Topic: Buy the DIP, and HODL! - page 28. (Read 128982 times)

Unforeseen circumstances must be part of your investment plan when you are starting your bitcoin journey by setting up an emergency funds to take care of such problems. If a new investor does not have an emergency funds in the beginning of his investment, he can set it up with one part of his discretionary income and use the other to be investing in bitcoin along side. Your emergency funds should be at least three months of your monthly salary.

Any investor who does not have an emergency funds and is investing in bitcoin is gambling because when a real emergency arises, he will sell part of his bitcoin at loss even if the price is dip because you must solve such emergency.

How do you know that a dip will come that will make bitcoin price go to 88k. Don't you see that more people are buying bitcoin currently than selling and that's why the price is pumping, because they understand that soon government will start buying bitcoin aggressively overtime and they are using this opportunity to acquire more bitcoin before that time since many investors are now eyeing bitcoin as the new asset that can multiply their funds in the long run.

It might shock you that 100k is likely to be achieved by the end of this month than 88k because we only have 2k+ for bitcoin to reach 100k, and the price touched 98k today. Bitcoin is closer to 100k than 88k so we will see 100k price first. If you are waiting for the price to dip before buying, and you are consoling yourself that bitcoin will reach 88k, you are still sitting on the fence waiting while others are busy buying and stacking their bitcoin stash for the future. I hope you don't regret it if you are waiting for the dip before buying because it's a wrong approach, and you can start buying right away with DCA and grow your portfolio weekly overtime if you have the funds.

My explanation in regards to this, is just an example to let him know the range at which bitcoin will climb to meet up the standard of the market cap of gold. But however it will surely supersede the ball mark of $550k to $600k. Like I said it was just a mear assumption of which I included that it will need to grow by 6x to 7x to meet gold, which implies that it will surely surpas the $600k to achieve that.

You are actually correct though, but we should also consider that Gold has been an asset that has lasted for decade and bitcoin is Bearly 15years old now compeard to gold. So surely if bitcoin is 15years and  achieved %20 of Gold market cap, meaning that if bitcoin surely reaches 30years it will do wonders. Morover investors are switching to the most volatile asset bitcoin thereby increasing the market cap of bitcoin. So surely there is a competitive Market. The reason while gold has such market carp was because it was the best reserved asset as at then. But now Bitcoin has proven to be better than gold, bitcoin will gain popularity and attention.

It's a fact that many sell orders are already set on $100k. But there will be investors that are also waiting for some to catch from the sellers.

As a support, this is a good price.

I just want to quote myself again.

Me, too. But, I think for 100K, even though it is very close, it still needs time and it could be the end of December or early January 2025. My view is that currently many are selling temporarily and in the near future we will also enter the weekend holiday period.

88K is very potential to be awaited.

Looks like the celebration at 100kish price is closer than I thought as we can all see that Bitcoin at 100k is in sight, I had my thoughts but the perseverance and Unshakable Faith of the veterans in this thread to keep hodling is indeed remarkable.

 in this thread countless knowledge as been shared, Supportive community formed, new hodlers like myself as been inspired as well. I must say that I have finally learned that Long term Vision outweighs short term gain and patience is key in volatile market.

HOLD THE LINE, 100k IN SIGHT. 

Your calculations are correct but it will take more than that for Bitcoin to surpass Gold. This is because we know that it will take two or more cycle for Bitcoin to get to $550k or $600k and within these years Gold will not just sit at one point without increases. Only this year, 1 ounce of Gold moved from $2,150 to $2,600. Although Marketcap isnt a big deal to me. An increase in the market cap does not mean equal amount of money was put into the asset. Bitcoin marketcap if Gold and Bitcoin has similar marketcap the value of Bitcoin would be far way worth more than Gold.

Going through your coment I found out a thread created in regards to this Which says When will Bitcoin catch up with Gold in capitalization?
But nevertheless after a deep thought I discover that the market capitalisation of bitcoin to equate with gold is easy using the formula Price of coin × total supply = market cap for example if 1BTC @$96000 × 21m supply of bitcoin= $2.16trillion meaning that for bitcoin to compete with gold Market cap it must surely be 1BTC @$550 - 600k × 21million= 11.5Tr to 12.6Tr. so surely it is easy to determine by this formula even though it might not give the exact figure but must be approximately. So when you think of bitcoin cap to compete gold think of 6x to 7x of bitcoin growth from now.

