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January 14, 2018, 05:25:25 PM
    Hi, i just got myself a DL580 G7 to use as a platform for my new gpu mining rig, but i cant get more than 1 gpu (rx570) to work simultainusly, i guess there is a software bios setting for this? Any ideas? Im using SMOS, 1 card works great.

    That doesn't bode well!  The documentation for the Server says it supports up to 4 GPU's so you should be able to get more running.  (I believe that is due to the power connectors available on the power breakout board) However, I'm hoping that someone who has experience with the DL580 and running more GPUs on it can chime in since I've got one on the way too!

    Anymore info on how you have your setup connected?  Cards plugged straight into box?  Using risers?  Using onboard power source or external for the cards, etc.

    I didnt spend to much time on it today as i am hoping its a software related issue, the gpus and the risers all worked well in another system later. I really hope someone can point me in the right direction...


    My setup:
    HP PROLIANT DL580 G7 4U RACK SERVER 4x E7-8837, 16GB, P410i/256MB, 2x 146GB, DVD
    591205-001 HP DL580 G7 PCI EXPRESS RISER CARD
    4x 1200W HP POWER SUPPLY
    2x Parallel Miner X7 BREAKOUT BOARD ADAPTER (12x 6pin PCI-E)
    24x 24 inch 16AWG 6 Pin Male to 6 Pin Male PCIE Power Cable
    12x 18AWG PCI-E 6pin to Dual 8-pin Y-Splitter Extension Cable 2X (6+2pin) Cable. 6in each side
    12x 008S usb3 riser
    12x Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 570 4G[/li][/list]
    Usb with SimpleMiner OS
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    January 14, 2018, 04:50:56 PM
    I suppose its my turn to contribute something.  If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036

    You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S.  You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache.  The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache.  XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space.  It should ROI itself in 2.5 months.  You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere.
    What kind of hashrate would this one yield?
    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/PC-Gigabyte-Brix-GB-BSi7HA-6500-Intel-Core-i7-6500U-2x-2-50GHz-GB-BSi7HA-6500/152714522870?hash=item238e7eb0f6:g:SW0AAOSw8-xZ2AHF
    jr. member
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    January 14, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
    Hi, i just got myself a DL580 G7 to use as a platform for my new gpu mining rig, but i cant get more than 1 gpu (rx570) to work simultainusly, i guess there is a software bios setting for this? Any ideas? Im using SMOS, 1 card works great.

    That doesn't bode well!  The documentation for the Server says it supports up to 4 GPU's so you should be able to get more running.  (I believe that is due to the power connectors available on the power breakout board) However, I'm hoping that someone who has experience with the DL580 and running more GPUs on it can chime in since I've got one on the way too!

    Anymore info on how you have your setup connected?  Cards plugged straight into box?  Using risers?  Using onboard power source or external for the cards, etc.
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    January 14, 2018, 11:14:41 AM
    haha, that one lonely DL580 G7 up there. Did you get 12 cards working on it? Just today I ran some pricing figures for it in another thread when I was arguing with some guy who wanted people to pay $29999 for 24x 1080-TI system.



    24x 1080-TI $710/each (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126188)
    2x DL580 G7 $300/each (https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Proliant-DL580-G7-4U-E7-4830-2-13GHz-16-Core-64GB-RAM-2-x-72GB-P410i-W-RAILS/282660829215?epid=129658107&hash=item41cfe5f81f:g:rWIAAOSwufpZwV7I)
    2x DL580 G7 IO Board $66/each (https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-DL580-G7-PCI-E-Riser-Card-588137-B21/172984027345?hash=item2846a6c8d1:g:BaUAAOSwCU1YwEqh)
    24x Riser cables $5/each (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA72562E8994&cm_re=pci-e_extender_mining-_-17Z-00AT-00003-_-Product)
    6x additional 1200W PSU $40/each  (can only run 4 1080TI per 1200W) - (https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Proliant-G6-G7-Power-Supply-1200W-490594-001-500172-B21-438203-001-HSTNS-PL11/172979235302?hash=item28465da9e6:g:mD4AAOSw9KhaCkkb)
    6x PSU breakout boards $17/each (https://www.ebay.com/i/182897146692?rt=nc) -- includes PCIE cables.. If the 1080TI needs 8 pin (I don't know because I've never owned one), it's also possible to get the PSU breakout board in 8x 8 pin instead of 10x 6pin... For roughly the same price.

    Total cost: $18234 for 24x 1080-TI including systems -- cost per GPU = $759/GPU.. Cost per PCI-E slot is $49/each. It's probably possible to get that a little lower per pcie slot.

