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August 15, 2014, 07:02:21 AM
#59
A second hijacker just appeared: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/16127013390623010298

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I'll pay 0.000004 btc per nxt. That's double what's BTER is paying. You may sell as much as you want. 1 nxt or all 45m it's up to you. I got the btc ready. You'll be left safe btc and I'll hold risk of forking. Please reply me anyway thank you

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August 15, 2014, 07:00:13 AM
#58
Someone is trying to hijack the deal!

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You're selling NXT back to BTER at 0.000002 btc per nxt. I'll buy them for 0.000003 btc per nxt. That's 50% more for holding all the risk of being forked myself while you have safe BTC. I got BTC ready to send instantly. Thank you very much!

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/4053546080551753572

Negotiations on blockchain - the future of collecting ransom Grin

Surprised Bter had such lazy security in the first place.

This is BTER's explanation.


This is actually pretty freaking awesome to watch.

Now let me go grab some popcorn. Cool

It's going to get better, I think. 110BTC in the thief's account now. I don't know where the extra 10 came from - and even if the 70BTC came from BTER.
https://blockchain.info/address/13UZjKkhHWyTmQ4mx28WT5Wj1zw4pEByZw

Meanwhile, the NXT remains unmoved: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-8WJ7-8A2H-MBYN-3W9K4
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amarha
August 15, 2014, 06:58:29 AM
#57
https://blockchain.info/address/13UZjKkhHWyTmQ4mx28WT5Wj1zw4pEByZw

110 BTC sent but the deal is off?!

What are they doing?!
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August 15, 2014, 06:56:22 AM
#56

Name   Lin Han  (191)
Org.   Lin Han  (72)
Email   [email protected]  (29)
Street 1   76 Broadway Ave  (14)
Street 2   -
City   Hamilton  (407,130)
Region   Ontario  (1,076,314)
Zip / Post   L8S 2V8  (18)
Country   CANADA  (6,176,607)

https://plus.google.com/u/2/107171805811454551552
https://www.facebook.com/lin.han.925
https://twitter.com/Ratoo/status/16369480409

It looks like the hacker may have just exploited a weakness in his account security, not BTER itself. 90% of passwords the same? Ugh, password managers, please!

Really interested to see how this turns out.
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August 15, 2014, 06:54:17 AM
#55
This is actually pretty freaking awesome to watch.

Now let me go grab some popcorn. Cool
legendary
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August 15, 2014, 06:53:17 AM
#54
Someone is trying to hijack the deal!

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You're selling NXT back to BTER at 0.000002 btc per nxt. I'll buy them for 0.000003 btc per nxt. That's 50% more for holding all the risk of being forked myself while you have safe BTC. I got BTC ready to send instantly. Thank you very much!

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/4053546080551753572

Negotiations on blockchain - the future of collecting ransom Grin

Surprised Bter had such lazy security in the first place.
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August 15, 2014, 06:51:10 AM
#53
Someone is trying to hijack the deal!

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You're selling NXT back to BTER at 0.000002 btc per nxt. I'll buy them for 0.000003 btc per nxt. That's 50% more for holding all the risk of being forked myself while you have safe BTC. I got BTC ready to send instantly. Thank you very much!

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/4053546080551753572
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August 15, 2014, 06:49:53 AM
#52
The courteous thief/hacker made an account and posted on the Nxt forum.

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Okay, Guys - Let me apologise - but the deal is off.

I'm not going to stay here for hours waiting for him to send the bitcoins. I been almost hour since the first batch of NXT was sent to him, I'm not going to stay hours waiting for his send batch of his bitcoins.

I got  things to do, than sit around and wait.

Lets see if the one exchanges lack of impenitence will ruin whole NXT community.

Good luck, all!

Moments later, BTER sent him 20BTC.

Why did Bter send 20 BTC after this?

I don't think the details about the hacker are correct. Very likely those are stolen too.