It will definitely be more than that. But it's a bull market, it's a time when bull posts will have a higher tendency of being more "excessively bullish" and more extravagant.

Although, a bull post of "Bitcoin to surge to $10,000 per coin" during its early days was probably "excessive" and "extravagant" as well.

    

What do you really think i meant taking time to learn about Bitcoin? Literally i don't mean you have to take long like a month or two to learn about Bitcoin before you can start investing. Moreover we can start our investment when we have the basic knowledge. I don't expect someone who knows thing about securing their Bitcoin or buying from CEX and transferring them to their wallet ti start investing in Bitcoin. Its no magic, we must know about this before we can start investing even if we have all the money in the world.

You are completely driving yourself astray in this discussion. A complete newbie cannot understand the reason why they want to HODL if they haven't made personal research or learn about it. You are making Bitcoin investment to look like something you just wake up in the morning and just throw some cash into it. When you don't know how to buy it, where to put it or how to provide security. And most importantly what to do in possible case scenario. Wake up buddy! before you end up misleading people around you.

I can agree with this. Being able to understand Bitcoin doesn't mean they want to start investing immediately. Everyone has their choice and would love to invest at their own pace. But i have met people who understand Bitcoin and are skeptical about investing in it while others has little or no knowledge about the asset but are willing. Still, its not advisable to jump into Bitcoin without knowing little about it. The reason is, once you really know how Bitcoin works, it is difficult to back out of it. The problem is that many people don't want to learn they just want to start profiting.

unforeseen circumstances are very much a part of life and whether you prepare for it or not, life happens and you don't have a choice that face it squarely when it happens, this is the reason why when we talk about investing in bitcoin for the long term, we don't like to do so while neglecting the place of making provision for an emergency fund. if you've adequately made the right provision for your emergency, you protect both yourself and your investment from unnecessary fingering when emergency comes in.

it will be foolishness to assume that emergency wouldn't come at some point in time, and it will be more foolish to assume that without making provision for an emergency fund you can afford to keep holding on to your bitcoin without selling it just because you've decided not to sell your bitcoin holding. unforeseen circumstances are an obstacle that can hinder you from successfully investing in your bitcoin but when you adequately plan for it, you can easily overcome it without interfering with your investment to solving those needs.

you are absolutely right.
we have a local adage that goes (problem no de finish) which means that there is always one problem or the other at any point in time. you just have to get used to them and plan for as many as you can handle while doing what's most important for you. if you stop investing because of a problem or slows down on your investment or even sell your bitcoin to sort out your needs, the fact still remains that more problem will eventually come up again in the future that you might lack the resource to handle them and that's when you will understand that you can still survive without paying attention to some of these p[problems.

one reason why the concept of investing what you can afford to lose always makes sense in some way is that it allows you to treat your investment as though it's no longer your own. meaning that regardless of the emergency that comes up, you will strive to solve them as though you don't have your bitcoin holding at a corner. this gives you the discipline not to always assume that your bitcoin investment can always be used to sort out any minor needs or emergency.

Bitcoin's market capitalization achievement, which has now reached USD 1.77 trillion, is proof that Bitcoin is an asset that is increasingly accepted and will even continue to develop into a potential investment alternative in the global arena. Bitcoin is the 10th largest asset in the world, currently in 8th position and has beaten silver which is currently in 9th position with a market value of USD 1.70 trillion.


Of course we have to HODL longer, because that is very possible.

I think you misunderstood cryptoprincess point above. He's not referring to doubting bitcoin investment or getting distracted with your investment. He's probably referring to immature selling of your bitcoin investment due to unforseen circumstances and this will shorten your investment journey despite having a clear objective and strategies for your investment.

Unforeseen circumstances can never be avoided thou but I don't really see it as an obstacle to someone from reaching the goal set aside for their bitcoin investment. There is something we called contingency plan and while designing your planning prior to beginning of your investment, contingency plan is very necessary as it is going to handle possible circumstances while your investment remains intact.

