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legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
October 28, 2014, 09:26:01 AM
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Yes we have identified the issue.
We have all our email, dropbox etc protected by 2-factor auth from beginning but had this hosting account left.
That's why the hacker can get into the hosting account.
It's totally our fault.
We have already changed all passwords and enabled the 2-factor auth.

Thanks a lot for your support!


THAT was the explanation from BTER.

source = https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/forgers-have-been-faced-with-a-choice/msg81752/#msg81752
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 260
October 28, 2014, 09:17:13 AM
Makes sense. Tomorrow I'm goin to steal money from myself.

why wait? Steal today and tomorrow, double profit! Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1225
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 09:15:08 AM
the facts on this hacker story are silly and laughable !

the players ?
the NXT guys and BTER

Are you saying that "the Nxt guys" and bter stole Nxt from... Nxt guys?

Makes sense. Tomorrow I'm goin to steal money from myself.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
October 28, 2014, 09:10:38 AM
the facts on this hacker story are silly and laughable !

the players ?
the NXT guys and BTER

coins stolen ? = almost 2 million usd worth of NXT coins only.

status ? = forgotten ?

negotiated amount given to "hacker" ? 200+ Bitcoins ?

NXT team trying hard to do a roll back until we all got pissed off ? = check LOL

this whole story reeks and it should not be forgotten.
legendary
Activity: 1225
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 09:09:43 AM
this was a scam by BTER and NXT guys..

does anyone have ANYTHING BTER said on this story publicly ?
I'd love to know if they were in on it or just the victims..

Quiz of the day: find the contradiction.
legendary
Activity: 1225
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
Jeff Garzik, reputable Bitcoin developer, said NxT is a scam

Yes, because he thought that hashes have to match when compiling in java with a different compiler and different compiler settings  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1002
October 28, 2014, 08:42:08 AM
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wow, you quoted yourself  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
October 28, 2014, 08:41:02 AM
this was a scam by BTER and NXT guys.. their excuses for it all is 100% bullshit !

one of the key points was NXT bag holders started spreading a story about how
the BTER owner was "too stressed" to deal with a hacker so he let some NXT bag holder
find and contact the hacker and negotiate some deal worth many hundreds of Bitcoin BTER claims to have paid in a ransom.

the concept is utterly insane !

would you let some random user on your exchange go ahead and find a hacker and then have him ask what the hackers wants ?
like what the fuck ?
the fucking bag holder comes back and claims to have done pro-detective work to find the mystery hacker..
and guess what ?
the hacker said he wanted a quarter million dollars in coins LOL

fuck right off with your stupid dipshit fucking faggotry you cunty little idiot dipshit NXT fucktards !

HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU ALL THINK WE ARE ?

and BTER come clean in every little detail or eat a bag of dicks....

I also want to remind BTER they never said anything to us about this
and the info i posted was pretty much just some stupid story a NXT bag holder made up..

YOU BTER need to speak up to us not some loser liar scammer making up hacker stories..

does anyone have ANYTHING BTER said on this story publicly ?
I'd love to know if they were in on it or just the victims..
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1002
October 28, 2014, 08:36:24 AM

HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU ALL THINK WE ARE ?


Hmm, if I answer this you will get mad  Grin

Btw. why do so many of you trolls refer to yourself using the word "we" - is it a sockpuppet-management problem?
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
October 28, 2014, 08:34:31 AM
this was a scam by BTER and NXT guys.. their excuses for it all is 100% bullshit !

one of the key points was NXT bag holders started spreading a story about how
the BTER owner was "too stressed" to deal with a hacker so he let some NXT bag holder
find and contact the hacker and negotiate some deal worth many hundreds of Bitcoin BTER claims to have paid in a ransom.

the concept is utterly insane !

would you let some random user on your exchange go ahead and find a hacker and then have him ask what the hackers wants ?
like what the fuck ?
the fucking bag holder comes back and claims to have done pro-detective work to find the mystery hacker..
and guess what ?
the hacker said he wanted a quarter million dollars in coins LOL

fuck right off with your stupid dipshit fucking faggotry you cunty little idiot dipshit NXT fucktards !

HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU ALL THINK WE ARE ?

and BTER come clean in every little detail or eat a bag of dicks....

I also want to remind BTER they never said anything to us about this
and the info i posted was pretty much just some stupid story a NXT bag holder made up..

