BTCD doesn't have any anonymity yet correct?

The Teleport is what I am working on now, https://github.com/jl777/btcd has the latest version I am debugging. it is not the official version yet.

The OP refers to this post regarding anon.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.740
That post seems to say it's an implementation of CN tech for anon. But was that dumped for Teleport now?


I have no idea what you're talking about.  Cryptonote was removed from the OP a long time ago once the details of the Teleport system became clear.

This is in the Op in big bold letters

**Anon-tech Development Underway**
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.740 Post#746

sr. member
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September 20, 2014, 04:00:12 AM

I have a couple questions about this coin related to more basic fundamentals as opposed to any sort of "gimmick" type things.

1. Unlike a few other coins that have anonymity, even if they're not currently trustless, BTCD doesn't have any anonymity yet correct?

The Teleport is what I am working on now, https://github.com/jl777/btcd has the latest version I am debugging. it is not the official version yet.

The OP refers to this post regarding anon.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.740
That post seems to say it's an implementation of CN tech for anon. But was that dumped for Teleport now?


I have no idea what you're talking about.  Cryptonote was removed from the OP a long time ago once the details of the Teleport system became clear.
legendary
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September 20, 2014, 03:15:01 AM
I am getting close!

https://github.com/jl777/btcd has the latest experimental version. If anybody can get it to compile for Windows or Mac, there is a readme in the libjl777 directory on how to build the libjl777. This needs to be done first then you can build the BitcoinDarkd

I cleaned up the API glue code and also streamlined the message passing to the bare minimum in the daemon code. Of course now the nodes dont know about all the other ones, but tomorrow I will fix this. I didnt want to just assume the daemon code is being efficient about message traffic, so I will manage all that in my code.

This will give the routing code a good workout so after that I think it will be ready for some larger deployment tests, eg. this weekend. If all goes well, I will be debugging the application level code starting early next week

James
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September 20, 2014, 03:08:51 AM
The CN tech was changed for Teleport a while ago, not sure why the OP hasnt been updated

blockchain pruning is not a priority now. if it becomes an issue in the future, we can always address it.

it is much more expensive to get 51% of the coin than 51% of its hashrate, so this "problem" is really something that is more of a propaganda thing against PoS by PoW camp. Clearly if anybody controls the majority of a coin, this is not good. With PoS the cost for this is to buy up over half the coin. Doing this will drive the price up and it just isnt economical. With PoW, even 51% of BTC hashpower is a small fraction of the cost of buying half the bitcoins.

For PoS coin, the hashrate is not very meaningful as there is no PoW. This is one of the appeals of PoS, it doesnt use up a bunch of power and CPU just to mine the next block. Each BTCD acts as a virtual miner.

James


I have a couple questions about this coin related to more basic fundamentals as opposed to any sort of "gimmick" type things.

1. Unlike a few other coins that have anonymity, even if they're not currently trustless, BTCD doesn't have any anonymity yet correct?

The Teleport is what I am working on now, https://github.com/jl777/btcd has the latest version I am debugging. it is not the official version yet.

The OP refers to this post regarding anon.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.740
That post seems to say it's an implementation of CN tech for anon. But was that dumped for Teleport now?


2. What has BTCD done to overcome the BTC blockchain bloat issue?
Not sure what exactly you mean here. the blockchain grows based on number of tx, currently less than quarter gig

The BTC blockchain is what, over 8G now? That's really not something regular people would find acceptable.  There are some other coins that have implemented some things to try and deal with that sort of issue and so I was asking if BTCD has done anything or if it suffers from the same problem, that over time it will become something unrealistic for "normal" users.  Is there an alternative? Like with BTC they have SPV right?


3. Is the PoS in BTCD basically that the richest coin holders control the blockchain or has it implemented some alternate system to alleviate that problem.
PoS is based on the stake, not sure why you would consider this a problem that needs to be alleviated. Initially the coins were PoW and we had over 3 petahash for a while with hundreds of miners, so the coin got distributed pretty widely.