If you keep on interfering with your investment due to unforseen circumstances, I'm afraid you might end up with no investment and unforseen circumstance will keep repeating itself.

If bitcoin were to reach a market value equilibrium similar to GOLD then this would need to be above $300K perhaps or even $500K, this is not impossible as bitcoin would be equivalent to the market value of GOLD on a market capitalist basis.

Just imagine every cycle bitcoin goes up 2x - 4x then the equilibrium will be equivalent to GOLD.

We need to HODL even longer.

Don't care about the words of people who don't like Bitcoin because every time we have is a very valuable capital for us to use on better things for ourselves. You just need to focus on your own plan and ignore the words of people who still doubt Bitcoin until now, even though today I have seen that Bitcoin has been able to break through the price level of $97K and even almost reached the level of $98K. This means that Bitcoin could reach the level of $100K this month if the increase in its price itself can continue as it is now without being hampered by the level of price correction in the near future. Because now the condition is indeed quite bullish for the price of Bitcoin.

Trying to take time to study and have all knowledge about Bitcoin doesn't guarantee that such person can be able to invest and hodl for long, it is when you have prepared for Bitcoin investment that you can be able to invest and HODL, after having some basic guild about Bitcoin investment and your mind is made up and money is there to invest you can invest and HODL for long because your mind is already made up to invest into Bitcoin even when the market dip you won't panic instead keep on accumulating because your mind is made up also for a long time purpose, if there is a good source of income and you have made your discretionary income and emergency fund available with your mind made up you can actually invest and HODL Bitcoin for long, because there are people who have study Bitcoin as you Said who may not be able to invest and HODL due to no enough finance and their minds hasn't been made up.

When you make decisions for the future, every decision is based on assumptions and not all of them are likely to come to fruition, but you are encouraged to proceed with a positive attitude. Just as we must rely 100% on assumptions about the future, we can be determined to act based on them. Similarly if we continue to speculate and add discretionary income accordingly for Bitcoin accumulation, one should be mentally cheerful because the holdings you will get from long-term savings can surely give you a lot of success.

The basic investment levels that you should be aware of when investing in Bitcoin are if you follow each correctly and the assumption that the base level is getting stronger, you should have a confident tendency to continue depositing Bitcoins.



Estimates are exactly what you'll see in real life.

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1859460854313336853

Shower thought. The question might not be IF Bitcoin surges and reaches parity against Gold's Total Market Valuation. The question probably should be how much more valued would Bitcoin be WHEN and AFTER it reaches parity against Gold's Total Market Valuation.

Bitcoin Total Market Valuation - $1.90 Trillion
Gold Total Market Valuation - $17.0 Trillion

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Actually its true that's why should not play around with our money like putting it in trading especially if they don't want to lose it since for sure they would suffer those huge risk especially that doing this activity might result them to financial lose especially if they have less knowledge to deal with their trades. Also it needs strong heart so you can withstand on those challenges since there are FUDs and other negative that will test your emotion so you need to have this to make everything looks well on your long term goals with bitcoin.

Bitcoin investment is really simple especially if they going to decide to go long term since what they only need to do is to accumulate and follow those good strategy they could able to use. We also have good proper financial management to deal properly with our investment since we also need to have good assessment so that we can figure out our capability so that we can work everything well without struggling on other important things needed to take care. 4 - 10 years is good to take by bitcoin investors since there's potential good result that they can earn if they decide to go with this option.

I disagree with that statement even if you have tried to clear some air about it. Ill prefer to say that "Only those who take the time to study and grasp knowledge on Bitcoin can invest and HODL". The more you know about it, the more comfortable you get when you invest in it. The aspect of knowing that Bitcoin is suitable for long-term investment is very important. Only in this process of holding, we can discover the true value of Bitcoin.

Thanks for pointing these out. I think procrastination and lack of learning are the biggest factors why many are so reluctant to start their investment. Every other factor can be resolved while we have started out investment. Knowing what we want and what we can get in the long term if we invest in Bitcoin is a big motivation to keep focus on patience irrespective of any current market condition.