YOU BTER need to speak up to us not some loser liar scammer making up hacker stories..
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
October 28, 2014, 08:30:50 AM
Maybe we should take a notice that a core currency by its nature cannot be democratic. If I can vote your money into my pocket, or change your account balance by lobbying others, who would ever trust that currency? Couldn't people with enough influence just vote to take the coins from the exchange later on too? If people don't like you for any reason, the majority just votes your money away (aka blacklisting).
Rollbacks should be a last ditch effort to save a currency with a critical protocol flaw only.
This is the second time PoS has proven to be a major liability in a theft. Pure PoS systems will keep having these problems once a thief gains a major share of the network. You end up putting the future of your currency in the hands of a known bad actor, and since there is no mining, they hold your currency at ransom from then on.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 506
October 28, 2014, 08:27:30 AM
Jeff Garzik, reputable Bitcoin developer, said NxT is a scam
legendary
Activity: 1225
Merit: 1000
October 28, 2014, 08:26:02 AM
this was a scam by BTER and NXT guys.. their excuses for it all is 100% bullshit !

one of the key points was NXT bag holders started spreading a story about how
the BTER owner was "too stressed" to deal with a hacker so he let some NXT bag holder
find and contact the hacker and negotiate some deal worth many hundreds of Bitcoin BTER claims to have paid in a ransom.

the concept is utterly insane !

would you let some random user on your exchange go ahead and find a hacker and then have him ask what the hackers wants ?
like what the fuck ?
the fucking bag holder comes back and claims to have done pro-detective work to find the mystery hacker..
and guess what ?
the hacker said he wanted a quarter million dollars in coins LOL

fuck right off with your stupid dipshit fucking faggotry you cunty little idiot dipshit NXT fucktards !

HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU ALL THINK WE ARE ?

and BTER come clean in every little detail or eat a bag of dicks....

legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
October 28, 2014, 08:22:20 AM
this was a scam by BTER and NXT guys.. their excuses for it all is 100% bullshit !

one of the key points was NXT bag holders started spreading a story about how
the BTER owner was "too stressed" to deal with a hacker so he let some NXT bag holder
find and contact the hacker and negotiate some deal worth many hundreds of Bitcoin BTER claims to have paid in a ransom.

the concept is utterly insane !

would you let some random user on your exchange go ahead and find a hacker and then have him ask what the hackers wants ?
like what the fuck ?
the fucking bag holder comes back and claims to have done pro-detective work to find the mystery hacker..
and guess what ?
the hacker said he wanted a quarter million dollars in coins LOL

fuck right off with your stupid dipshit fucking faggotry you cunty little idiot dipshit NXT fucktards !

HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU ALL THINK WE ARE ?

and BTER come clean in every little detail or eat a bag of dicks....
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1131
October 17, 2014, 03:09:26 AM
Still feeling the after effects of this hack. Bter withdrawl rate is still 0.5%
Speaking of which NXT has been suffering in the market lately. Seems like on a one way trip to the floor.
https://i.imgur.com/AV54JQw.png
Nxt has been stable for two weeks, all the while when bitcoin was heading to the floor (see the blue line tanking down steeper than 45 degrees?)... and Nxt is currently rising against bitcoin.
https://i.imgur.com/L0jbmKD.png
Version 1.3.0 was finally released yesterday, this has been holding up other features in Nxt. Expect more news in 4 weeks.
The whale that sold his NXT recently was probably retarded.
Anyway, thanks for the easy profit.
I recall NXT being around 80-90 a few days back. Now its just 60, all the while Bitcoin went down. Not sure I call the whale stupid your buys profit yet.

You mean that as long as I don't cash out I have no profit right ? I know that.
I also know that I've been trading NXT/BTC since the very start.
My strategy is very basic : buy low, sell high.
It's been 1 year I'm doing that and it worked all the time.
I've been doing non-stop gain with a no-brainer technique.
Why do people believe trading is something technical or complex ?

Nxt is low, just buy it.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
October 16, 2014, 05:43:11 AM
Still feeling the after effects of this hack. Bter withdrawl rate is still 0.5%
Speaking of which NXT has been suffering in the market lately. Seems like on a one way trip to the floor.
https://i.imgur.com/AV54JQw.png
Nxt has been stable for two weeks, all the while when bitcoin was heading to the floor (see the blue line tanking down steeper than 45 degrees?)... and Nxt is currently rising against bitcoin.
https://i.imgur.com/L0jbmKD.png
Version 1.3.0 was finally released yesterday, this has been holding up other features in Nxt. Expect more news in 4 weeks.

