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Topic: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box (Read 186898 times)

newbie
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A few days ago I replaced the fan of my Rev. 3 unit with a 'Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PE-P - 92mm'. Temperature now is stable at 58°C - 61°C. There is no throttling, average speed is at 820Mh/s. The solution is not perfect as you still can't sleep right next to it, but it is much better than before.
newbie
Activity: 74
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I'd recommend high rpm small fans blowing in the gaps between the singles, and low rpm blowing out the other side. Lips sealed Lips sealed
newbie
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I guess it looks like unless your mining on ASIC/FPGA boards now run via ArmPC's your just a hobbyist, not making anything and just in it for fun of it   Wink
legendary
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Might be worth holding off on this thread for a couple of weeks until people have the devices.  Until then this thread will just attract the 4 or 5 numpties from the other thread and it'll turn to crap in no time.

When the devices start arriving with people, you'll see plenty of info no doubt, (and much less of the 4 or 5 numpties I'm sure).

Has it been 2 weeks?
legendary
Activity: 4466
Merit: 1798
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I have a new one that runs 880 @ 58c without throttling. Anyone else running at a temp that high? Seems like it could damage something..
My one and only BFL runs at 880 - and it wasn't until it was hitting 59/60/61 that it would throttle.
It's now spring here so I moved it down to the garage and it's now running at ~54C but before in winter is was running at 57/58 on the floor next to me without throttling
(I moved it after it started to go above 58)

I still works Smiley

As I've mentioned before, when it was originally running 832 it was OK (after teething problems) for a few months until it started to die -
one of the 2 FPGA often failed to produce any results
Then putting it up to 880 meant that it ran hotter but didn't throttle and worked 100% OK
(until spring)
legendary
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Merit: 1000
I have a new one that runs 880 @ 58c without throttling. Anyone else running at a temp that high? Seems like it could damage something..
If the 800 runs at 58C, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
sr. member
Activity: 392
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I have a new one that runs 880 @ 58c without throttling. Anyone else running at a temp that high? Seems like it could damage something..
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250


I haven't had a chance to fix BF6 yet, but most units seem to run 896 pretty well.

Damn that's sexy. What's your cooling setup? Cases off?

Cases are on, I replaced the main fan with a 4,000 rpm delta on most of them. Replacing thermal paste can help also.
sr. member
Activity: 392
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Where'd you get an unpopulated PCB, Cuz?

It was a courtesy gift from a batch that was not used.
sr. member
Activity: 447
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I haven't had a chance to fix BF6 yet, but most units seem to run 896 pretty well.

Damn that's sexy. What's your cooling setup? Cases off?
legendary
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Merit: 1004
Where'd you get an unpopulated PCB, Cuz?
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250


Took this pic today, not sure if anyone has one posted.
sr. member
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I haven't had a chance to fix BF6 yet, but most units seem to run 896 pretty well.
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 100
Does anyone know if they released temp stats that these things are supposed to throttle at? Seems like they are quite different per device.

I just moved to a warmer location and had to downgrade firmware to 816, and I'm still seeing occasional throttles depending on the day. (I was running 896 with no throttles previously Smiley)

They have said that they are VERY temperature sensitive, and are designed to be run with an ambient temperature of 72F (23C).

Well I understand that. But the ambient temperature of my singles are about the same, considering they are in the same location. The throttling must be caused by going over and internally set temperature threshold. Wasn't sure if it was the same for the singles or not (it seems to be around 56C from what I've seen in cgminer).

Mine throttles at different temps depending on the firmware.
800 = 58C
808 = 56C
816 = 54C
824 = Something's wrong with this firmware (it hashes but at very slow speed and throttles even at low temps)
832 = 50C
864 = 48C

The 864 and higher firmwares throttle every few seconds unless I put the unit infront of the AC. And seeing other people posting screenshots of their singles running higher firmwares at higher temps leads me to believe that the unit throttles not according to the chips' temps but to the ambient temp (or temp of some other chip on the board). The 768 firmware is the only one I can run the unit on inside it's case.
legendary
Activity: 4466
Merit: 1798
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Just wanted to report back that upgrading cgminer helped dramatically (2.4.3->2.7.5). Raised average speeds to within a few Mhash of firmware and dropped rejects dramatically. Overall gained ~40Mhash.

OLD:

https://i.imgur.com/nG5AQ.png

NEW:

https://i.imgur.com/GvPTQ.png


BFL 2 throttled a bit the other day due to unseasonably warm weather, but still runs faster than the next lower firmware.

Thanks for the help  Grin
That increase is specifically due to the change ckolivas did not long after 2.4.3 (in 2.5.0) back in July
The BFL code in cgminer aborts work when it gets an LP and starts on new work.
Thus rather than wasting a whole nonce range (that will be stale/rejected) before starting new work - it aborts the work when it gets the LP and thus wastes on average only half a nonce range.
This is of course due to the BFL Single design - there's no way around it.
That reduction of half a nonce range should match to the increase you got (if LP rate was the same for both runs)
Basically the change I put in Icarus back in Apr finally got into BFL in July (I annoyed ckolivas about it a few times Smiley)
Beelzebub wouldn't do it when asked back in May Tongue (except in his own private version)
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
Just wanted to report back that upgrading cgminer helped dramatically (2.4.3->2.7.5). Raised average speeds to within a few Mhash of firmware and dropped rejects dramatically. Overall gained ~40Mhash.

OLD:



NEW:




BFL 2 throttled a bit the other day due to unseasonably warm weather, but still runs faster than the next lower firmware.

Thanks for the help  Grin
hero member
Activity: 981
Merit: 500
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If your unit is now throttling more, possibly try cleaning the dust out of it. These things kinda collect a bunch and hair on the intake vents. Well depending on if there is much of it. And they collect dust in the heatsink fairly impressivly. It could be the overall airflow through the device and 24/7 operation.
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
Does anyone know if they released temp stats that these things are supposed to throttle at? Seems like they are quite different per device.

I just moved to a warmer location and had to downgrade firmware to 816, and I'm still seeing occasional throttles depending on the day. (I was running 896 with no throttles previously Smiley)

They have said that they are VERY temperature sensitive, and are designed to be run with an ambient temperature of 72F (23C).

Well I understand that. But the ambient temperature of my singles are about the same, considering they are in the same location. The throttling must be caused by going over and internally set temperature threshold. Wasn't sure if it was the same for the singles or not (it seems to be around 56C from what I've seen in cgminer).
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
Does anyone know if they released temp stats that these things are supposed to throttle at? Seems like they are quite different per device.

I just moved to a warmer location and had to downgrade firmware to 816, and I'm still seeing occasional throttles depending on the day. (I was running 896 with no throttles previously Smiley)

They have said that they are VERY temperature sensitive, and are designed to be run with an ambient temperature of 72F (23C).
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
Does anyone know if they released temp stats that these things are supposed to throttle at? Seems like they are quite different per device.

I just moved to a warmer location and had to downgrade firmware to 816, and I'm still seeing occasional throttles depending on the day. (I was running 896 with no throttles previously Smiley)
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