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legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
October 31, 2013, 01:11:30 PM
I think if there is no word up to mid November we should consider a scammer tag maybe?
I know there is nothing to be gained, but still a month without a word isn't an easy thing...

Please post updates, including

-mining revenue and hashrate estimation

-coins moving from mining address

-results of attempts to track/contact CX

I hope CX is just busy being a new dad, and all of this will blow over soon.  But just in case...

Here is a great model for a shareholder revolt/takeover which worked for resolving the Ian Scamwell situation.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bakewell-action-proposal-call-for-volunteers-172471

[BAKEWELL] Action Proposal - Call for Volunteers

Hello. I'm proposing that the shareholders immediately take control of BAKEWELL via shareholder motion, and:

1. appoint an interim CEO,
2. rerouting, refund, sell the rights to, or sell the actual, AVALON asics ordered by BAKEWELL
3. create and issue IAN BAKEWELL debt representing the two $4,000 mining rigs owned by BAKEWELL
4. distribute profits from these events to shareholders
5. shut down the company

To be effective we need a shareholder motion to run appointing someone as the sole director of the company. We will need Ukyo's permission to run this motion. We need:

---> Someone must step up and volunteer to become the interim CEO and take control of the BAKEWELL account.
---> We then need to run a motion firing Ian and turning over all company asset to this new person (We need existing shareholders to request this, I will sign the request this as well since I now directly represent ownership of between 4.9% and 12.1% of the company (294 shares on BitFunder and a BMF claim for a possible further 432 shares).
---> The voted-in CEO needs to immediately contact AVALON with proof of the transfer (essentially, the result of the vote and/or Ukyo's signed statement regarding the matter).

At the very least this will constitute proof that Ian has stolen money from the company which will be needed if anyone wants to go after him legally for the GPU mining rigs BAKEWELL owns, so I think we should take a shot at getting this resolved on our end ASAP.

If no one volunteers for 48 hours I will do it. At least I'm a Canadian. I would prefer not to become interim CEO though. I am very busy with my own business and work IRL. We need someone to step up and volunteer here.

We also need to immediately contact that guy who claimed to have met Ian in person. (I'm a little busy so someone please step up to the plate and link the info from one of Ian's old threads where someone claimed to have met him in person). Thanks. But FWIW I have a lot of (somewhat estranged) family out there in Northern Canada. It is not unfeasable for me to make some calls and ask/pay a distant cousin to drive down to Edmonton and check out a few addresses. It would save money on a PI.

We will also need someone to contact Yifu and ask if it is theoretically possible, given the situation, to reroute the order to the new company address. That's how it should be presented, as that's what it is (a change of company address). So someone please step up to the plate and contact Yifu and ask him if we can do that so long as we can provide proof we run the company. This is important, we need volunteers to step up to the plate and get these things done within 24 hours. Post what you're going to help out with here and then go do it so we don't duplicate our efforts.

If anyone asks what I did for this, it's the push and the idea/plan. But I can't get too involved because I run my own business and I work a lot IRL, so actually doing the whole interim CEO thing would be a bit much for me.

Get involved, or you are basically kissing your money goodbye. If we get a small group together and start a collection plate for things like a private investigator and a lawyer / representation in small claims court, if you're not in the room when the deals are signed you are not in the deal and would have to go after him on your own.
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October 31, 2013, 01:03:47 PM
I think if there is no word up to mid November we should consider a scammer tag maybe?
I know there is nothing to be gained, but still a month without a word isn't an easy thing...
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
October 31, 2013, 11:12:56 AM
His info is in the contract on page 1  Roll Eyes

I called him a few days ago, left a message

he's mia
Mobile goes straight to voicemail and the other number - 847 2578 - gets auto forwarded to a co called Border States Electric. Huh

yeah just called as well same result

Someone really has to take a trip down to his address

Maybe the Fenix crew can help, since they've seen this movie before.

It looks like CX is trying to pull an Ian Bakewell.

My guess is CX got cocky and arrogant just because he had some momentary luck playing Goldilocks and refusing to risk anything on deals that weren't 'just right.'

Later, when that brief window closed and his stock price tanked, he may have found himself unable to pay gambling debts.
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
October 31, 2013, 09:22:56 AM
His info is in the contract on page 1  Roll Eyes

I called him a few days ago, left a message

he's mia
Mobile goes straight to voicemail and the other number - 847 2578 - gets auto forwarded to a co called Border States Electric. Huh

yeah just called as well same result

Someone really has to take a trip down to his address

legendary
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Touchdown
October 31, 2013, 09:11:14 AM
His info is in the contract on page 1  Roll Eyes

I called him a few days ago, left a message

he's mia
Mobile goes straight to voicemail and the other number - 847 2578 - gets auto forwarded to a co called Border States Electric. Huh
sr. member
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October 31, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
ewibit: Are you kidding? Stop just spamming every thread with your laziness.
sr. member
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October 31, 2013, 09:08:51 AM
Hi

BTC-TC SHUTDOWN

I have not got any information on the procedure to transfer shares (BASIC-MINING)..
what is with shares @BTC-TC?

thx

Sorry, did you just wake up?