The whale that sold his NXT recently was probably retarded.
Anyway, thanks for the easy profit.


I recall NXT being around 80-90 a few days back. Now its just 60, all the while Bitcoin went down. Not sure I call the whale stupid your buys profit yet.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1131
October 15, 2014, 08:10:13 AM
Still feeling the after effects of this hack. Bter withdrawl rate is still 0.5%
Speaking of which NXT has been suffering in the market lately. Seems like on a one way trip to the floor.
https://i.imgur.com/AV54JQw.png
Nxt has been stable for two weeks, all the while when bitcoin was heading to the floor (see the blue line tanking down steeper than 45 degrees?)... and Nxt is currently rising against bitcoin.
https://i.imgur.com/L0jbmKD.png
Version 1.3.0 was finally released yesterday, this has been holding up other features in Nxt. Expect more news in 4 weeks.

The whale that sold his NXT recently was probably retarded.
Anyway, thanks for the easy profit.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
October 15, 2014, 07:50:53 AM
Still feeling the after effects of this hack. Bter withdrawl rate is still 0.5%

Speaking of which NXT has been suffering in the market lately. Seems like on a one way trip to the floor.






Nxt has been stable for two weeks, all the while when bitcoin was heading to the floor (see the blue line tanking down steeper than 45 degrees?)... and Nxt is currently rising against bitcoin.







Version 1.3.0 was finally released yesterday, this has been holding up other features in Nxt. Expect more news in 4 weeks.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
October 15, 2014, 06:24:17 AM
Still feeling the after effects of this hack. Bter withdrawl rate is still 0.5%

Speaking of which NXT has been suffering in the market lately. Seems like on a one way trip to the floor.
sr. member
Activity: 700
Merit: 250
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October 15, 2014, 02:39:00 AM

Bounty on his 'head'. I think that's pretty clear cut. Not bounty leading to his arrest, not bounty on information,etc. On his head.

As for the police report, the issue is, will Nxt's self-appointed representative travel to China to make said report? The article implied they, not Bter, are the reporting party, and they will also be pursuing legal action - again, from China?

As for tracking the repurchasing of stolen Nxts, isn't that just an empty boast?
Unless of course Nxt is planning to spend millions of dollars hiring law firms around the globe to compel ISPs and/or domain registrars to divulge the identities anonymous exchange owners and thereafter, compel them to hand over their internal logs followed by another round of court appearances to force ISPs to disclose subscriber details. Multiply that by say, oh, a thousand.

This, of course, assumes that a court in Thailand or Latvia or Bolivia will even accept affidavits from an exchange owner in China about the theft of an experimental cryptocurrency they probably never even heard of before.

Come on, man!

Rugrats, mon petit:

Maybe it's just Dom P and his French mangling of the English language, but you're getting a couple of points wrong:

You are, so far,  the first guy to assume that 'bounty on his head' actually means 'just his head, in a box'
I know we are horrible, horrible people at Nxt, but the bounty isn't actually the Wild West 'Dead or Alive' kind.....it's the crypto-currency 'information leading to arrest/funds recovery' sort of bounty....thats all.

BTER were the reporting party, if any police reports were filed. There's no way that a Nxt rep could file on BTER's behalf in China.

On the buying stolen NXT, heres my reply again:
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But the bit on repurchasers of stolen NXT needs clarification: he's not referring to trying to trace random (probably totally innocent) buyers who may accidentally end up with  some stolen NXT from an exchange (individual NXT can't be tracked, btw) but he's referring to the couple of people who tried to buy stolen NXT directly from the hacker/thief, using Nxt's built-in messaging feature:
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Before we had a chance to talk to the hacker, some people offered him to buy some of the Nxt back at cheap price. This is illegal in most countries and our legal department is working on this on the charge of handling of stolen goods. We advise people who communicated through the blockchain with the goal of getting some cheap Nxt at the expense of the others to come and contact us to seek legal advice and see if a deal can be made to keep them out of trouble. If they don't, BTer will seek them and sue them, which may pay for part of their loss.

We are talking here about a couple of people who directly contacted the hacker, offering to buy the stolen NXT, not 1000's of people who may end up buying 'dodgy' NXT from an exchange.....like I said, individual NXT can't be traced.   



Je vous crois sur parole, cher Dave.
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