    Those expansion boards are pretty cheap


    Edit: Wait, is that DL580 G7? On closer inspection just looks like a mid tower. I want to see that DL580 up there with your other systems Smiley Cry



    Whoever bought all the DL580 G7 boxes, you're welcome. Send me pics of your setup.

    I still just have one -- would be interesting to see where they all went!


    Hi, i just got myself a DL580 G7 to use as a platform for my new gpu mining rig, but i cant get more than 1 gpu (rx570) to work simultainusly, i guess there is a software bios setting for this? Any ideas? Im using SMOS, 1 card works great.
    newbie
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    January 14, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
    Let us know when you get it Smiley
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    January 14, 2018, 07:18:56 AM
    I suppose its my turn to contribute something.  If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036

    You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S.  You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache.  The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache.  XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space.  It should ROI itself in 2.5 months.  You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere.



    ...and it's already almost doubled in price.

    Thats a third party seller "Fateka". Not Newegg. It likely sold out from Newegg. Or Fateeka bought out Newegg and is looking to profit.

    The latter. The link bypasses the sold out page and takes you directly to their third party offers.

    EDIT TO ADD: also the average ebay price jumped up from around $260-80 just a few hours ago to $340 and up now.

    EDIT2: I WAS able to find an i5 model at a reasonable rate (comparing the two on the Gigabyte page, the specs are identical other than the CPU i class, so I'm assuming it should come pretty close to the above estimates). Picked up one to play with.
    jr. member
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    January 14, 2018, 06:06:54 AM
    I suppose its my turn to contribute something.  If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036

    You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S.  You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache.  The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache.  XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space.  It should ROI itself in 2.5 months.  You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere.



    ...and it's already almost doubled in price.

    Thats a third party seller "Fateka". Not Newegg. It likely sold out from Newegg. Or Fateeka bought out Newegg and is looking to profit.
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    January 14, 2018, 04:22:22 AM
    I suppose its my turn to contribute something.  If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036

    You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S.  You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache.  The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache.  XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space.  It should ROI itself in 2.5 months.  You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere.



    ...and it's already almost doubled in price.
    jr. member
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    January 13, 2018, 07:11:42 PM
    Sundownz thank you for the great info. But a quick question... have you ever tried using these in the 16x slots. I know you would need a second psu, but will this allow you to go further than 3 cards...in looking at dells specs, there are 40 pci lanes on the chipset, and with two 16x dedicated for video, I would assume all 32 video lanes in theory could be split in 1x intervals.  Just wondering your thoughts or experiences. I have several T7500s im looking to profit from and if i can build at least an 8 gpu rig (2 -4x risers) id be a happy camper.



    THIS!  I'm curious if this would work.  I have a motherboard with 24 pcie lanes as well but only 6 slots.  Could I put one of those in the two pcie/3.0 clots to get more gpu?
    jr. member
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    January 13, 2018, 06:59:03 PM
    You and me both.  I've worked in IT my whole life and I still fail to grasp how I didn't get into mining until last summer.    How much did you pay for your 1060s and 1080s?

    The 1080s were ~560-600 depending on if tax had to be paid or not.  Snagged one from Newegg and 2 from Amazon.
    The 1060s were $260 each including tax and a 4 year replacement plan.

    I also have a amazon business acct.  I bought 3 of the 1060s through my personal account because that was the limit.  I then switched to the business account Amazon luckily just referred me to a few days ago and I could have bought as many as I wanted but I limited myself to 6.  It was also $3 cheaper per card... lol

    In retrospect, I probably should have only bought 1 warranty per type of card....  LOLOL
    e97
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    January 13, 2018, 06:46:48 PM
    My cheap build:

    Xeon E5 v2 - $75
    8 x 8GB DDR3 ECC - $100
    Motherboard - $130
    240W PicoPSU - $20
    Server PSU 94% 1200W - $75

    Total: $400

    GPUs:           

        4 x GPU Vega 64 - $2000     

                       OR   

        4 x GPU 1080 Ti - $2800
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    January 13, 2018, 06:08:05 PM
    I suppose its my turn to contribute something.  If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036

    You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S.  You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache.  The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache.  XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space.  It should ROI itself in 2.5 months.  You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere.

