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Topic: BTCDice.io - New dice site, fast rolls, instant withdrawals - INVEST - page 3. (Read 2068 times)

legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1106
So the site is still down? I visited it around 6 hours ago while it was down, just checked it again now but still down. Is this site finally closing down because there is not much traffic after they offer daily wagering contest? It is just very unfortunate if the site is closing down too early just because unable to gain attraction from people in less than two week after the first contest. Hopefully I'm wrong, maybe the site is working on some improvement and will come back anytime soon.


Also down here

yep down and not a thing coming from admin in terms of information
the site went down yesterday when I wanted to check the contest results , thought it was Cloudflare acting up
but today it is still down , so I guess admin got disappointed in the project and decided to close it down
a note here saying : we are closing , or we are down for maintenance would have been appreciated though
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 512
So the site is still down? I visited it around 6 hours ago while it was down, just checked it again now but still down. Is this site finally closing down because there is not much traffic after they offer daily wagering contest? It is just very unfortunate if the site is closing down too early just because unable to gain attraction from people in less than two week after the first contest. Hopefully I'm wrong, maybe the site is working on some improvement and will come back anytime soon.


Also down here
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
So the site is still down? I visited it around 6 hours ago while it was down, just checked it again now but still down. Is this site finally closing down because there is not much traffic after they offer daily wagering contest? It is just very unfortunate if the site is closing down too early just because unable to gain attraction from people in less than two week after the first contest. Hopefully I'm wrong, maybe the site is working on some improvement and will come back anytime soon.
legendary
Activity: 2842
Merit: 1130
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Casinos need whales to continue their operations, do you really think that all those people who bet less than 0.1 are making the casinos profits?

There is no way they could survive with that, a casino has a ton of expenses if they are running legitimately and that means they need to keep making a ton of money as well, there is no way they could just try to barely survive, this is a business and they need profits and they need it for times that won't have too much whales as well or times when people get lucky and win, so they need to not only pay for everything and also profit but also have enough extra to put aside. Hence, whales will always be their target since they can lose a lot more in a minute than hundreds and even thousands of small timers.
sr. member
Activity: 966
Merit: 260
Unfortunately, in gambling and especially in crypto is very hard to standardise for the wagered amount to ensure whales don't always have the advantage simply by wagering more bets. I suppose this issue is a difficult one to address since the casinos would want players with high wagering bets. I feel if they control for this then they may risk the chance of losing the big players as these would then be disadvantaged.

This is what I'm thinking ATM, do other people have other suggestions?
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 512
Good to see that the wagering contest continues after the first one ended few days ago. I have suggestion for the contest related to its timeframes because the ending time may not be ao friendly for some timezone. So I think you should change the timeframe as well, at least give opportunity to those who live in area where the last hours of the contest is during their sleeping time.

No matter how well are your timeframe setting, the result will be just the same. OP does not want to let players in the last minute snipe everything away from the people who join in the first time they start the contest. OP want everything to have a  fair chance among the players. So in order to make it fair, their team will do their best. Mean while you can start wagering here when it still around 60k bits

Even if the owner does not want players snipping in the last minutes, what can they do about it? This kind of activity will always happen in any wagering contest.
My main idea is the same, waiting for the last minutes/hour to see the whole situation on the leaderboard. By this way I and most players will be able to calculate whether it will worth to wager and compete in the last minutes or not. I also think that sniping in the last minutes is not something unfair as it is like a strategy to be used on the contest. I wonder how it can be unfair just because the winners plays in the last minutes and how the site will do to make it fair like what you say.


They must do something that will be fair to players as well, like I said before that they should do something like winning percentage events which even big whale can't calculate the outcome as well. They can only pray for their luck. But still if you compare to the wager amount it is much more ineffective way because house will always want players to burn btc as much they can to get profit but if we are talking about the fair things for players then this might be the best way

Maybe some calculation which compares the deposited amount and the wagering with that. With such calculation it's more fair because a whale have even big chance as a low roller.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1008
Good to see that the wagering contest continues after the first one ended few days ago. I have suggestion for the contest related to its timeframes because the ending time may not be ao friendly for some timezone. So I think you should change the timeframe as well, at least give opportunity to those who live in area where the last hours of the contest is during their sleeping time.

