Topic: bustadice – Dilution fee lowered to 1% - page 19. (Read 37217 times)

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Sigh.. not a troll.  5-500BTC loan for litigation case financing.  The 0.05 loan was legitimate and now no longer needed as my funds were cleared by Coinbase (ACH transfer).

See photo for my primedice account showing the transaction hash

Or just a troll. This user was asking for a 500 BTC loan for "litigation": https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/usa-litigation-financingfunding-honest-request-and-call-for-help-5206716

And then for a 0.05 BTC loan: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/005-btc-loan-24hr-return-0055-5207241


Thanks for confirming.

Transaction Hash: ee4eda28118baa194b43ed1a37dd1d59312119fa0e3760ccf87f2ee5c6fddfa9

I am not making this up nor am I being paid by anyone to post lies here.  The fact is that I sent .14 BTC from my primedice account to my bustadice account.  I also added 2FA to my bustadice account and then shortly thereafter, I was logged out and my account was deleted.

I have kindly asked Daniel Evans to look into this issue, to which I've received a response that it must be my fault?  I have kindly asked Mr. Evans to please provide any and all information that you can about this, including the login times/IP addresses for my account - silence.

So please, I am kindly requesting once more that Mr. Evans provide any and all information with regards to my account that was deleted (not on my own accord) to which I have a balance of .14 BTC.

At the very least, you can be a responsible owner of your gaming site and assist with finding out what happened rather than reply by saying it was my fault or that I'm paid to do write negative things about your site.



On that note, accepting offers to write negative posts about bustadice for .14 BTC.  10 posts for .14 BTC thanks all.

*****EDIT******* The offer above is sarcasm only and not an actual offer to write negative posts about bustadice.  Thanks all.

Either he made a mistake or he is paid by a competitor to post lies here.

Is there proof of transaction if you send it from Primedice to Bustadice?
Users of this site also run Bustabit and Bustadice sites which I think will not commit fraud because of their popularity.

Edited. Sent .14 BTC to account and got deleted after.  Likely hacked and don't know what to do. 

Some good points were brought up in this and bustabit's thread, so I will change the wording in the next patch come Sunday.

Dooglus ruled that I did not "remotely" provide evidence that Daniel said "both sites" where provably-fair to investors.

I have posted that I concede as agreed.  Daniel does not owe me 1.1 BTC or 10 BTC. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52822895

However, you or whoever still need to fix BustaDice so it isn't claiming to be PF to investors.  I will remove my neutral feedback that relates to that after it's been corrected as I've always stated.

gg

Edit #1:  Just to be clear.  The feedback I will remove when BustaDice is no longer making false claims for investors is:

"Claims their sites are provably fair for investors. Investing is absolutely not provably fair for investors by math like it is for players."

This neutral feedback was left on Ryan's and Devin's accounts.  I will remove both after the claim is removed.

Ryan has removed his negative feedback against me (lol fagggggggg).

Ryan has also opened an addition thread for this:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52819518

I have pledged to donate 100% of the 1.1 BTC Ryan said he would give me if I could "remotely" prove that he stated investing was provably-fair.

Yeah, BayAreaCoins has a point: the language on the website should be changed. Although, he's making a mountain out of a mole-hill. It's a minor dot-point 3 pages down:


and it probably means to say something like:



but it's pretty clearly it's not malicious or was intended to mislead people. My very original post on this topic was agreeing that the language should be changed, and I have no doubt Daniel will do it when he becomes aware of it.

But BAC taking out on me is a bit strange. Bustadice is not, and has never has been my site. I did not write that sentence, and have no ability to change the language. If fact, the only reason I am the auditor of bustadice was because at the time I agreed, Daniel was a competitor to me. And who wouldn't want to audit their competitor .  Since then, Daniel bought me out of bustabit -- so it doesn't look good from an "independence", and I'd be more than happy to step down as auditor if someone reputable wants the job

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[I'd also like to point out that I act for auditor for free. But I am not 100% sure about that, as I think I might have originally asked Daniel to pay me for the $20/month or so of server costs in running the auditor. I quite literally can't remember, but either way I have no tangible financial stake in auditing other than protecting my own bankroll investment I independently made in bustadice]

Interestingly there is a point to be made but with much less ego of course.

Yes, it is of course not provably fair if there is a chance of it, which means the provably fair wording should definitely be changed, but that is devans topic not RHavars, RHavar is basically just a consultant of sorts and looking at how the people have been profiting from the gambling I doubt they are working together to scam people, yet that doesn't change the fact that investing requires trust to two people instead of being super totally decentralized way, I trust you guys with all my money that is no problem to me at all but some others may not so the wording should definitely be changed to something that represents the current situation better if you ask me. Not what RHavar said that looks a bit unprofessional, something that is more like "we do business in wall street mate" level of professionalism .

(For anyone that's wondering, RHavar is throwing a fit because of this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52814057.)


That's strange because you sound like an owner here:



Stop telling me what I know and what I am.  I don't know that it isn't your site.  You sure seem pretty involved (for no apparent reason.. perhaps the goodness of your heart or the love for the community *throws up*  ).  We just discussed this in private message two weeks ago:


But... isn't that provably fair if you do trust them!? (sarcasm)

Please send the Bitcoin you now owe me.  My BTC address is: bc1qwupmf3gc6ql8thl3eqmkce6uuur4prj4schw55

Thanks.

I'm sorry, but this is beyond stupid. I actually agree with you about the language on the site needing to be changed. But the fact that you know it's not even my site (i'm just acting as auditor) and in fact, it's never been my site (Daniel built it from the start) makes this extra stupid. So I'll call your bluff and raise you negative.

I respectfully agree with that as well.  That would be an accurate statement.

Let me know when you fix that and I will remove the neautral feedback.

The full dot-point in question is:


which states the caveat pretty explicitly. Although I actually agree with you in that provably-fair is the wrong term for it. I'd probably write the copy as "Assuming you trust the two not to collude, investors are given additional protections against cheating" or something of that sort

I think you are misleading investors that investing is Provably Fair is a bit manipulative.

These games are only Provably Fair proveable fair to players, these investing sites are currently not Provably Fair to investors. (besides maybe PF to you and devan, but it is definitely not PF to me if I invest.)

Investing is not Provably Fair by math.  Period.  Please consider changing this.

I found the man who jinxed the Bustabit bankroll investors  

Losing 33% or so of previously expected returns is a hard hit to take especially when there are not too many options out there where bankroll funds could be transferred to.

Maybe if enough investors raise the issue with devans he might consider lowering the casino edge or at least as you stated maybe consider driving a promotion with those extra profits.

Of course we are not happy, expected returns dropped 1/3. At least that extra edge the casino is getting could be partially used for running some promotion to drive traffic.

How are investors finding the new format?

Are most happy with the commission structure? What sort of feedback are you getting about the change from people that invested?