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    January 13, 2018, 05:50:57 PM
    Sundownz, my wallet would like to thank you for the more than $5k I've spent in the last 24 hours to start my own setup.  In many ways I feel like a big dummy.  Being an IT hardware guy all my life this is right up my alley and really, mining feels no different than running prime95 and submitting results... lol  I should have started this years ago when I was in my 5k sq ft automotive shop and had plenty of power.  I'd be a millionaire by now if I had.  I'm not a trader.  I'm too emotional so I do stupid things with the little bit I've tried.  However, mining is something tangible and I can definitely wrap my head around getting paid for work.

    I dipped my toes in the mining pool finally this week and once I realized that with the hardware I already had (1080, 780 and a 7950) I was going to average $300/m... Well I went a little crazy buying things.  I've got 9 1060s and 3 1080s on the way! lol  

    I bought a DL580 G7 w/ 4 cpus to setup as my first rack.  I'm comfortable in Linux so I figured I'd try to get the one machine up and off the ground to start.  It coming with 4x1200w PSU's made me feel it was good value for the $.  I want to CPU mine and also run 11 GPUs through it.

    I've got lots of space and currently 400A of service.  If all goes well I'm thinking of burying containers in the ground and using geothermal cooling loops to keep the hardware cool as I'm in TX and it gets rather hot down here.

    For the remote access stuff, Google's Chrome Remote Desktop is basically Windows RDP with a FAR nicer interface.  It lists all the PCs and tells you which ones are up or down and even last online time if a box goes down.  I was a hardcore Windows RDP user and I switched to the Chrome version.  All you have to do is run the Chrome RDP installer while you are logged into Chrome and then from anywhere in the world that PC would be accessible when you are logged into Chrome.

    Thanks for all of your posts.  A lot of people don't want to share their secrets or how they are doing things so what you are doing really is helping out the average Joe!


    You and me both.  I've worked in IT my whole life and I still fail to grasp how I didn't get into mining until last summer.    How much did you pay for your 1060s and 1080s?
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    January 13, 2018, 05:22:33 PM
    I put in an order to get an HP z400 to build my first mining rig. I'm a big IT hardware guy too so I'm surprised I didn't find out about mining alt coins sooner. I did research Bitcoin a little bit back 4 years ago but when I found out you needed expensive ASIC's I figured it was too late. I also was big into distributed computing 7 or 8 years ago doing Seti@Home and Einstein@Home on BOINC on multiple computers. If only I would have found out about Bitcoin back then I would certainly be a multi-millionaire now. lol Better late than never I guess.
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    January 13, 2018, 02:19:10 PM
    I'm not too worried about user friendly, I started using Linux when Redhat and Suse were the major players and Ubuntu wasn't even a twinkle in an eye yet... LOL  If you think Linux has a lack of drivers for certain things now... Wink 

    More importantly, with the DL580 G7 I bought, I'm more worried about running the OS off a pen drive than the 8x 10k SAS drives the box is coming with... Those are going straight up on Ebay for $10/.  Simply not worth the power draw.  The box I got came with 4x1200 PSU and 4x6c CPUs & 64GB RAM.  Plan is to pull 2 of the PSU's to power the GPUs with breakout boards and leave 2 in the box for a true redundant PSU setup.  My box didn't have the 2nd PCIe I/O board so I ordered one for 11 total GPUs on it.

    Plan is to add a 2nd level to the open part of the DL580 chassis to house all the cards.  The box is big enough they should all fit above it. 

    I want to mimic Sundownz strategy of using every cycle possible to generate income which is why I went for a 4 CPU setup to run the first miner.  If the CPUs can cover the cost of the electricity for all the "real" workers, that's a win!

    What I desperately need to do is get the 50' antenna tower up so I can run my Mimosa equipment for my 750mbps backhaul to a location a mile away that actually has proper Internet.  I'm currently tethering off a 4G phone.  Thank God for AT&T Unlimited.  I blow through over 200GB a month and don't get throttled since network congestion in my area is non existent.  150ms average ping to mining servers though... Sad

    Here is to hoping that I didn't get on the bandwagon too late! Cheesy
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    January 12, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
    If you are comfortable with Linux you should check out SMOS.  It's very user friendly, you actually don't need to know linux at all and you need to worry about RDP or Chrome RDP.  You manage all rigs from a WEBUI.