No matter how well are your timeframe setting, the result will be just the same. OP does not want to let players in the last minute snipe everything away from the people who join in the first time they start the contest. OP want everything to have a  fair chance among the players. So in order to make it fair, their team will do their best. Mean while you can start wagering here when it still around 60k bits

Even if the owner does not want players snipping in the last minutes, what can they do about it? This kind of activity will always happen in any wagering contest.
My main idea is the same, waiting for the last minutes/hour to see the whole situation on the leaderboard. By this way I and most players will be able to calculate whether it will worth to wager and compete in the last minutes or not. I also think that sniping in the last minutes is not something unfair as it is like a strategy to be used on the contest. I wonder how it can be unfair just because the winners plays in the last minutes and how the site will do to make it fair like what you say.


They must do something that will be fair to players as well, like I said before that they should do something like winning percentage events which even big whale can't calculate the outcome as well. They can only pray for their luck. But still if you compare to the wager amount it is much more ineffective way because house will always want players to burn btc as much they can to get profit but if we are talking about the fair things for players then this might be the best way
copper member
Activity: 60
Merit: 0
1 hour and 45 minutes left of todays contest at https://btcdice.io

legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1162
www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
Both competition/contest and marketing are needed for a better result. Competition without advertising or advertising without competition wont be effective way to make the site survive for long time. So it is better if they can do both at the same time. There are many advertising strategy by using social media (twitter, facebook, telegram, discord,etc) and I think it is cheaper than signature campaign, at least they should spread the word as much as possible in this online world.
It is not really "getting advertised" when you do a competition still you want people to know about it, it is more like creating an awareness and they are totally different things, they look like similar things but they are actually quite different. One is saying people "hey come check our website out we are good" and there is not wrong with that, that is advertising and everyone is doing it with their signature/twitter campaigns and topics and all that.

The other is "hey we are giving out extra money, you may even go +ev with this" and that is creating awareness for your competition and that is really something different. Quite similar things but the purpose is different, you are not promoting the website itself as a whole, you are not creating enough awareness for your competition among this community to participate. Doing both must be needed as per current level of competition we are experiencing among gambling houses.
sr. member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 272
1xbit.com
The "marketing" we are doing is giving daily contests, which are always +ev by the way. Look at Primedice, yolodice, stake and bitsler. All with daily or weekly contests and the prizes are NEVER plus ev yet people still play them. I don't see why people wouldn't also play on ours.
Even if you have a lower house edge than Bitsler and offer a contest with a prize bigger than any oher gambling website, you cannot compare your website with Bitsler. Bitsler is an old website which is trusted by community. You cannot expect people to trust as they have trusted Bitsler. When Bitsler lauched their website, they had zero players. You have been online only for one month.
You said, if the volume does not increase you will close your website. So, Why should people trust you while your website might be closed soon?

This forum used to be enough to attract people to a site. All dice sites from 2012-2015 used this forum exclusively and grew from that. That's why I said previously there obviously aren't many gamblers left here.
There are many gamblers in the forum. But the problem is there are many gambling websites too. This is what makes your work difficult.

Yeah the words mentioned by you, are well justified.
The site offers low house edge, but it cannot be compared to the old and trusted gambling sites.
Moreover the site needs to be more aged, before someone can invest a long amount in the site.
Nevertheless, let's hope for the best and wait to see more and aweosme contests and promos from the site.
copper member
Activity: 60
Merit: 0
The rewards are lower because the contest runs and pays every day instead of once a week.
We can't give out the weekly prize every day if all that is going to happen is players wait until midnight and bet 1 satoshi to win the prize.

As traffic increases we will increase the prizes. Also the more people that wager the higher the prize is as it is progressive.
Just keep on spending that money on marketing instead of competition and you may actually get some people in here but considering they are spending investment money it might create a challenge. At one hand if you spend investors money but manage to get a bunch of people then they will make a profit on gamblers and will be able to recoup that investment, on the other hand if they fail then they won't be able to pay investors back.

