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Topic: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box - page 39. (Read 186944 times)

sr. member
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Dave, hate to break it to you, but they won't be shipping yours next week.

But the order confirmation page said it was guaranteed!

I'll be glad to reimburse you for your place in line for the single you ordered if you decide to go the refund route.
legendary
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Dave, hate to break it to you, but they won't be shipping yours next week.
But the order confirmation page said it was guaranteed!

Yes, yes it did. Look on the bright side: they've been really good about issuing refunds.
sr. member
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Dave, hate to break it to you, but they won't be shipping yours next week.

But the order confirmation page said it was guaranteed!
legendary
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I'm about 5 weeks into the 4-6 week delivery period on my 2 Bitforce Singles now, so hopefully they'll ship next week!
I placed a order almost 10 weeks ago. I doubt it will be here any time soon. The third expected delivery date has come and gone. Apparently they are scared to give out realistic delivery dates, so they just lie instead. I gave up on getting a honest delivery date. Looks like there several months behind though.
Cuz, you are close. They are into their end-of-Jan/start-of-Feb orders now.

Dave, hate to break it to you, but they won't be shipping yours next week.
sr. member
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I'm about 5 weeks into the 4-6 week delivery period on my 2 Bitforce Singles now, so hopefully they'll ship next week!

I placed a order almost 10 weeks ago. I doubt it will be here any time soon. The third expected delivery date has come and gone. Apparently they are scared to give out realistic delivery dates, so they just lie instead. I gave up on getting a honest delivery date. Looks like there several months behind though.
sr. member
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So I bring the remaining two Singles from this week's shipment of three online yesterday evening and leave them mining overnight.

Guess what.

One of their "Made in China" power supplies died overnight, green LED off.  Cry

I'm not even going to send it back for an exchange - I'm just going to cut off its 12V cable and attach it to a industrial-grade (Vicor Power) 12V supply.


Inspector, we can send you a replacement power supply straight away.  No need to send yours back.  Just contact office @ butterflylabs.com.  Also, don't worry about having fried your unit, they're designed to protect themselves.

BFL

I don't want a replacement. I have a bunch of professional Vicor Power 12V bricks, most of them 300W (good for 3 Singles, each) and one 600W (good for 7 Singles) and they are really efficient.
Btw., I measured the no-load voltage on one of the working BFL power bricks, and it was over 20V, which is a sign of a really cheap power supply, which I wouldn't want to use for anything at all. Just to let you know.
BFL
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So I bring the remaining two Singles from this week's shipment of three online yesterday evening and leave them mining overnight.

Guess what.

One of their "Made in China" power supplies died overnight, green LED off.  Cry

I'm not even going to send it back for an exchange - I'm just going to cut off its 12V cable and attach it to a industrial-grade (Vicor Power) 12V supply.


Inspector, we can send you a replacement power supply straight away.  No need to send yours back.  Just contact office @ butterflylabs.com.  Also, don't worry about having fried your unit, they're designed to protect themselves.

BFL
sr. member
Activity: 344
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I'm about 5 weeks into the 4-6 week delivery period on my 2 Bitforce Singles now, so hopefully they'll ship next week!
legendary
Activity: 922
Merit: 1003
So I bring the remaining two Singles from this week's shipment of three online yesterday evening and leave them mining overnight.

Guess what.

One of their "Made in China" power supplies died overnight, green LED off.  Cry

I'm not even going to send it back for an exchange - I'm just going to cut off its 12V cable and attach it to a industrial-grade (Vicor Power) 12V supply.

I believe this is the first report of a BFL field failure. Let's hope your dying PSU didn't fry your Single while it was in its death throes. That would be bad.

I've been using spare ATX 80+ Gold supplies instead of the supplied bricks. Though it is a PITA to crimp/solder the cables and plugs, there are benefits: (1) more efficient supply (7%-10%), thus less power loss/heat; (2) less cable clutter and power outlets; and (3) IMHO the ATX supply should be more reliable and better protected than the stock brick.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
So I bring the remaining two Singles from this week's shipment of three online yesterday evening and leave them mining overnight.

Guess what.

