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Topic: BTCMiners "Cloud Hashing" | $8.50 USD per GH/s! - page 4. (Read 23122 times)

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So, as much as it pains me to say it, it's probably a good idea for those of us that don't care to post what they were in for so we can get a vague idea of how much BTC he actually got. Agath is in for 31.5, and I know the last time I checked the wallet it was in the area of 38 BTC. How that was split up, and whose was what I have no idea.

 I am in for 1.036 BTC myself. ($877.00 at the time) for 100 Gh.
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Go ahead... say it... we were f'ing idiots.  Sigh.
legendary
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Use Coinbase Account almosanywhere with Shift card
see number one. (but I think I've learned). But I also PM'd with him seveal times and was hashing at his pool before this 'sale' started.
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Well there went my last hope on this I was down to 10% anyway Cry

Quote from: AMT_miners on Today at 09:15:43 PM
WHY HAS IT TAKEN A MONTH FOR SOMEONE TO ASK US DIRECTLY IF THIS PERSON ACTUALLY MADE OR INQUIRED ABOUT MAKING A PURCHASE FROM US!!!


My own answer not ment to describe anyone else

1. Stupid.
2. Did not have name to ask about but asking about anyone from BTCMiners might have worked.
3. Because of #1 it's only been a week to even suspect anything was wrong. (insteading of asking for invoice number or other confirming info)

Ok, yes, understandable - but 35th's is an order we're going to notice and remember clearly, and if someone else is collecting money claiming to have ordered something from us.. its like com'n..  Like ask for an order number or invoice number or something. An order like that would have been paid via wire... im just say like ...  i dont know what to say.
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Yeah I find it amazing that nobody bothered to just ask AMT, or for an invoice number or something from him. For me personally, I think it was a combination of his status as "Sr. Member", with (at the time) only positive trust, combined with the fact that from all appearances he was all legit with a Coinbase merchant Acct. I fell for it....Sigh
legendary
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Use Coinbase Account almosanywhere with Shift card
Well there went my last hope on this I was down to 10% anyway Cry

Quote from: AMT_miners on Today at 09:15:43 PM
WHY HAS IT TAKEN A MONTH FOR SOMEONE TO ASK US DIRECTLY IF THIS PERSON ACTUALLY MADE OR INQUIRED ABOUT MAKING A PURCHASE FROM US!!!


My own answer not ment to describe anyone else

1. Stupid.
2. Did not have name to ask about but asking about anyone from BTCMiners might have worked.
3. Because of #1 it's only been a week to even suspect anything was wrong. (insteading of asking for invoice number or other confirming info)
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Guys,

Why did no one mention this on our thread or email us and ask about this. I just got off the with Donni - "Nocturnal2112" Who just inquired if this was an legimate order and when I responded No it isn't and he sent me the link this thread and I gave him a call and he just filled me in on this situation which is just ridiculous. We've had a few large orders yes, and we do know each and everyone of them personally.

But guys come on, at some point someone could have just sent an email and just asked if this was legitimate order.. We've had an email dedicated to order verification for guys that sell on Ebay or resell their per-orders to their friends. Its on our fact's page at the bottom [email protected] and has been there since we put the site.
 
I'm Jim by the way, in general we stick to our forum  or the custom hardware section, even though we don't use the forum that much really. On this username it's either me Jim or Josh. Personally I handle most customer support, larger sales and what nut and the "Lebanon, IN" rings a bell from somewhere and I'll take some time shortly to try and figure out exactly where that sounds familiar. One of those cities that is like "what wait.. "

If anyone has any information about this guy like another email or name or tone of voice if they spoke with him over the phone, please post it here because most likely he did inquire for something at some point.

We'll do the best we can to try and help out with this, I just cant believe it has taken this long to get to us.

legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
I suppose the first thing we can do is give this guy a negative reputation and make sure no newbies buy from here.
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 Roll Eyes Huh Roll Eyes Huh Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

Guess this should answer any questions anyone had over the validity of this offer.

Lets get the wire fraud/ tax evasion process rolling people
WHY HAS IT TAKEN A MONTH FOR SOMEONE TO ASK US DIRECTLY IF THIS PERSON ACTUALLY MADE OR INQUIRED ABOUT MAKING A PURCHASE FROM US!!!


legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
WHY HAS IT TAKEN A MONTH FOR SOMEONE TO ASK US DIRECTLY IF THIS PERSON ACTUALLY MADE OR INQUIRED ABOUT MAKING A PURCHASE FROM US!!!
I'll take it that he hasn't?
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WHY HAS IT TAKEN A MONTH FOR SOMEONE TO ASK US DIRECTLY IF THIS PERSON ACTUALLY MADE OR INQUIRED ABOUT MAKING A PURCHASE FROM US!!!

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Sad news to see still no update Sad
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While im part of this group only by 0.15 btc I would hope you guys that invested for the ths our multiple ths would be knocking the door down trying to gather up as many members as you could to join a possible lawsuit. Board seems kinda quite to say this guy made away with over 30+ btc...  Huh
Yeah it seems to be registered through a domain proxy company. The authorities can get the true registrar's info with a court order from them however, once they start investigating.
You can report a website through the domain proxy that he uses, but I suppose that the supporting documentation would be an issue. If anyone wants to have a go then here: https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/ClaimForm.aspx?Type=3 . There is also a way to get registrar information through it, but I believe you have to have some sort of law status to get it.