Hence, it is a big dilemma what to do, maybe they are doing the correct way, maybe they are not doing it the right way, nobody can really know. Maybe you guys should hire a consultant who is known in bitcoin casino world so you can get some pointers from them and do what they say since they already done it and managed to run a casino.

Both competition/contest and marketing are needed for a better result. Competition without advertising or advertising without competition wont be effective way to make the site survive for long time. So it is better if they can do both at the same time. There are many advertising strategy by using social media (twitter, facebook, telegram, discord,etc) and I think it is cheaper than signature campaign, at least they should spread the word as much as possible in this online world.

Almost all dice sites and gambling dapps have poor social medial presence. It isn't that effective. It only works for a few already big sites who have a large following already.
If we start a twitter, facebook and telegram profile we wont bring players with it.

The "marketing" we are doing is giving daily contests, which are always +ev by the way. Look at Primedice, yolodice, stake and bitsler. All with daily or weekly contests and the prizes are NEVER plus ev yet people still play them. I don't see why people wouldn't also play on ours.

This forum used to be enough to attract people to a site. All dice sites from 2012-2015 used this forum exclusively and grew from that. That's why I said previously there obviously aren't many gamblers left here.

People could support the site by inviting others to join with their affiliate link. But they won't because then they have extra competition in the leaderboard.They don't think that it would actually benefit them long term because then the prizes will be bigger and the site grows.


How do you know if you do not even willing to try? Sorry to say but you looks like so pessimistic person for your own site.
What I mean by marketing is something like advertisement not competition/contest on your site. I call it as promotion, advertisement is a way to make your site noticeable for new people. Indeed there is no guarantee that it will be effective but as an owner you should do your best.
Many other old and big sites are still doing advertisement till now to try to get more and more players. If there is no more gambler in this forum, those old and big sites would have stopped their promotion and advertisement in this forum. Wondering, if you do not want to do social media advertisement and you think that this forum is not useful anymore because there is no more gamblers left then how and where would you promote your site?

Word of mouth and users using affiliate link.
We are not marketers. If we can't grow with that then we will close the site and sell the software.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
The rewards are lower because the contest runs and pays every day instead of once a week.
We can't give out the weekly prize every day if all that is going to happen is players wait until midnight and bet 1 satoshi to win the prize.

As traffic increases we will increase the prizes. Also the more people that wager the higher the prize is as it is progressive.
Just keep on spending that money on marketing instead of competition and you may actually get some people in here but considering they are spending investment money it might create a challenge. At one hand if you spend investors money but manage to get a bunch of people then they will make a profit on gamblers and will be able to recoup that investment, on the other hand if they fail then they won't be able to pay investors back.

Hence, it is a big dilemma what to do, maybe they are doing the correct way, maybe they are not doing it the right way, nobody can really know. Maybe you guys should hire a consultant who is known in bitcoin casino world so you can get some pointers from them and do what they say since they already done it and managed to run a casino.

Both competition/contest and marketing are needed for a better result. Competition without advertising or advertising without competition wont be effective way to make the site survive for long time. So it is better if they can do both at the same time. There are many advertising strategy by using social media (twitter, facebook, telegram, discord,etc) and I think it is cheaper than signature campaign, at least they should spread the word as much as possible in this online world.

Almost all dice sites and gambling dapps have poor social medial presence. It isn't that effective. It only works for a few already big sites who have a large following already.
If we start a twitter, facebook and telegram profile we wont bring players with it.

The "marketing" we are doing is giving daily contests, which are always +ev by the way. Look at Primedice, yolodice, stake and bitsler. All with daily or weekly contests and the prizes are NEVER plus ev yet people still play them. I don't see why people wouldn't also play on ours.

This forum used to be enough to attract people to a site. All dice sites from 2012-2015 used this forum exclusively and grew from that. That's why I said previously there obviously aren't many gamblers left here.