One of their "Made in China" power supplies died overnight, green LED off.  Cry

I'm not even going to send it back for an exchange - I'm just going to cut off its 12V cable and attach it to a industrial-grade (Vicor Power) 12V supply.
BFL
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Is there anything else one can do with Single or MiniRig than mine bitcoins. Just wondering what kind of "insurance" I have if BTC crashes.

Before I ordered my Rig Box (now two Mini-Rigs), Sonny told me (just a paraphrase from memory) that I shouldn't consider the value of the hardware for other uses in any part of my decision on whether to make a purchase, as there is currently no other use for them.  However, he also said that if BTC did crash and become worthless, they would probably release their development toolkit so their customers could attempt to recover something on the hardware investment.

Hi guys, sorry to jump in on your conversation but this comment was pointed out to me and I wanted to take the opportunity to clarify as this question has come up quite a lot.

Our alternate purpose firmware has been set aside in favor of focusing our efforts on the larger BTC mining market.  Our project started before BTC and when time allows, we will complete firmware development in those areas.  However, because we've stopped development for those markets we want to make it clear that purchasing our hardware should be a decision based on it's BTC mining value alone.
sr. member
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Is there anything else one can do with Single or MiniRig than mine bitcoins. Just wondering what kind of "insurance" I have if BTC crashes.

Before I ordered my Rig Box (now two Mini-Rigs), Sonny told me (just a paraphrase from memory) that I shouldn't consider the value of the hardware for other uses in any part of my decision on whether to make a purchase, as there is currently no other use for them.  However, he also said that if BTC did crash and become worthless, they would probably release their development toolkit so their customers could attempt to recover something on the hardware investment.
hero member
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It figures that right after I cash out a bunch of bitcoins to buy several BFL singles, the price of bitcoins starts climbing.
rjk
sr. member
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1ngldh
Is there anything else one can do with Single or MiniRig than mine bitcoins. Just wondering what kind of "insurance" I have if BTC crashes.

People have been saying that there is currently no other use for the Singles, unless BFL supplies an alternate bitstream....

however, reading this thread:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.811855 gives the impression that even if the chips have an encrypted bitstream, that an open stream can still be installed on them. Of course it depends on what kind of chip is being used.
Yeah you would have to know exactly the make and model of the chip, and I don't think anyone knows it yet.
hero member
Activity: 481
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Is there anything else one can do with Single or MiniRig than mine bitcoins. Just wondering what kind of "insurance" I have if BTC crashes.

People have been saying that there is currently no other use for the Singles, unless BFL supplies an alternate bitstream....

however, reading this thread:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.811855 gives the impression that even if the chips have an encrypted bitstream, that an open stream can still be installed on them. Of course it depends on what kind of chip is being used.
sr. member
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I just wish the delivery times weren't so damn long.

Is there anything else one can do with Single or MiniRig than mine bitcoins. Just wondering what kind of "insurance" I have if BTC crashes.

How long have you been waiting for the MiniRig guys?
sr. member
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I run all of mine off the same "instance" of cgminer too. Works great. Display is messed up in 2.3.3 for me though it seems. I just got finished reading the cgminer thread. Seems its an issue thats been fixed but no new Windows binary yet.

jddebug, if you have more than 8 devices, cgminer no longer displays each individual device. This was a "fix" in 2.3.3.

I will have to run several instances of it then. I don't like fixes that break things.
vip
Activity: 1358
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AKA: gigavps
I run all of mine off the same "instance" of cgminer too. Works great. Display is messed up in 2.3.3 for me though it seems. I just got finished reading the cgminer thread. Seems its an issue thats been fixed but no new Windows binary yet.

jddebug, if you have more than 8 devices, cgminer no longer displays each individual device. This was a "fix" in 2.3.3.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Is there any MTTF/MTBF/FIT data available on these? Has any such testing even been done? If not, is there any word on the exact components being used so we could find MTTF/MTBF/FIT data on the components at least?
No, No and No.
hero member
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Is there any MTTF/MTBF/FIT data available on these? Has any such testing even been done? If not, is there any word on the exact components being used so we could find MTTF/MTBF/FIT data on the components at least?
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