For some people there may be those who invest without capital, but for others or most people the main requirement is capital, on the contrary I have not found people who invest without capital, in my opinion, I do not agree with the absence of capital, because the slightest thing, the will or desire of a person can be said to be capital, to be confident.
Being able to invest into something like bitcoin is called having disposable income. There is no need for capital, as I already mentioned several times.. but you want to argue about it.
When you invest in bitcoin it means you have disposable money and in that case i also will not regard it as capital so don’t understand why he keeps arguing about this, I think maybe because he lacks understanding about it but i don’t get why a junior member rank will want to argue with a legendary rank with experience? Keeping a cool head and being loyal is the best way to gain knowledge and not argue even when you feel you are right.
I don't have any problem with arguing if some kind of a meaningful point was being made, and of course, any of us can be wrong or phrase things badly, so the back and forth will sometimes clarify areas in which we might differ, including if we don't agree.
One of the difficulties of making a kind of absolute assertion such as the one that Reredmi896 was making is that he is not completely wrong - except that he expressed the need for capital as an absolute, and then even after I gave him a specific example in which his absolute was not correct, he still continued to insist that there is a need for capital to invest into bitcoin.
So maybe I am criticizing him more for his ongoing arguing about a wrong point rather than proclaiming that he should not be arguing.. yet we have the problem of both being wrong and then arguing about it, even after being shown specifically how the point that he was making was wrong.
It is difficult to take guys like that seriously, but yeah, let's see if he comes back and continues to try to argue that same point or if there might be some kind of a clarification that he is able to make.. or maybe he might just admit that there are cases in which what he said is wrong.
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Why can't lower-ranking members debate with higher-ranking members? Does the forum have any regulations about that? And that shows you lack respect for newbies, they don't have the right to learn, don't have the right to express their investment opinions?
I agree that those who have been in the markets for a long time will have more experience, but everyone has a different view on investing and just because they don't have the same view as us doesn't mean they are wrong and we are right. Furthermore, sometimes newbies don't have too much understanding and arguing is a good thing because it shows they are trying to learn. Maybe right now they don't understand and are stubborn with their views, but maybe later they will thank us when they understand everything.
I largely agree with you. Newbies have the right to argue about whatever they like, and it is even better if they are able to back up their points with facts, logic and/or reasonable conclusions.. and even opinions that may or may not be well expressed..
And, yeah, sometimes it will take quite a bit of back and forth battling before any of us might figure out if there are good or bad arguments being made.... At the same time, some of the longer term forum members might be bad with their own ways of expressing themselves, including but not limited to yours truly.. and it can be quite good that another member point out those weaknesses, illogicalities, confusing areas and/or other substantive and/or style problems.
You seem to be arguing and quibbling with the main points that I was making, which was to rebutt your assertion that investing does not give up anything in the current time, which it likely does, and if it does not then you may well be investing way too whimpily.
Sure your level of aggressiveness is a choice, yet your earlier blanket statement that investing into bitcoin does not contribute to giving anything up seems to be factually wrong, whether a person is investing whimpily or aggressively, and even if he ONLY invests $10 per month, he is still giving something up by dedicating that amount to bitcoin rather than buying a couple extra cups of coffee... or however he might have chosen to otherwise spend or use or save the $10.
That's not what I meant and moreover I support everything you have said in the post I quoted, but in this case you might interpret it in another direction, so sorry if that makes you upset.
I usually don't get upset in regards to posts, and so far I have not considered myself to be upset in our back and forth discussion of these matters.
But I always support every point you have explained and I want to strengthen it with my explanation, perhaps what I explain is a bit difficult for other people to understand.
I support what you said in the previous post that they act aggressively to buy bitcoin by selling cars and saving their monthly expenses to invest in bitcoin. And here I just add a few points from my idea that if they are beginners who invest all their income, of course they are not ready when everything happens to the market, for example a 50% drop.
Sure BTC accumulators (investors) can overdo their ongoing allocation and then have regrets when the BTC price drops, but they can also under do and have regrets when the price rises.
As for the second point, I also support your point, when they get additional income, of course they can use that money to buy bitcoin aggressively ( when they get additional income).
On the other hand, I support everything you have said and there are many useful points for those who are beginners in investing in bitcoin. They can start from $10 or depending on their ability to manage their cash flow.
There still was a reason that I gave those examples in the first place, and it had to do with a claim that you made regarding people being able to invest in ways that they would not be sacrificing anything, so that's most likely the reason I gave the examples in the first place, and so we may well be making various different points, and some of the main points might have had gotten lost in the whole process, to the extent that any of it matters in the first place... which my main reasons for responding to the first of your posts in this series of discussions was that I was claiming that almost no matter how much a person invests, whether it is $10 per month or $1k per week, there is going to be sacrifices in the present for the future, and yeah, sure we can imagine really extreme examples where nothing is missed, and those would most likely happen to be whimpy investors.. but yeah, whatever, all of these details and examples might mot even be that important, if we are losing the context (or reasons) regarding why they were brought up in the first place.
but looking from the perspective bitcoin buying a dip in an uptrend seems to be a good idea... I wouldn't give it a trading option only too as its a strategy to buy more with less fund so it's pretty much a good strategy just that the "only" attached is not suitable for beginners who have no reasonable amount yet waiting for dip could just be the most stupid that could be done 
