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legendary
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October 29, 2015, 08:42:56 PM
It may sound superficial, but besides it's real technical potential, Bitcoindark will benefit a lot through it's name and association with Bitcoin when it comes to a rising BTC-price and maybe a Bitcoin-Hype again.

Current price:  $ 0.931853   
Marketcap: $ 1,154,090
Supply: 1,238,489   

If we look at Dash as biggest Anon-Comeptitor:

Current price: $ 2.42   
Marketcap: $ 14,343,811
Supply: 5,939,220   

And the highest marketcap of Dash was > $ 50 Mio


So... there is much potential. It just needs ongoing Development and that doesn't seem to be a problem.
hero member
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October 29, 2015, 02:53:49 PM
My watch is ticking BitcoinDark  Grin
I will try to improve it soon.

legendary
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October 29, 2015, 02:10:27 PM
Hi jl777,

can you tell us please the timeplan for the going live of teleportation.

I'm new to BTCD and sure, that Instantdex and Pangea are already two good reasons to buy BTCD.

Will the Teleport function look like an additional Button? In Dash they have a mixer button in the wallet, will it be like this?
Jumblr implements coinshuffle for the mixing and it will need a button to start the shuffling, the GUI details are not done yet, especially as I dont do the GUI.

at the low level Jumblr allows to verifiably shuffle your input to your output without any trace on the blockchain.

Teleport allows to send packets in a way that makes it very hard to find your IP.

Additionally peggy will allow locking funds and making them reappear in a different account.

So, an Alice -> Bob -> Charlie sequence would look like:

Alice -> blockchain .... blockchain -> Charlie

notice Bob is not in the picture at all, as he sends an invoice to Alice using telepathic packet, but even though he is not on the blockchain, he totally controls the funds until it is sent to charlie.

If alice is using Jumblr, then it makes the connection to Charlie blurred.

However before any of this shuffling and teleporting will have a strong privacy effect, we need a lot of tx happening all the time, eg. pangea. So it is a wholistic solution.

Pangea and InstantDEX are in testing, with pangea already working as a chrome app. I have a few instantdex bugs to fix and some features needed for pangea, like multitable and disconnect recovery. After that it will be peggy integration, which allows real money betting in pangea, and will also create a steady tx flow for the privacy to have much better effect.

Since I am doing things that are never done before, I cannot predict exact timeframe. But with the hard part of getting it to work in chrome done, it is a matter of getting the time to finish connecting things together.

James
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methodic madness
October 29, 2015, 02:01:23 PM
Hi jl777,

can you tell us please the timeplan for the going live of teleportation.

I'm new to BTCD and sure, that Instantdex and Pangea are already two good reasons to buy BTCD.

Will the Teleport function look like an additional Button? In Dash they have a mixer button in the wallet, will it be like this?
legendary
Activity: 1176
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October 29, 2015, 01:15:01 PM
I have BOUGHT a lot of supernet and BTCD over the months and am a net purchaser, so rather than exiting, i am entering more and more.

James

Dev talking up his bullish book = biggest red flag evar.

And it's not even the acute unprofessionalism at hand that is the biggest problem, but rather the inference the dev generally doesn't know how to be professional.

Dash's scam-master did the same thing last month, posting his "triple bull sign" TA right before the price went to shit and never came back.

You accused him of dumping.

I accused him of "talking up his bullish book" because that what he just did.
I was responding to false accusations that I have been dumping. It is a fact that I have purchased SuperNET and BTCD. Sorry if such facts make you go all crazy and make you post big red letters

so any actual content to your trolling? or is it the same as always. What is your feeling about a chrome app that has SuperNET ported into it?

And I am not posting any TA buy signals, you are confusing me with someone else. I just stated a fact. It is up to the reader to decide to buy or no. But I disprove that I am dumping/exiting, etc. and you prove that XMR is in big trouble

James
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
October 29, 2015, 12:58:38 PM
I have BOUGHT a lot of supernet and BTCD over the months and am a net purchaser, so rather than exiting, i am entering more and more.

James

Dev talking up his bullish book = biggest red flag evar.

And it's not even the acute unprofessionalism at hand that is the biggest problem, but rather the inference the dev generally doesn't know how to be professional.

Dash's scam-master did the same thing last month, posting his "triple bull sign" TA right before the price went to shit and never came back.

You accused him of dumping.

I accused him of "talking up his bullish book" because that what he just did.
sr. member
Activity: 255
Merit: 251
October 29, 2015, 12:55:02 PM
I have BOUGHT a lot of supernet and BTCD over the months and am a net purchaser, so rather than exiting, i am entering more and more.

James

Dev talking up his bullish book = biggest red flag evar.

And it's not even the acute unprofessionalism at hand that is the biggest problem, but rather the inference the dev generally doesn't know how to be professional.

Dash's scam-master did the same thing last month, posting his "triple bull sign" TA right before the price went to shit and never came back.

You accused him of dumping.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
October 29, 2015, 12:49:37 PM
I have BOUGHT a lot of supernet and BTCD over the months and am a net purchaser, so rather than exiting, i am entering more and more.

