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Quote from: OgNasty on January 12, 2024, 03:09:20 PM

...Obviously it's the most incredible vehicle ever produced for civilian use....

That title still goes to the Toyota HiLUX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPnIpjodA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnVZXQD5_k

But there were a few CT around Vegas for CES. There were a couple you could drive and there were not a lot of takers from what I could see.

Not my thing, shrug, I have been driving and Ioniq5 for 6 months and think it's too big. More of a midsize sedan guy for a daily driver so I can't comment on the CT (and other large vehicle) appeal to others.

HOWEVER.....
There were a lot of EV charger manufacturers that had booths setup showing off their stuff. Some cool things coming on that horizon if it's not vaporware.
Once place had a hydrogen powered DCFC doing 350KW / 800V so you could have 100% off grid charging. Lets see if they get it into production.
The other interesting thing was micro DCFC stations. Low power put still more efficient then doing AC -> DC with the car. 3% loss vs 10%. The math was wonky on them however, would have to get the cost down to make it worth it.

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Quote from: ObscurePen on January 12, 2024, 01:07:16 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 10, 2024, 03:36:51 PM

The irony is thick here... accusing someone of being "a liberal" and then being concerned about nanny state not watching out for your fingers. Most people figure out how doors and various other openings work around the age of 2.

How about the cybertruck not being able to do simple truck things like driving in the amount of snow that my 2008 rear wheel drive shitbox with all-season junkyard tires does twice a day with no issues, not concerning at all?

https://jalopnik.com/cybertrucks-keep-getting-stuck-in-snow-1851148697

The issue with driving is not due to the truck. The tyre tread is the biggest factor in its off-roading capabilities. The article you posted says it itself. The stock tyres that the truck is delivered is garbage for offroading. If they put offroading tyres as stock the range and speed of the truck would be a lot less in everyday situations. Its common sense really, you don't offroad with highways tyres and you don't drive on highways with offroad tyres. People who want to take the truck off-roading or who live in snowy/iced areas need to buy the appropriate tyres.
You will always have these videos every now and then of people who don't know how to use what they have bought properly and posting their failure on social media to giving Tesla a bad rep. And always goes viral because its a new product and its electric. But if you look past these short nonsensical clips at the design, manufacture and capabilities of the truck, it really is an incredible vehicle.

Obviously it's the most incredible vehicle ever produced for civilian use. Anyone who has driven one will tell you that. Don't listen to someone driving a 2008 shitbox for information about what a next generation vehicle is like. Even the images of them getting stuck in the snow is obvious it's user error due to the all-season tires not being produced yet. All of the stuck vehicles I saw were also the "release candidate" models that didn't have things like traction control enabled yet. None of the Cybertrucks on the road have all the built in features yet, like full self-driving for example. Even things like the rear wheels turning has been capped at 3 degrees currently when it can do 11 degrees. As they work the bugs out of the software and get things like the all-season tires in production, you'll see less and less stuck videos and more and more videos of it doing amazing things that no other vehicle can. The denial is strong with some people. However, they've gone from it will never be built to it can't drive in snow. Soon it will be some other nonsense. Can't wait to own one.

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Quote from: ObscurePen on January 12, 2024, 01:07:16 AM

I'm not talking about off-roading nor does the article I linked to. The truck seems to be struggling on a driveway that other cars got through, including what appears to be a Model X in the background.

So either Tesla is putting utterly useless (for road driving) tires on it, or the idiots driving it have believed Musk's BS about the truck being a rugged go-anywhere bulletproof self-driving boat and are not actually driving it. Both kinda bad things.

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Quote from: suchmoon on January 10, 2024, 03:36:51 PM

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The first customer (non-employee) Cybertruck has been delivered. It is rumored that 50 per day are currently being produced with a fast ramp up planned as battery production picks up.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/heres-the-first-cybertruck-delivered-to-a-non-employee-congrats-to-susu2142-%f0%9f%99%8c/

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Check out this video showing someone off-roading their Cybertruck. When someone that knows what they’re doing gets behind the wheel of one of these bad boys it is pretty amazing what they can do. There’s going to be some awesome videos as more of these get into the hands of off-road adventurers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l9yvPQTGQxQ

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the first thing I’ve seen that is actually concerning regarding the Cybertruck. Gonna have to be careful with those fingers.