I'm far from an expert on this stuff, but it's my understanding that there's a couple problems with PoS. The first being that those that hold the majority of the coins basically control the network. i.e. Like a 51% issue.  The other problem is that when people are staking, there's no economy going on. Sort of a catch 22 thing. You need people actually using the coins for it to gain wide spread acceptance and use, and yet you need people staking to secure the network. I recently read about some coin that was changing it in some way so that actually using the coin would increase your stake in some way.  There was also a paper out in June about Proof of Activity that I think tried to address these issues but it's a bit above my head at this point.  So basically I'm asking if BTCD has done anything like that or if it's the "typical" PoS.


4. How solid is the current hashrate in comparison to something like Peercoin? i.e. How secure is the network?
the amount of coins staking is what gives the security and it is hard to get an exact number on that but I estimate 75%+ of the coins are staking

After posting my questions I remembered the site bitinfocharts. If the data on there is correct, then the hashrate for BTCD is pretty low and I think there should be an effort to get more people staking or something.  If it's right, then BTCD has less hash than coins like XST and even LXC which I would think would be concerning.


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September 20, 2014, 03:01:49 AM

I have a couple questions about this coin related to more basic fundamentals as opposed to any sort of "gimmick" type things.

1. Unlike a few other coins that have anonymity, even if they're not currently trustless, BTCD doesn't have any anonymity yet correct?

The Teleport is what I am working on now, https://github.com/jl777/btcd has the latest version I am debugging. it is not the official version yet.

The OP refers to this post regarding anon.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.740
That post seems to say it's an implementation of CN tech for anon. But was that dumped for Teleport now?


2. What has BTCD done to overcome the BTC blockchain bloat issue?
Not sure what exactly you mean here. the blockchain grows based on number of tx, currently less than quarter gig

The BTC blockchain is what, over 8G now? That's really not something regular people would find acceptable.  There are some other coins that have implemented some things to try and deal with that sort of issue and so I was asking if BTCD has done anything or if it suffers from the same problem, that over time it will become something unrealistic for "normal" users.  Is there an alternative? Like with BTC they have SPV right?


3. Is the PoS in BTCD basically that the richest coin holders control the blockchain or has it implemented some alternate system to alleviate that problem.
PoS is based on the stake, not sure why you would consider this a problem that needs to be alleviated. Initially the coins were PoW and we had over 3 petahash for a while with hundreds of miners, so the coin got distributed pretty widely.

I'm far from an expert on this stuff, but it's my understanding that there's a couple problems with PoS. The first being that those that hold the majority of the coins basically control the network. i.e. Like a 51% issue.  The other problem is that when people are staking, there's no economy going on. Sort of a catch 22 thing. You need people actually using the coins for it to gain wide spread acceptance and use, and yet you need people staking to secure the network. I recently read about some coin that was changing it in some way so that actually using the coin would increase your stake in some way.  There was also a paper out in June about Proof of Activity that I think tried to address these issues but it's a bit above my head at this point.  So basically I'm asking if BTCD has done anything like that or if it's the "typical" PoS.


4. How solid is the current hashrate in comparison to something like Peercoin? i.e. How secure is the network?
the amount of coins staking is what gives the security and it is hard to get an exact number on that but I estimate 75%+ of the coins are staking

After posting my questions I remembered the site bitinfocharts. If the data on there is correct, then the hashrate for BTCD is pretty low and I think there should be an effort to get more people staking or something.  If it's right, then BTCD has less hash than coins like XST and even LXC which I would think would be concerning.

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September 20, 2014, 02:16:14 AM


a friend of mine tells people he is from canada when he travels...doesn't want people to know he is american

I would say that's the most cowardly and repulsive thing I have ever heard. Why pretend? Just tell your friend to move to Canada, America doesn't need people like that.

Americans have plenty to be proud of, as long as we can be humble about it. There are a lot of American a**holes but that's even more reason to be a better person and set a better example to the world when you travel to other countries. Don't pretend you're a Canadian or Australian, just be a better American than any foreigner would expect and win back respect with your actions and your attitude (be humble).