James

Dev talking up his bullish book = biggest red flag evar.

And it's not even the acute unprofessionalism at hand that is the biggest problem, but rather the inference the dev generally doesn't know how to be professional.

Dash's scam-master did the same thing last month, posting his "triple bull sign" TA right before the price went to shit and never came back.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
October 29, 2015, 11:33:24 AM
The following are the install instructions for devs:

launch chrome with  --allow-nacl-socket-api=localhost command line arg

git clone https://github.com/jl777/SuperNET_API
cd SuperNET_API
tools/httpd.py -C . -p 7777 &
now you can go to http://localhost:7777

the above is what it takes to install the dev version of the chrome app
******

for end users it is a matter to click on a chrome store URL: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/supernet-api/bfofcmnhfkdohmmfpakhfpfapeddigbl/related

that is from 10 days ago but it shows how easy it is to install. it really is one click to install and then another to run it. Oh, it is cross platform, wherever chrome runs

not sure about android or iOs yet, but there are build instructions for them: https://developer.chrome.com/apps/chrome_apps_on_mobile

if anybody is up for seeing if it works, that would be great


James
legendary
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October 29, 2015, 11:14:01 AM
James, I still remember your "I am not made of cheese" statement Grin
I can confirm that I am still not made of cheese
hero member
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October 29, 2015, 10:58:53 AM
James, I still remember your "I am not made of cheese" statement Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1000
October 29, 2015, 10:04:01 AM
I have been helping with pangea by creating and integrating the GUI as well as a lobby. Having spent time with the building and running the code, as well as playing with the new chrome extension, I am absolutely blown away with how supernet is coming together. The implementation of Pangea is currently using every feature that has been coded in supernet over the past year in order to work, p2p orderbooks, p2p communications, decentralized state machines (I can imagine this tech can be used to create any kind of p2p game where a game or map can be randomly generated across nodes), smart contracts, plugins... the list goes on and on... What is happening behind the scenes is absolutely staggering and actually seeing the code all working together in a coherent package is more then enough proof that jl is not running an exit scam. He is working WAY to hard on producing code unlike I have ever seen before. It simply makes no sense. Build the code and actually run it for yourself instead of just blabbing your ignorant mouths, there is no way you can deny the progress that is being made here if you actually take the slightest bit of effort to look into it.
sr. member
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October 29, 2015, 09:52:42 AM
In case you missed it,

http://api.supernet.org/

Also, claiming that BTCD is just a copy/paste is patently ridiculous as James pointed out. I would add that it also has the most comprehensive build process of any coin I've seen, with building a Windows executable JUST as easy as building for Linux.

Chrome app is already changing the game in development, anyone can make a contribution regardless of OS.

Please take your trolling elsewhere.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
October 29, 2015, 09:26:26 AM
BitcoinDark is down over 43% this month. What happend?  Huh

BitcoinDark is a project that will be obsolete before it is (if ever) finished.

Bitcoin has Confidential Transactions on the way.  Monero has Compact Confidential Transactions on the way.

BitcoinDark, besides having a stupid and unforgivably misleading name, is completely useless.

There is nothing to do with BTCD except send them in and out of SuperNet all day.

Investors want RESULTS, not empty PROMISES to finish VAPORWARE.

Ya man, it's been obvious for months that BTCD is a complete scam:

(1)  It's still the same copy/paste coin that any competent crypto Dev could launch in a few days.

(2)  Zero improvements or even a single upgrade since launch in mid-2014.

(3) "Teleport" is just a buzzword in an ancient "dark paper"... unimplemented and will never be peer reviewed.

(4)  The "dividends" are fake...
jl777 pulled at least couple of million $$$ from NXT AE "investors"... then pays you stupid mooks $50, if that.

(5)  InstantDEX doesn't work and nobody understands it... so blaming it on "lack of testers" is laughable.

(6)  Pangea poker is the biggest Red Flag...
The design is something that would be laughed off the web in 2002...
Only a complete idiot would play "poker" with ZERO protection in place against collusion.

(7)  You guys are "investing" in  buzzwords and an Excuse Machine....
While jl777 sits in Riga, Latvia assuming a staunch NATO ally would never extradite him to Lower Manhattan.

tl;dr

You guys are watching a very poorly executed Exit Strategy... it would be infinitely smarter to just disappear.

(1) github.com/jl777/btcd is the development repo, you must be looking at the laowais repo

(2) api.supernet.org is just a subset of the instantdex API. it seems to exist and a decentralized trading api that can also do cross market arbitrages would seem to be some sort of improvement over the baseline

(3) the github.com/jl777/btcd has a working teleport function, though it has been improved from the darkpaper description, due to peggy. Also jumblr is achieving a proof of concept stage.