People could support the site by inviting others to join with their affiliate link. But they won't because then they have extra competition in the leaderboard.They don't think that it would actually benefit them long term because then the prizes will be bigger and the site grows.


How do you know if you do not even willing to try? Sorry to say but you looks like so pessimistic person for your own site.
What I mean by marketing is something like advertisement not competition/contest on your site. I call it as promotion, advertisement is a way to make your site noticeable for new people. Indeed there is no guarantee that it will be effective but as an owner you should do your best.
Many other old and big sites are still doing advertisement till now to try to get more and more players. If there is no more gambler in this forum, those old and big sites would have stopped their promotion and advertisement in this forum. Wondering, if you do not want to do social media advertisement and you think that this forum is not useful anymore because there is no more gamblers left then how and where would you promote your site?
full member
Activity: 602
Merit: 116
The "marketing" we are doing is giving daily contests, which are always +ev by the way. Look at Primedice, yolodice, stake and bitsler. All with daily or weekly contests and the prizes are NEVER plus ev yet people still play them. I don't see why people wouldn't also play on ours.
Even if you have a lower house edge than Bitsler and offer a contest with a prize bigger than any oher gambling website, you cannot compare your website with Bitsler. Bitsler is an old website which is trusted by community. You cannot expect people to trust as they have trusted Bitsler. When Bitsler lauched their website, they had zero players. You have been online only for one month.
You said, if the volume does not increase you will close your website. So, Why should people trust you while your website might be closed soon?

This forum used to be enough to attract people to a site. All dice sites from 2012-2015 used this forum exclusively and grew from that. That's why I said previously there obviously aren't many gamblers left here.
There are many gamblers in the forum. But the problem is there are many gambling websites too. This is what makes your work difficult.
copper member
Activity: 60
Merit: 0
The rewards are lower because the contest runs and pays every day instead of once a week.
We can't give out the weekly prize every day if all that is going to happen is players wait until midnight and bet 1 satoshi to win the prize.

As traffic increases we will increase the prizes. Also the more people that wager the higher the prize is as it is progressive.
Just keep on spending that money on marketing instead of competition and you may actually get some people in here but considering they are spending investment money it might create a challenge. At one hand if you spend investors money but manage to get a bunch of people then they will make a profit on gamblers and will be able to recoup that investment, on the other hand if they fail then they won't be able to pay investors back.

Hence, it is a big dilemma what to do, maybe they are doing the correct way, maybe they are not doing it the right way, nobody can really know. Maybe you guys should hire a consultant who is known in bitcoin casino world so you can get some pointers from them and do what they say since they already done it and managed to run a casino.

Both competition/contest and marketing are needed for a better result. Competition without advertising or advertising without competition wont be effective way to make the site survive for long time. So it is better if they can do both at the same time. There are many advertising strategy by using social media (twitter, facebook, telegram, discord,etc) and I think it is cheaper than signature campaign, at least they should spread the word as much as possible in this online world.

Almost all dice sites and gambling dapps have poor social medial presence. It isn't that effective. It only works for a few already big sites who have a large following already.
If we start a twitter, facebook and telegram profile we wont bring players with it.

The "marketing" we are doing is giving daily contests, which are always +ev by the way. Look at Primedice, yolodice, stake and bitsler. All with daily or weekly contests and the prizes are NEVER plus ev yet people still play them. I don't see why people wouldn't also play on ours.

This forum used to be enough to attract people to a site. All dice sites from 2012-2015 used this forum exclusively and grew from that. That's why I said previously there obviously aren't many gamblers left here.

People could support the site by inviting others to join with their affiliate link. But they won't because then they have extra competition in the leaderboard.They don't think that it would actually benefit them long term because then the prizes will be bigger and the site grows.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
The rewards are lower because the contest runs and pays every day instead of once a week.
We can't give out the weekly prize every day if all that is going to happen is players wait until midnight and bet 1 satoshi to win the prize.