It is not cowardly and repulsive. If you had spent years living, traveling, working out of the US, you would know this is an entirely wise thing to do. You apparently have not, nevertheless you feel free to opinionate on it.

Living inside your bubble you do not understand that to the rest of the world, the American overreach since 9/11 has become very real, and unavoidable. Several mideast wars for dubious reasons, FACTA growing like an octopus across the world financial system, the NSA back dooring into the private lives of non US citizens through hardware, Skype, Facebook, deep ocean internet cable monitoring and anything else the they can think of - this is the day to day experience of the US for people who are not Americans. It is not a matter of a 'some americans being a-holes'. It is a matter of a complacent and once-free citizenry being apathetic to a hollowing out of their own constitution, and a lethargic acceptance of their government trampling on the natural human rights, privacy and independence of others across the world.

I recommend the book "Dirty Wars" by Jeremy Shahill. In which American tax dollars end with an intentional drone strike on a 16 year old boy. This is the America many are seeing from the outside and you are not.
legendary
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September 20, 2014, 02:14:10 AM
I have a couple questions about this coin related to more basic fundamentals as opposed to any sort of "gimmick" type things.

1. Unlike a few other coins that have anonymity, even if they're not currently trustless, BTCD doesn't have any anonymity yet correct?
The Teleport is what I am working on now, https://github.com/jl777/btcd has the latest version I am debugging. it is not the official version yet.

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2. What has BTCD done to overcome the BTC blockchain bloat issue?
Not sure what exactly you mean here. the blockchain grows based on number of tx, currently less than quarter gig

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3. Is the PoS in BTCD basically that the richest coin holders control the blockchain or has it implemented some alternate system to alleviate that problem.
PoS is based on the stake, not sure why you would consider this a problem that needs to be alleviated. Initially the coins were PoW and we had over 3 petahash for a while with hundreds of miners, so the coin got distributed pretty widely.

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4. How solid is the current hashrate in comparison to something like Peercoin? i.e. How secure is the network?
the amount of coins staking is what gives the security and it is hard to get an exact number on that but I estimate 75%+ of the coins are staking

legendary
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Well hello there!
September 20, 2014, 01:09:51 AM
James, get back to coding please. You're not making any sense with the uninformed anti-US rants   Grin

jl777 anti-US rants make sense to me

Only the intellectual people can see what's going on inside the USA. Most are much too busy, misinformed, or don't care.

Always need to distinguish between American people, who for the most part are nice people, and American global influence, which for the most part is very damaging now, and will only get worse. I'm far more scared of USA than China or Russia. Most Americans are unaware of how the world sees them, and get a rude shock when they travel to other countries and see how the rest of 'US' see them. A bit like that movie, 'the truman show', when the main character realises his whole life is totally fabricated ... 'the american dream'.

a friend of mine tells people he is from canada when he travels...doesn't want people to know he is american
Friend of mine does the same thing by basically only claiming his Australian citizenship when he travel's abroad (particularly to the middle east).  He has dual citizenship and says that 9 times out of 10 he goes with Aussie persona.  Said he even cranks up his aussie accent a bit to make it seem more authentic (not that he needs too, mofo sounds like Crocodile dundee to begin with) Smiley
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September 20, 2014, 12:51:36 AM
I have a couple questions about this coin related to more basic fundamentals as opposed to any sort of "gimmick" type things.

1. Unlike a few other coins that have anonymity, even if they're not currently trustless, BTCD doesn't have any anonymity yet correct?

2. What has BTCD done to overcome the BTC blockchain bloat issue?

3. Is the PoS in BTCD basically that the richest coin holders control the blockchain or has it implemented some alternate system to alleviate that problem.

4. How solid is the current hashrate in comparison to something like Peercoin? i.e. How secure is the network?
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September 20, 2014, 12:05:32 AM
James, get back to coding please. You're not making any sense with the uninformed anti-US rants   Grin

jl777 anti-US rants make sense to me

Only the intellectual people can see what's going on inside the USA. Most are much too busy, misinformed, or don't care.