(4) actually I am not paying out any dividends yet as the revenue streams are not yet. However there are several initiatives that are paying dividends

(5) i am sorry you are not able to understand api.supernet.org, but that does not mean that instantdex does not work. there are certainly some bugs to fix and i will

(6) pangea implements cryptographically verifiable deck shuffling and dealing. Since you are incapable of understanding instantdex (which is algorithmically simpler than pangea) I doubt you are able to understand pangea. Now pangea is bandwidth intensive, so it is limited to one game per node. This provides a certain amount of protection against one player setting up many players on a single PC. Against someone who has 6 computers and 6 internet connections, it seems that no online system is able to do anything directly. But for multitable play, there will be random table balancing. Additionally the pangahosts (who get to charge a rake) can provide whatever level of collusion prevention by manually checking what accounts are playing or whatever means they want. Since there is currently no cryptographic decentralized poker, it seems getting that working first is kind of key. Then a layer to minimize collusion can be worked on.

Also, I have BOUGHT a lot of supernet and BTCD over the months and am a net purchaser, so rather than exiting, i am entering more and more. The vast majority of the funds raised are still in the SuperNET accounts, it hasnt gone anywhere all these months and its not going anywhere. For BTCD Azeh is the one who keeps the SN balance.

Recently I have been dealing with the user adoption issue. I have ported SuperNET core into a chrome app. It is still a bit rough, but github.com/jl777/SuperNET_API is the repo for that effort. There wont be any need to install anything once this is done, just click and install a chrome app.

Last year I integrated nanomsg into SuperNET and recently bitcoin has integrated zeromq into bitcoin. nanomsg is the next generation of zeromq created by the devs of zeromq. I predict that in a year, most all of the popular crypto will be in the form of chrome apps, especially since the SuperNET_API is a ready made development enviroment with full crypto support, from gen1, curve25519 and even quantum resistant encryption tech.

Does this sound like a copy/paste job? I mean really. I can understand complaints about delays, but to say BTCD is copy/paste, well, that is quite ridiculous.

James
hero member
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October 29, 2015, 08:20:27 AM
Yeah Zer0Sum you're right and I wish to thank you for the great insight... now please calm down and take a deep breath, I'm going to make a call, and soon friends will come to help. You'll be fine and you'll enjoy the place where they'll take you. There you can fight all the scam and save all us poor noobs from being cheated  Cheesy

legendary
Activity: 1588
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2015, 09:50:04 PM
BitcoinDark is down over 43% this month. What happend?  Huh

BitcoinDark is a project that will be obsolete before it is (if ever) finished.

Bitcoin has Confidential Transactions on the way.  Monero has Compact Confidential Transactions on the way.

BitcoinDark, besides having a stupid and unforgivably misleading name, is completely useless.

There is nothing to do with BTCD except send them in and out of SuperNet all day.

Investors want RESULTS, not empty PROMISES to finish VAPORWARE.

Ya man, it's been obvious for months that BTCD is a complete scam:

(1)  It's still the same copy/paste coin that any competent crypto Dev could launch in a few days.

(2)  Zero improvements or even a single upgrade since launch in mid-2014.

(3) "Teleport" is just a buzzword in an ancient "dark paper"... unimplemented and will never be peer reviewed.

(4)  The "dividends" are fake...
jl777 pulled at least couple of million $$$ from NXT AE "investors"... then pays you stupid mooks $50, if that.

(5)  InstantDEX doesn't work and nobody understands it... so blaming it on "lack of testers" is laughable.

(6)  Pangea poker is the biggest Red Flag...
The design is something that would be laughed off the web in 2002...
Only a complete idiot would play "poker" with ZERO protection in place against collusion.

(7)  You guys are "investing" in  buzzwords and an Excuse Machine....
While jl777 sits in Riga, Latvia assuming a staunch NATO ally would never extradite him to Lower Manhattan.

tl;dr

You guys are watching a very poorly executed Exit Strategy... it would be infinitely smarter to just disappear.
hero member
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methodic madness
October 28, 2015, 06:41:16 PM

There is no button lol !
The problem everyone got in here is that there is almost no real gui for Windows.. you have to know linux and how to compile if you want to try out Teleport.


I did compile it on linux. So far ok - wallet is working!

Basic function + Coin control - ok!

Staking - ok!


But where is the Teleport? Sorry, if this is a stupid question, couldn't see any teleport function in a practical way yet.

sr. member
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legendary
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October 28, 2015, 03:56:47 PM
BitcoinDark is down over 43% this month. What happend?  Huh

BitcoinDark is a project that will be obsolete before it is (if ever) finished.

Bitcoin has Confidential Transactions on the way.  Monero has Compact Confidential Transactions on the way.

BitcoinDark, besides having a stupid and unforgivably misleading name, is completely useless.

There is nothing to do with BTCD except send them in and out of SuperNet all day.

Investors want RESULTS, not empty PROMISES to finish VAPORWARE.

Devs want TESTERD, not hot AIR by keyboard worriors.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
October 28, 2015, 02:38:45 PM
BitcoinDark is down over 43% this month. What happend?  Huh

BitcoinDark is a project that will be obsolete before it is (if ever) finished.

Bitcoin has Confidential Transactions on the way.  Monero has Compact Confidential Transactions on the way.

BitcoinDark, besides having a stupid and unforgivably misleading name, is completely useless.

There is nothing to do with BTCD except send them in and out of SuperNet all day.

Investors want RESULTS, not empty PROMISES to finish VAPORWARE.
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