We have no information about BASIC-MINING nor creativex since early october
legendary
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October 31, 2013, 08:55:08 AM
Hi

BTC-TC SHUTDOWN

I have not got any information on the procedure to transfer shares (BASIC-MINING)..
what is with shares @BTC-TC?

thx
hero member
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October 30, 2013, 10:25:59 PM
His info is in the contract on page 1  Roll Eyes

I called him a few days ago, left a message

he's mia
member
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October 30, 2013, 10:16:40 PM
His info is in the contract on page 1  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Touchdown
October 30, 2013, 07:16:27 PM
I think the general impression is that creativex is reputable, but that does not necessarily mean much. I'm just wondering, why this doesn't make progress.

Please contact me, if you like to help and call him. I have his contact info.

PM me his info and ill call
Likewise, send me his info.
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
October 30, 2013, 06:40:00 PM
I think the general impression is that creativex is reputable, but that does not necessarily mean much. I'm just wondering, why this doesn't make progress.

Please contact me, if you like to help and call him. I have his contact info.

PM me his info and ill call
legendary
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October 30, 2013, 06:37:51 PM
I thought someone was going to go to his house or something. Guess that never happened?
legendary
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October 30, 2013, 06:24:11 PM
I think the general impression is that creativex is reputable, but that does not necessarily mean much. I'm just wondering, why this doesn't make progress.

Please contact me, if you like to help and call him. I have his contact info.


Edit:

I'm in contact with damiano, he will keep us updated.
hero member
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October 30, 2013, 05:41:37 PM
i don´t own too much shares of this, but it is really sad, how the issuer takes his liabilities and hiding like some fucking scumbag

I think its moronic ironic that most of the people who use or invest in bitcoins are libertarians and when they lose some money, through their own lack of diligence and foresight, the first thing they want to do is look for someone else to blame or run to the authorities.

I think if you used your initiative you would be able to determine that Basic Mining was probably one of the least risky of the bitcoin stocks but they were ALL RISKY.

there are no rules or guidelines in place about how people who issue securities should report to shareholders or when they should pay dividends etc.... so if (and when) they choose to do so is entirely up to them.

still nobody knows what actually happened to creativeX but there are many many things that could happen to make a guy stop talking to his internet friends for a month or two.

for example.. the IRS may have informed him that his operations require him to pay tax on all the money he is earning and/or that he has to be incorporated to continue operating... either of those two things would force a one man operation to go into lockdown for a month or two and try to sort through the legal mess to become compliant...

another example... I don't believe creativex is a programmer unlike many other bitcoin adopters so he may be may be in lock down trying to sort out how he is going to take on the shares directly and pay out dividends.

yet other examples are health problems, a death in the family or a simple burn out; all of which could cause a guy to stop communicating for a few weeks.

the bottom line is.. its not the end of the world if your internet friend and friendly local securities holder stops talking for a short while.. the world is not ending.. this is just the wild west...

those people who were stupid enough to invest more than they could afford to lose need to take a good long hard look in the mirror and then take a good hard look at a dictionary for the definition of the word Libertarian.

Just my 2c as usual...

PS invested in several mining operations.. all of them are down... but I still don't feel as bad as the guy who bought 2 pizzas for 10,000 bitcoins...
 





sr. member
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October 30, 2013, 10:16:34 AM
i don´t own too much shares of this, but it is really sad, how the issuer takes his liabilities and hiding like some fucking scumbag
hero member
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October 30, 2013, 09:55:14 AM
Does anyone know who he bought the avalon and bfl asics from?

As far as I remember, creativex drove out and picked them up himself (remember the road trips he's had?).
hero member
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October 30, 2013, 09:53:08 AM
I thought issuers had to verify identity with btct higherups in order to create a security?

This is false. I was never asked and never verified for the assets I created.
legendary
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Touchdown
October 30, 2013, 09:27:24 AM
I have a hard time believing he stole anything. He isn't really in the situation to run (having a family for instance), and if I recall correctly is a major shareholder of his own company, and still probably has more coins that bASIC. What would be the point?
I'm inclined to believe this too but either way we need to hear from him / find out what is going on. Undecided
sr. member
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October 30, 2013, 07:21:09 AM
Website is gone, in a few days BTCT will be gone.
We should make sure that the Eric Corlew indentity isn't fake:
- 6 contacts on LinkenIn
- 45 friends on Facebook
- hasn't used his ebay account since 2011 (probably bought it)

We can ask BTCJam what kind of information they have.

Does anyone know who he bought the avalon and bfl asics from?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-avalon-asics-in-hand-only-249873
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Hi candoo. I'm in the US, south central MI.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2918420

I will stop you for the first line.. if you read, you can see i temporarily took the website offline..
Please read my post above..
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