After BTER made the first installment, the thief sent over 5m NXT.
Then BTER asked them to send the second batch of 5m before they continue to make payment and waited.
The thief called their bluff and threatened to break nego and leave. BTER rushed off another 20BTC, but as of now, the thief's wallet balance remains at 46m.
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amarha
August 15, 2014, 06:49:44 AM
#51
The courteous thief/hacker made an account and posted on the Nxt forum.

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Okay, Guys - Let me apologise - but the deal is off.

I'm not going to stay here for hours waiting for him to send the bitcoins. I been almost hour since the first batch of NXT was sent to him, I'm not going to stay hours waiting for his send batch of his bitcoins.

I got  things to do, than sit around and wait.

Lets see if the one exchanges lack of impenitence will ruin whole NXT community.

Good luck, all!

Moments later, BTER sent him 20BTC.

Why did Bter send 20 BTC after this?

I don't think the details about the hacker are correct. Very likely those are stolen too.

The details are the Bter guy's details...
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amarha
August 15, 2014, 06:48:55 AM
#50
 https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/forgers-have-been-faced-with-a-choice/msg81888/#msg81888

From the hacker: "Lin used same password for 90% of his services including his linode account."
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August 15, 2014, 06:48:34 AM
#49
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August 15, 2014, 06:48:08 AM
#48
redacted, I should get some sleep.
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August 15, 2014, 06:45:33 AM
#47

... only in bitcoin land
Geez, this guy has other exchanges to rob. Don't waste his precious time.

rofl. That is too funny man.
legendary
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August 15, 2014, 06:44:49 AM
#46
The courteous thief/hacker made an account and posted on the Nxt forum.

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Okay, Guys - Let me apologise - but the deal is off.

I'm not going to stay here for hours waiting for him to send the bitcoins. I been almost hour since the first batch of NXT was sent to him, I'm not going to stay hours waiting for his send batch of his bitcoins.

I got  things to do, than sit around and wait.

Lets see if the one exchanges lack of impenitence will ruin whole NXT community.

Good luck, all!

Moments later, BTER sent him 20BTC.

Why did Bter send 20 BTC after this?

I don't think the details about the hacker are correct. Very likely those are stolen too.
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August 15, 2014, 06:40:15 AM
#44

Wow. Could they really be that dumb?
Or are they using forged reg details?
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August 15, 2014, 06:38:08 AM
#43
I think they are I am a bit stupid.
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August 15, 2014, 06:34:38 AM
#42
The courteous thief/hacker made an account and posted on the Nxt forum.

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Okay, Guys - Let me apologise - but the deal is off.

I'm not going to stay here for hours waiting for him to send the bitcoins. I been almost hour since the first batch of NXT was sent to him, I'm not going to stay hours waiting for his send batch of his bitcoins.

I got  things to do, than sit around and wait.

Lets see if the one exchanges lack of impenitence will ruin whole NXT community.

Good luck, all!

Moments later, BTER sent him 20BTC.
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August 15, 2014, 06:28:56 AM
#41
Interesting that the ransom BTC address is not new, it has been used before. https://blockchain.info/address/13UZjKkhHWyTmQ4mx28WT5Wj1zw4pEByZw

That may be useful.
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amarha
August 15, 2014, 06:28:12 AM
#40
Now we will see if NXT is decentralized or not Smiley


rollback = centralized

Not really. It takes all the decentralised nodes to agree and form a consensus.

That's like calling Bitcoin centralised every time they upgrade the software.

haha what?

When bitcoin upgrades the software there is no rollback

Do you not see the difference?

How is x amount of individuals separate from each other centralised?

When Bitcoin upgrades the software or has a hard fork the miners and the nodes need to agree on using and mining on a new chain(in the case of a hard fork).

It's a decentalised consensus either way.

That's the whole point of decentalisation. That it takes the majority to make changes.

I'm not saying that I necessarily support the forgers choosing to roll back or not though. But it clearly isn't a centralised decision.
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