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In an actual case of legitimate criticism, this is the first thing I’ve seen that is actually concerning regarding the Cybertruck. Gonna have to be careful with those fingers.

https://x.com/garageklub/status/1745107402033443015

Although people do show that other trucks like the Ford Lightning and even trunks of other Teslas perform the same way so it shouldn’t be a problem. Good to be aware of though with how people crowd around this thing.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 09, 2024, 01:09:38 PM

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 05, 2024, 01:58:36 PM

Why did you pay more than 6 BTC?

Because Tesla (and all electric vehicles) is one big ponzi scheme and clown Elon tricked many people by adding, then removing Bitcoin support from tesla website, and dumping bitcoin.
Everything about Elon is fake, but if some people like to waste money aka bitcoin on steel junk that will become useless soon, go for it.

It’s funny to me that you can become the richest person on earth, jumpstart the electric car revolution, give the world a platform of free speech, and help man become a multi-planetary species, yet people will still say bad things about you. I’ll never understand the motivation for people to be so jealous and bitter. It makes me feel better about being harassed though. Envy is real.

Admittedly he's done some good.
But I can't help but think about some of his antics,
Helping society seems to be a byproduct of his actual intents.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 09, 2024, 12:01:24 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 05, 2024, 01:58:36 PM

Why did you pay more than 6 BTC?

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 05, 2024, 01:58:36 PM

Why did you pay more than 6 BTC?

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Quote from: Volgastallion on January 05, 2024, 11:11:35 AM

The women on the side seems also impresed. Grin

How about the thicknes of the metal?

I tried to get pictures without anyone else in them, but it was difficult. After about 10 minutes there were probably 30 people walking around touching it and taking pictures. Surprisingly, most people didn't even know what it was or that Tesla was building a truck. They just saw something awesome driving by and stopped to check it out.

I was honestly surprised by how thin the metal is. I get that they have done a lot of work to make it extremely strong, but I expected it to be probably 3x as thick. They must be working some serious magic for those panels to take the place of a frame.

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 05, 2024, 01:58:36 PM

Would you say it was the first cybertruck bought with Bitcoin?

I have been watching a lot of videos and all the reviews about that truck, and it's amazing how fast, strong and powerful it is, so, enjoy it. But what i don't understand at all is the price gap that you paid. Why did you pay more than 6 BTC?, i know the Bitcoin prize has been on a roller coaster, but 6.5btc is a crazy amount compared to the current prize order.

Quote from: OgNasty on March 26, 2021, 03:53:42 PM

Price of my Cybertruck when ordered: 6.59229 BTC
Current price of my ordered Cybertruck:

It wasn't mine (I tweeted at the owner on Twitter using my @NastyMining account) and I haven't actually purchased one yet, nor do they accept Bitcoin yet so we'll see how it all goes. I am still on the preorder list. I would place the odds at about 60/40 of me obtaining a Cybertruck this year. The deciding factor being whether or not I want to pay $20,000 for a Foundation Series truck to get it sooner or not. While I do want it today, I also want the best product available, and given the advances in their 4680 batteries planned for the near future, it could add 10% to the range of the vehicle to just wait and get their latest 4680 revision batteries. So a decision I'll have to make is whether to wait for a better product, or pay more to have a worse product immediately. I'm still not decided, but Bitcoin's price the day I get the email will also be a factor.

Let me explain the pricing I have listed. The day I ordered a Cybertruck I looked at the price and exchange rate and came up with a price. Since that time both Bitcoin and the cost of the Cybertruck have risen, but Bitcoin has risen more, hence the price being cheaper today in Bitcoin. I included this because 1) this topic would be moved if it weren't about Bitcoin and your boy gots to get his $, & 2) it shows that a rising Bitcoin price over time incentivizes Bitcoiners to hold out for favorable exchange rates. Had I converted the funds to USD immediately instead of holding BTC I would not only not have enough USD for the purchase of the truck at the new pricing, but I also would have less BTC. It was definitely a smart move (to the tune of $200,000 so far) to choose to hold BTC instead of USD for this purchase.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 29, 2023, 09:29:55 PM

Guess who got a hands on with the Cybertruck today!

I can say that it does look even more awesome in person. The biggest shock for me was how big the wheels are. They are MASSIVE in person. I was also surprised that all the buttons are real buttons that click in. I thought the doors and frunk would be awkward to open but they weren’t at all. The owner said range is a bit lower than expected but visibility and comfortability is amazing. It was the 2 motor version but he said it’s still extremely quick. I learned a lot and there were so many smart things that aren’t advertised with this vehicle. I’m even more excited now.

