Topic: Butterfly Labs shipping 300 units a day - page 6. (Read 29026 times)

BFL delivery estimates are a moving target so it's not surprising you might have missed this one.  This update moving the target again appears to have been penned about 5 days after he wrote the one about clearing the back log by end of August.  I would expect sometime in the next couple of weeks we will hear how it will be end of October and so on (until the house of cards comes tumbling down!).

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/3703-josh-its-time-update-bfl-asic-status.html#post45852
I did talk to suppliers and ran some calculations. With the current order book up to today, I expect it to be filled by the end of September. I'm not sure what order number we'll get up to by the end of August, but we'll be pretty far into it by then. I'll probably have a better idea by the middle of this month.

Well Phinnaeus (I think) got that info from a post where Josh said he expected the backlog to be cleared by the end of August or something like that.

EDIT: He says it here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/3611-buttefly-company-still-work-not-3.html#post44788

From Josh:

It looks like nobody who ordered in 2013 will get their order this year, if ever - or get their investment back on their purchase...

Mr Phinnaeus Gage,
Every time I see your avatar I get a chuckle. I think the red highlights how overheated your frontal lobe gets, constantly obsessing about BFL and associated characters.
I sure hope your condition is not impairing you in other aspects of your life.

I ordered a 7GH/s Jalapeno last month.  I don't care if it takes a year to arrive.  ROI isn't important to me.  It's not even a consideration, really.

Hopefully those who have got ROI in the forefront of their minds will get refunds, making my order shuffle it's way closer to the front of the queue.

It looks like nobody who ordered in 2013 will get their order this year, if ever - or get their investment back on their purchase.

Pretty cool stuff. I applaud anyone who cancelled their order as having great foresight.

EDIT: He says it here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/3611-buttefly-company-still-work-not-3.html#post44788

From Josh:
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Yes, I still expect us to be through the back orders by the end of August.

Well Phinnaeus (I think) got that info from a post where Josh said he expected the backlog to be cleared by the end of August or something like that.

EDIT: He says it here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/3611-buttefly-company-still-work-not-3.html#post44788

From Josh:

Is BFL cranking out these things?

We are standardizing a lot of our equipment, so we can keep massive quantities of inventory on hand (at least 6 months of production work is the goal), allowing us to crank out units - literally - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week if need be.  We've hired more personnel and will be hiring yet more people as we gear up.   

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BFL_Jody  , 07-29-2013 at 09:50 PM

Jalapenos: None shipped today
Little Singles: One shipped today (okay I gave you an actual count!)
Singles: The bulk of our orders shipped today were Singles from pay dates 6/23, 6/24 and 6/25
MiniRigs: None shipped today

Sarcasm or not, 1 month for delivery sounds good after so much wait

Indeed, the bottom line is we are working to improve customer service and our shipping times.  We just shipped orders from the first of August, so we are getting caught up there.  I have been working hard on the customer service issue as well as the shipping issues.  We are also working very hard on getting the ASICs out the door on time.  We are really beefing up our production capacity and moving everything we can in house.  We've purchased a pick and place machine, an oven, stenciler and other equipment to manufacture all the boards in house.  This means we can produce as many boards as we need without being at the mercy of board manufacturers and their timing/runs. 

Our ASIC chip is 100% original IP and we will have as many chips as we need, when we need them.  We are standardizing a lot of our equipment, so we can keep massive quantities of inventory on hand (at least 6 months of production work is the goal), allowing us to crank out units - literally - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week if need be.  We've hired more personnel and will be hiring yet more people as we gear up.   

The ASIC generation is going to be much less complex, as well, so there will be less steps to creating a fully functional end unit, and we will also be able to assemble/produce the much faster.  Everything you know about BFL is changing now and will continue to change.  The only thing I can do is assure you we understand the concerns and we are doing everything we can to address the past mistakes. 

Sarcasm or not, 1 month for delivery sounds good after so much wait

I'm also sure there was a bit of sarcasm in there since he seems to dislike BFL from what I've read!

I don't think it has anything to do with profit margin, most crypto miners don't seem to bet bright enough to consider such things first. More likely it is the "up size" mentality drummed into the consumer culture, why buy an efficient small car when you can have an SUV? Just borrow more, and spend a fortune on running it. Efficiency was never part of the equation, just having more is all that matters.

Go big, or go home. Your attitude likely weakens your profit margin.

If everyone had just ordered Jalepenos the entire BTC net would have been better off, greed for bigger and bigger rigs will kill the ROI for everyone. Avalon made a huge mistake launching a 60GH/s rig straight up, too much of a leap from FPGA. It started a trend which is already causing problems. They should have simply sold 10 x the number of 6GH/s rigs. for a much better balanced net, and they could have charged more per GH/s.

Many humans suffer from greed, ordering big rigs straight up is an obvious example of this, like dogs competing for a food bowl.