As traffic increases we will increase the prizes. Also the more people that wager the higher the prize is as it is progressive.
Just keep on spending that money on marketing instead of competition and you may actually get some people in here but considering they are spending investment money it might create a challenge. At one hand if you spend investors money but manage to get a bunch of people then they will make a profit on gamblers and will be able to recoup that investment, on the other hand if they fail then they won't be able to pay investors back.

Hence, it is a big dilemma what to do, maybe they are doing the correct way, maybe they are not doing it the right way, nobody can really know. Maybe you guys should hire a consultant who is known in bitcoin casino world so you can get some pointers from them and do what they say since they already done it and managed to run a casino.

Both competition/contest and marketing are needed for a better result. Competition without advertising or advertising without competition wont be effective way to make the site survive for long time. So it is better if they can do both at the same time. There are many advertising strategy by using social media (twitter, facebook, telegram, discord,etc) and I think it is cheaper than signature campaign, at least they should spread the word as much as possible in this online world.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1162
www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
The rewards are lower because the contest runs and pays every day instead of once a week.
We can't give out the weekly prize every day if all that is going to happen is players wait until midnight and bet 1 satoshi to win the prize.

As traffic increases we will increase the prizes. Also the more people that wager the higher the prize is as it is progressive.
Just keep on spending that money on marketing instead of competition and you may actually get some people in here but considering they are spending investment money it might create a challenge. At one hand if you spend investors money but manage to get a bunch of people then they will make a profit on gamblers and will be able to recoup that investment, on the other hand if they fail then they won't be able to pay investors back.

Hence, it is a big dilemma what to do, maybe they are doing the correct way, maybe they are not doing it the right way, nobody can really know. Maybe you guys should hire a consultant who is known in bitcoin casino world so you can get some pointers from them and do what they say since they already done it and managed to run a casino.
copper member
Activity: 60
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Here's todays standings so far. About 5.5 hours left.

full member
Activity: 602
Merit: 116
Are you trying to suggest them to have signature campaign?
Signature campaign is a great way for promoting every website that is related to crytocurrencies. But it does not gurantee the success. I guess even if the owner of BTCdice runs a signature campaign will give up after 1-2 weeks and only wastes his money. Also, a signature camapign won't be helpful if bticointalk is the only place for advertising.
Check the OP. Can you find a Telegram group, Facebook page or Twitter account? BTCdice has only created a website and then created a free thread on bitcointalk.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
They should give it sometime. You cannot expect 100s of users without making any advertisement. The site doesn't even have a twitter account so users can only hear about this site through this topic.
They really need advertisement. The most important thing that can makes a gambling website successful is how developers promote their website especially in these days as there are many gambling websites.
I have visited their website. It is really convenient for those who interested in dice game. But the problem is almost no one is aware of existence of this gambling website. Look at the OP. There are only some short paragraphs without any photo or any other thing which is attractive for people. Even I didn't know they have a Twitter account as nothing about that can be found in the OP.

Are you trying to suggest them to have signature campaign? The wagering contest is basically one of many ways to promote the site. You can compare with the one you are promoting through your signature. Which one has better traffic every single day? As I can say there is no big difference on both sites in case of the traffic, there are only 1-2 online users when I visit the site. BTCdice even had more users when they ran the first wagering contest as far as I can see.
If it is true that BTCdice is going to close the site if the volume does not increase till Sunday then I can say that the owner of BTCdice is a type of person who do not want to struggle or easy to give up or maybe he did not do some researches first about this bitcoin gambling industry especially dice game where the competition is just so high since past few years.
full member
Activity: 602
Merit: 116
They should give it sometime. You cannot expect 100s of users without making any advertisement. The site doesn't even have a twitter account so users can only hear about this site through this topic.
They really need advertisement. The most important thing that can makes a gambling website successful is how developers promote their website especially in these days as there are many gambling websites.
I have visited their website. It is really convenient for those who interested in dice game. But the problem is almost no one is aware of existence of this gambling website. Look at the OP. There are only some short paragraphs without any photo or any other thing which is attractive for people. Even I didn't know they have a Twitter account as nothing about that can be found in the OP.
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