Topic: Buyer Beware - MSI RX 470 Quality - page 3. (Read 7204 times)

np hope it helps btw made a few edits

Thx for infos & feedback, very useful read !

rating my cards in order :

XFX high end card 8GB the large one  - this one can undervolt to to even -125 mv before freezing dual or single mining eth.  If i had unlimted funds its the one i would buy
Ref 480 4GB and 8GB
XFX low end cards - problem with these is you cannot undervolt so they waste a ton of power not buying these anymore but they are of good quality
Powercolor 8GB - flakey cards  *edit* meant to say they can undervolt but only say around -87 mv on the core -12 using wattman vs -16 or -100 mv with the XFX high end and the ref 480s ,decent quality none have died
Saphire Nitro non ref all models 480,470  - nice with dual bios but they are terrible on the ram side , all with Hynix if 4GB or less and hit or miss on the OC , 2 of 20 died completely need to RMA
Msi frozer 480s and 470s - horrible OC cards need high voltage on the 480s to get decent hash rate which means power is wasted, out of my 20 470s 5 are bad, one actually burned up in the slot runing a motherboard
Saphire Nitro 470 ref - pure junk 3 of six are bad and freeze in any board i put them, ran well for a month or so , poor OC'ers some have elphida ram suppsoedly better cards but they all sucked for me

I have some other brands i'm testing not enough data on those

best bang for buck is these ones
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131696
but only if they have the newer samsung ram , i ordered 12 or so six had samsung it wil OC to 2125 and hash eth at 29.6 easily but again these cards are high volotage you cant under volt them more than 50mv
but since they are 470s they use the same power as the ref 480s with that modest undervolt and hash the same speed nearly.

Problem is how do you know what ram you will get , which is why i stick to ref 480s of the visiontek 470s 28.9 mhs on those

maybe i just had bad luck , but I know for sure the most solid cards are the ref 480 cards, they undervolt the most to -100mv even mining anything at max power
 all my ref 480s OC the same to 2125 mem with no issues unlike the MSI cards and Nitros which are hit or miss , I basically just OC any non ref card to 1935 mem so i dont have to waste time figuring out the sweet spot for each damn card.

I have heard good things about power color cards with samsung memory (470s) the power color red devil with 4GB ram, I ordered six and they came with junk hynix ram which wont OC past 1950

I do have one RX 480 the high end XFX card , that one has insane cooloing and OC's just as well as the ref 480s but it expensive at $279.

I also have a few of the Visiontek ref 470s with elphida ram and those OC nicely but i've only had them for a week.

What is your BIOS name for your newer cards? Is it *****-212 ?

I got a few in Sept/Oct and they were the 210 revision and had them running all at 2000Mhz memclock.

Later bought some more with 212 revision and these also run at 2000Mhz memclock but the ASIC quality isn't as good (65%) and they need more voltage.

Now however almost half of these cards need to run at 1950mhz or they get crazy amount of incorrect shares. Both revisions. I think its because as the DAG gets larger the VRAM chips get more unstable.

What is your memory VDDCI for all of them? 1V?

As for quality it seems all these RX 470/480 are badly built and cheap. Nothing like how the older 7970 were build.

Woah really ? i heard nothing but good stuff about the sapphire RX, care to elaborate ?

I was going to get a few 470 so your saying the reference cards are best

I agree with you the MSI cards are junk same with the powercolor 8GB cards and most of the nitros, in general the RX series that are not
480 ref cards are pure junk.. Out of the 100 i have 20 are being RMAed this week.  Not one of my 30 480 REF cards has a problem.

My 380 Armor 2X are very good. 24Mh/s on eth and 650h/s on CryptoNote, have other 380 - no one of them can't beat this msi.

Not sure about your personal case, but I've never liked MSI's GPUs. My MSI 390 overheats easily compared to almost any other model.

I have 14 MSI RX 470's from Nov/Dec 2016 which are running 27-28Mhs ethereum.

I bought 4 more cards from newegg last week, and I had to reduce mem clocks on all to get them stable around 25.8-26.2Mhs ethereum.

On my older cards I'm running undervolted memclocks anywhere from 1920 to 1980, along with underclocked and undervolted cores.

New cards are stable around memclock 1850 to 1880.  No correlations between ASIC qualities (as reported by GPU-z).  Some of these new cards report 79.9 ASIC, but they are shit.   Could I be that unlucky to get 4 for 4 crappy cards?

Not sure whats changed @ MSI, but I'll be returning all 4 of them....