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Topic: BTER.com hacked| 7170 BTC stolen | DON'T KEEP YOUR MONEY ON AN EXCHANGE | - page 63. (Read 119723 times)

legendary
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i feel like this cold wallet incident has to be a inside job.. what are the odds of being an outsider?
legendary
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Someone knows if BTS is affected too?
legendary
Activity: 1470
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i mailed to BTER and they replied me. i asked about other altcoins and they:

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Dear Sir,
We are trying to get the stolen btc back. The withdrawal of other unaffected coins will be arranged later

Please kindly keep an eye on the bter.com for the update

Best Regards
Bter.com

 

Can I add the email on the first post of this thread or could it be a problem for you ?

 No problem you can add
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
i mailed to BTER and they replied me. i asked about other altcoins and they:

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Dear Sir,
We are trying to get the stolen btc back. The withdrawal of other unaffected coins will be arranged later

Please kindly keep an eye on the bter.com for the update

Best Regards
Bter.com

 

Can I add the email on the first post of this thread or could it be a problem for you ?
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
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i mailed to BTER and they replied me. i asked about other altcoins and they:

Quote
Dear Sir,
We are trying to get the stolen btc back. The withdrawal of other unaffected coins will be arranged later

Please kindly keep an eye on the bter.com for the update

Best Regards
Bter.com

 
Well yes, the question is whether they will just swallow their losses or deflect it to the users and say "aaaand it's gone".
But this implies that not everything was affected, well at least according to them. There is hope.

Dogecoins are intact... Cool
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 251
i mailed to BTER and they replied me. i asked about other altcoins and they:

Quote
Dear Sir,
We are trying to get the stolen btc back. The withdrawal of other unaffected coins will be arranged later

Please kindly keep an eye on the bter.com for the update

Best Regards
Bter.com

 
Well yes, the question is whether they will just swallow their losses or deflect it to the users and say "aaaand it's gone".
But this implies that not everything was affected, well at least according to them. There is hope.

If they manage to catch the people who stole the BTC and get it back, do you think it would deter further thefts from exchanges?
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1024
i mailed to BTER and they replied me. i asked about other altcoins and they:

Quote
Dear Sir,
We are trying to get the stolen btc back. The withdrawal of other unaffected coins will be arranged later

Please kindly keep an eye on the bter.com for the update

Best Regards
Bter.com

 
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
No  Sad , I lost 3,4 bitcoin. Now what should I do ?
Drink cold water  ... as me from mtgox colapse, these exchanges are big sh@t and no one is secured

Yes, you can't do nothing. Only wait news from them and hope they will repay you (at least a percentual of your loss, or better completely).
full member
Activity: 232
Merit: 100
No  Sad , I lost 3,4 bitcoin. Now what should I do ?
Drink cold water  ... as me from mtgox colapse, these exchanges are big sh@t and no one is secured
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 506
Leading up to the hack the "cold wallet" was online almost daily.
What makes you think that it was online almost dayly?

Sorry daily was a bit of an exaggeration, but there is a number of outputs from the wallet in January.
In January there were 7 days when they sent funds from the wallet: 9th, 10th, 19th, 22nd, 24th, 26th, 27th. IMO it's more or less as often as we could expect.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Leading up to the hack the "cold wallet" was online almost daily.
What makes you think that it was online almost dayly?

Sorry daily was a bit of an exaggeration, but there is a number of outputs from the wallet in January.
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 506
Leading up to the hack the "cold wallet" was online almost daily.
What makes you think that it was online almost dayly?
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
I'm starting to think that bter cold wallet wasn't so cold. Still, in 2015, should an exchange learn in the worst way how to setup a true cold wallet?

Leading up to the hack the "cold wallet" was online almost daily.  In fact the whole IO from the wallet looks completely automated.  If that was the case perhaps the attacker didn't have direct access to the device holding the cold wallet, but instead a computer which controlled the cold wallet through API commands?

Also does anyone know what the small output associated to the larger output is?  This small value seems to be transferred to a fresh wallet and slowly diminishes over time.  looks like it is in part covering the TX fee.
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
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Probably, Bter had to pay someone no matter what and what amount (we see escrowed transactions)... Cool

Also, how do you know that these addresses (except for 1M2bv, indeed) belong to Bter at all?
The first 3 got their balances in hot wallet replenishing transactions, when bter takes 7 of their standard 15 BTC outputs and sends exactly 100 BTC to their hot wallet, the change minus transaction fee goes to one of those addresses.
The last address, I'm not sure that it belongs to bter, but it's strange to combine your own funds (or funds of two different victims) in a single hack transaction.

Now this question seems to be cleared (as to whom belongs 1AeRVukQNG3qhd3i31pwFa7Z8qc6JnkYEs). We see that the last transaction from that address was done at 18:19:12, but the cryptic messages to all seven hacker's addresses were sent at 20:17:08 (assuming they were sent by Bter), i.e. 2 hours later. Is it possible that Bter learned about the thievery only after 18:19:12? As far as I remember, the site stopped operating just about that time... Cool
legendary
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I'm starting to think that bter cold wallet wasn't so cold. Still, in 2015, should an exchange learn in the worst way how to setup a true cold wallet?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 501
Error 404: there seems to be nothing here.
I guess I had 0.002 BTC left to withdraw from there!
RIP 0.002  Cry (Just kidding! But I really have 2 mbtc left there Tongue)
Anyways, I hope the hacker sends back the money and enjoy the bounty!
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 506
Probably, Bter had to pay someone no matter what and what amount (we see escrowed transactions)... Cool

Also, how do you know that these addresses (except for 1M2bv, indeed) belong to Bter at all?
The first 3 got their balances in hot wallet replenishing transactions, when bter takes 7 of their standard 15 BTC outputs and sends exactly 100 BTC to their hot wallet, the change minus transaction fee goes to one of those addresses.
The last address, I'm not sure that it belongs to bter, but it's strange to combine your own funds (or funds of two different victims) in a single hack transaction.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
No  Sad , I lost 3,4 bitcoin. Now what should I do ?
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 252
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This stinks. I liked Bter. The daily interest aspect was cool and their support people were always quick to respond
to emails. I really hope that this was a hack and not another mtgox fiasco. Over 7k bitcoin is a LOT of money.

I only had 1.5 BTC on their myself - not a lot compared to most, but it was what I was saving to pay for my kid's
college textbooks next term. Hopefully I'll be able to pick up an extra web dev or SEO gig to cover the loss.
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