Actually, while reading the ToS for domainsbyproxy.com I stumbled upon this:

"You understand and agree that DBP has the absolute right and power, in its sole discretion and without any liability to You whatsoever, to:"

"Cancel the privacy service (which means that Your information will be available in the "Whois" directory) and/or reveal Your name and personal information that You provided to DBP when:"

"G. If it comes to DBP's attention that You are using DBP's services for purposes of engaging in, participating in, sponsoring or hiding Your involvement in, illegal or morally objectionable activities, including but not limited to, activities which are designed, intended to or otherwise:"

"3. Violate state, federal or international law;"


(only pasted the relevant passages, didn't want to paste the whole page, there are lots of conditions.)

But the way this reads, if they find out that he's using their service to hide criminal activities, or if they are named in a law suit, they will cancel his account, and the whois will be unhidden...Wink

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Yeah it seems to be registered through a domain proxy company. The authorities can get the true registrar's info with a court order from them however, once they start investigating.
You can report a website through the domain proxy that he uses, but I suppose that the supporting documentation would be an issue. If anyone wants to have a go then here: https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/ClaimForm.aspx?Type=3 . There is also a way to get registrar information through it, but I believe you have to have some sort of law status to get it.

Actually, while reading the ToS for domainsbyproxy.com I stumbled upon this:

"You understand and agree that DBP has the absolute right and power, in its sole discretion and without any liability to You whatsoever, to:"

"Cancel the privacy service (which means that Your information will be available in the "Whois" directory) and/or reveal Your name and personal information that You provided to DBP when:"

"G. If it comes to DBP's attention that You are using DBP's services for purposes of engaging in, participating in, sponsoring or hiding Your involvement in, illegal or morally objectionable activities, including but not limited to, activities which are designed, intended to or otherwise:"

"3. Violate state, federal or international law;"


(only pasted the relevant passages, didn't want to paste the whole page, there are lots of conditions.)

But the way this reads, if they find out that he's using their service to hide criminal activities, or if they are named in a law suit, they will cancel his account, and the whois will be unhidden...Wink
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There also may be information that can be acquired (at least by authorities) from Coinbase, It appears that he has a merchant account through them, that may (or may not) require a "bank account verified" type of account. Honestly that was one of the factors that played into my decision to do this in the first place, being tied directly to Coinbase like it is, it lent it a bit of credibility in my eyes.

Yeah it seems to be registered through a domain proxy company. The authorities can get the true registrar's info with a court order from them however, once they start investigating.
You can report a website through the domain proxy that he uses, but I suppose that the supporting documentation would be an issue. If anyone wants to have a go then here: https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/ClaimForm.aspx?Type=3 . There is also a way to get registrar information through it, but I believe you have to have some sort of law status to get it.
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$40k at current market value. The way btc has been going it could be many times that amount by the time they get into seriously investigating things.

40K stolen should get the feds attention.. At least for TAX evasion  Roll Eyes

Do you guys really think the feds would pursue this ? If they would how do we go about getting the ball rolling  Angry



The question in my mind is, how many days of dead-silence from him do we wait before starting to sharpen pitchforks, and filing complaints/charges. I am thinking one week from when he last was heard from seems reasonable. Don't want to give him too much of a head start. That is plenty of time in my mind. But there may be certain amounts of time that have to pass before they allow you to file complaints. I have not tried yet so I don't know for sure.

But, when the time comes, quick google says it all starts with complaints here: http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
Yeah it seems to be registered through a domain proxy company. The authorities can get the true registrar's info with a court order from them however, once they start investigating.
You can report a website through the domain proxy that he uses, but I suppose that the supporting documentation would be an issue. If anyone wants to have a go then here: https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/ClaimForm.aspx?Type=3 . There is also a way to get registrar information through it, but I believe you have to have some sort of law status to get it.
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Yeah it seems to be registered through a domain proxy company. The authorities can get the true registrar's info with a court order from them however, once they start investigating.



Possibly if we can get enough personal details we could convince local law enforcement to visit him.
The Whois of his website doesn't help, however we do know that it is hosted by GoDaddy (http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?k=UhdtpZizyGW73GF8xeZTtl64vR0gmWzckU9c4eqWd1Bp1C2/CXaD3PrmLDBe4vUj&domain=btcminers.net&prog_id=GoDaddy). Perhaps if we can get in touch with GoDaddy and give them some information on what has happened we can perhaps get some other details about him.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
Possibly if we can get enough personal details we could convince local law enforcement to visit him.
The Whois of his website doesn't help, however we do know that it is hosted by GoDaddy (http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?k=UhdtpZizyGW73GF8xeZTtl64vR0gmWzckU9c4eqWd1Bp1C2/CXaD3PrmLDBe4vUj&domain=btcminers.net&prog_id=GoDaddy). Perhaps if we can get in touch with GoDaddy and give them some information on what has happened we can perhaps get some other details about him.
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40K stolen should get the feds attention.. At least for TAX evasion  Roll Eyes

Do you guys really think the feds would pursue this ? If they would how do we go about getting the ball rolling  Angry



The question in my mind is, how many days of dead-silence from him do we wait before starting to sharpen pitchforks, and filing complaints/charges. I am thinking one week from when he last was heard from seems reasonable. Don't want to give him too much of a head start. That is plenty of time in my mind. But there may be certain amounts of time that have to pass before they allow you to file complaints. I have not tried yet so I don't know for sure.

But, when the time comes, quick google says it all starts with complaints here: http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
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