Ho boy! Congrats on the new toy!

Would you say it was the first cybertruck bought with Bitcoin?

I have been watching a lot of videos and all the reviews about that truck, and it's amazing how fast, strong and powerful it is, so, enjoy it. But what i don't understand at all is the price gap that you paid. Why did you pay more than 6 BTC?, i know the Bitcoin prize has been on a roller coaster, but 6.5btc is a crazy amount compared to the current prize order.

Quote from: OgNasty on March 26, 2021, 03:53:42 PM

Price of my Cybertruck when ordered: 6.59229 BTC
Current price of my ordered Cybertruck:

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 29, 2023, 09:29:55 PM

Guess who got a hands on with the Cybertruck today!

The women on the side seems also impresed. Grin

~~Well congratulations for you man, you were one of the early defenders and owners of the Tesla Cybertruck you make all the way since the begining like with BTC.~~

EDIT: i read agian and it was not your Tesla Cybertruck.

Very nice eagster egg you found. One thing i want to see is the change who are gonna do the owners, like changing or painting some parts. In the angle you took the photo seems better than others.

How about the thicknes of the metal?

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With the latest Easter egg going around showing you can break the windows on the Cybertruck displayed on the touchscreen by repeatedly tapping it, I thought I’d show an Easter egg I saw when checking out the Cybertruck. I took this picture showing that when you open the door and roll down the window, it stops at a point where the remaining exposed window looks like a Cybertruck.

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Guess who got a hands on with the Cybertruck today!

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 29, 2023, 08:56:00 AM

I guess bankruptcy never happened in US based car manufacturers, and it will ''never'' happen to tesla and clown Elon. Cheesy

Companies like tesla would NEVER work without government aka tax extortion money, they work with big losses all the time, but I guess we already know that.
I know how ponzi scams are working and I am telling you that tesla (and similar) are one big ponzi scams ready to explode, but they need more people paying ''deposits'', same like in China.

You sound pretty ignorant about Tesla to be completely honest. They are extremely profitable, their cash position is growing insanely fast, and they’ve reduced their debt to the point where it will likely be completely gone in the next couple years. Your Ponzi talk is clearly complete nonsense, as is the idea that Tesla needs customer deposits for financial reasons.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 29, 2023, 08:38:01 AM

Well that would be an issue with China's policies and their own Chinese-made cars so not applicable to Tesla, but that's also assuming the claims in that video are true

Sure, it's not exactly situation like in China, BUT my point was that all this EV crap vehicles that are allegedly good for environment are generously supported by governments.
Guy that made the video you posted (probably living in China) is specialized for cars from China-only with his 1 year old channel Inside China Auto,
so I am sure he is (not) paid by their government/companies to tell the truth...

Quote from: hilariousetc on December 29, 2023, 08:38:01 AM

Most of the claims are untrue and the vehicles are from bankrupt rideshare companies. He does a walkaround and you can see a lot of the cars are actually used and many with road damage etc.

I guess bankruptcy never happened in US based car manufacturers, and it will ''never'' happen to tesla and clown Elon. Cheesy

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 29, 2023, 08:14:11 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on December 29, 2023, 07:24:17 AM

Looks like there's been the first recorded incident involving a cybertruck https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/28/24018383/tesla-cybertruck-crash-corolla-palo-alto

First of many to come Tongue

Did you guys see the Video how China is making a bunch of electric cars and not using them at all, there are literally thousands of brand new cars rotting outside.
All that is done because of government paid for this to be made, and nobody cares if they are ''green'', or if they actually sold or not...
Now that can't possibly happen to tesla right? Right?? Roll Eyes

EVs = ponzi scam

Well that would be an issue with China's policies and their own Chinese-made cars so not applicable to Tesla, but that's also assuming the claims in that video are true, which according to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD8qqEx4G18

Most of the claims are untrue and the vehicles are from bankrupt rideshare companies. He does a walkaround and you can see a lot of the cars are actually used and many with road damage etc.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 29, 2023, 07:24:17 AM

Looks like there's been the first recorded incident involving a cybertruck https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/28/24018383/tesla-cybertruck-crash-corolla-palo-alto

First of many to come Tongue

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