Always need to distinguish between American people, who for the most part are nice people, and American global influence, which for the most part is very damaging now, and will only get worse. I'm far more scared of USA than China or Russia. Most Americans are unaware of how the world sees them, and get a rude shock when they travel to other countries and see how the rest of 'US' see them. A bit like that movie, 'the truman show', when the main character realises his whole life is totally fabricated ... 'the american dream'.

a friend of mine tells people he is from canada when he travels...doesn't want people to know he is american
hero member
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September 19, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
James, get back to coding please. You're not making any sense with the uninformed anti-US rants   Grin

jl777 anti-US rants make sense to me

Only the intellectual people can see what's going on inside the USA. Most are much too busy, misinformed, or don't care.

you know this country is screwed when the NFL domestic dispute garbage is the front page story. football player beats his wife. meanwhile, the government directs an army that kills hundreds of thousands of "terrorists" each year. now I'm on the NSA watch list
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September 19, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
James, get back to coding please. You're not making any sense with the uninformed anti-US rants   Grin

jl777 anti-US rants make sense to me

Only the intellectual people can see what's going on inside the USA. Most are much too busy, misinformed, or don't care.
newbie
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September 19, 2014, 08:30:41 PM
James, get back to coding please. You're not making any sense with the uninformed anti-US rants   Grin

Ever thought of contributing something besides requesting ONE individual to do something...uninformed american? If you want to help...learn how to code and don't troll.

Disclosure I'm American.

After reviewing your posts I see you are not a troll. Patience young grasshopper.  Wink
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September 19, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
James, get back to coding please. You're not making any sense with the uninformed anti-US rants   Grin

Ever thought of contributing something besides requesting ONE individual to do something...uninformed american? If you want to help...learn how to code and don't troll.

Disclosure I'm American.
legendary
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September 19, 2014, 07:29:29 PM
The latest shift for the BitcoinDark Multipool paid out over 83 BTCD.

Cheers!
legendary
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September 19, 2014, 07:29:20 PM
Hey guys, I still do have a problem with block 100675 :-(
Got youre user.conf, starting as admin, deleted wallet expect of wallet.dat, its not getting trough that block :-(
Any ideas? Any help? I need to work with that wallet, got that problem for some days now :-(
make sure to backup the wallet.dat!
it is all the other files that need to be cleared out (other than the .conf)
then restart and it shouldnt get stuck
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September 19, 2014, 07:10:38 PM
Hey guys, I still do have a problem with block 100675 :-(
Got youre user.conf, starting as admin, deleted wallet expect of wallet.dat, its not getting trough that block :-(
Any ideas? Any help? I need to work with that wallet, got that problem for some days now :-(
full member
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September 19, 2014, 06:54:46 PM
James, get back to coding please. You're not making any sense with the uninformed anti-US rants   Grin
legendary
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September 19, 2014, 06:11:59 PM
it boggles my mind that the USA is able to strongarm the entire world to enforce a policy whose assumption is that criminals never pay their utility bills!


LOL! Utility bill is a pretty common proof of address verification in the US. Is has nothing to do with whether you paid it or not.

oh, now it makes perfect sense to me, the assumption is that criminals dont have addresses!

do you know that in many countries only the actual owner of a property is allowed to pay the utility bills. So, only property owners are able to have any utility bills in their name. This totally disenfranchises people who are renting or traveling a lot

plus it has no actual deterrent effect. If anybody really believes that a criminal organization cannot get utility bills, they are not thinking right.

The question becomes why this ruse to force people to disclose such private details to anonymous govt workers?

James
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September 19, 2014, 05:58:47 PM
it boggles my mind that the USA is able to strongarm the entire world to enforce a policy whose assumption is that criminals never pay their utility bills!


LOL! Utility bill is a pretty common proof of address verification in the US. Is has nothing to do with whether you paid it or not.
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