    Yeah moving to Linux, management was a key point.  Obviously, RDP or CRDP are primarily for Windows and since Sundownz is using W10pro, that was directed for him.  Smiley

    gotcha - I was an all windows guy, all my rigs were windows because having teh RDP capability from my phone anywhere in teh world was important.  But ive been running into more stablity issues that probably could be from windows and or drivers.  So i switched over to linux where I dont have to worry about installing drivers.

    there are a couple other cool linux distros here on the forum as well.  HIVE and the nvOC  .I've looked into them all and they seem just as user friendly.
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    January 12, 2018, 02:16:32 PM
    If you are comfortable with Linux you should check out SMOS.  It's very user friendly, you actually don't need to know linux at all and you need to worry about RDP or Chrome RDP.  You manage all rigs from a WEBUI.

    Yeah moving to Linux, management was a key point.  Obviously, RDP or CRDP are primarily for Windows and since Sundownz is using W10pro, that was directed for him.  Smiley
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    January 12, 2018, 01:15:39 PM
    Sundownz, my wallet would like to thank you for the more than $5k I've spent in the last 24 hours to start my own setup.  In many ways I feel like a big dummy.  Being an IT hardware guy all my life this is right up my alley and really, mining feels no different than running prime95 and submitting results... lol  I should have started this years ago when I was in my 5k sq ft automotive shop and had plenty of power.  I'd be a millionaire by now if I had.  I'm not a trader.  I'm too emotional so I do stupid things with the little bit I've tried.  However, mining is something tangible and I can definitely wrap my head around getting paid for work.

    I dipped my toes in the mining pool finally this week and once I realized that with the hardware I already had (1080, 780 and a 7950) I was going to average $300/m... Well I went a little crazy buying things.  I've got 9 1060s and 3 1080s on the way! lol  

    I bought a DL580 G7 w/ 4 cpus to setup as my first rack.  I'm comfortable in Linux so I figured I'd try to get the one machine up and off the ground to start.  It coming with 4x1200w PSU's made me feel it was good value for the $.  I want to CPU mine and also run 11 GPUs through it.

    I've got lots of space and currently 400A of service.  If all goes well I'm thinking of burying containers in the ground and using geothermal cooling loops to keep the hardware cool as I'm in TX and it gets rather hot down here.

    For the remote access stuff, Google's Chrome Remote Desktop is basically Windows RDP with a FAR nicer interface.  It lists all the PCs and tells you which ones are up or down and even last online time if a box goes down.  I was a hardcore Windows RDP user and I switched to the Chrome version.  All you have to do is run the Chrome RDP installer while you are logged into Chrome and then from anywhere in the world that PC would be accessible when you are logged into Chrome.

    Thanks for all of your posts.  A lot of people don't want to share their secrets or how they are doing things so what you are doing really is helping out the average Joe!



    If you are comfortable with Linux you should check out SMOS.  It's very user friendly, you actually don't need to know linux at all and you need to worry about RDP or Chrome RDP.  You manage all rigs from a WEBUI.

    jr. member
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    January 12, 2018, 01:04:06 PM
    Sundownz, my wallet would like to thank you for the more than $5k I've spent in the last 24 hours to start my own setup.  In many ways I feel like a big dummy.  Being an IT hardware guy all my life this is right up my alley and really, mining feels no different than running prime95 and submitting results... lol  I should have started this years ago when I was in my 5k sq ft automotive shop and had plenty of power.  I'd be a millionaire by now if I had.  I'm not a trader.  I'm too emotional so I do stupid things with the little bit I've tried.  However, mining is something tangible and I can definitely wrap my head around getting paid for work.

    I dipped my toes in the mining pool finally this week and once I realized that with the hardware I already had (1080, 780 and a 7950) I was going to average $300/m... Well I went a little crazy buying things.  I've got 9 1060s and 3 1080s on the way! lol  

    I bought a DL580 G7 w/ 4 cpus to setup as my first rack.  I'm comfortable in Linux so I figured I'd try to get the one machine up and off the ground to start.  It coming with 4x1200w PSU's made me feel it was good value for the $.  I want to CPU mine and also run 11 GPUs through it.

    I've got lots of space and currently 400A of service.  If all goes well I'm thinking of burying containers in the ground and using geothermal cooling loops to keep the hardware cool as I'm in TX and it gets rather hot down here.

    For the remote access stuff, Google's Chrome Remote Desktop is basically Windows RDP with a FAR nicer interface.  It lists all the PCs and tells you which ones are up or down and even last online time if a box goes down.  I was a hardcore Windows RDP user and I switched to the Chrome version.  All you have to do is run the Chrome RDP installer while you are logged into Chrome and then from anywhere in the world that PC would be accessible when you are logged into Chrome.

    Thanks for all of your posts.  A lot of people don't want to share their secrets or how they are doing things so what you are doing really is helping out the average Joe!
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