Topic: ~ Buying a TESLA CYBERTRUCK with BITCOIN ~ - page 3. (Read 7676 times)

The dry process for cathode and anode is mostly for cost savings and then a bit for faster production times.
The batteries should perform a bit better when charging at lower temps and have a few more cycles before losing capacity.

Largest issue IMO is the fact that there are a couple of other processes that are ramping up a lot more quickly then anticipated.
Samsung delivered sold state batteries to EV manufactures for testing early this year and should have production up and running by the end of this year.
Going to be for more expensive higher end vehicles to start but as always that should drop quickly.

Probably does not matter much in the long run, battery tech is moving so fast that you will never be 1st for long.

Late 2024 Tesla is ahead with it's dry 4680, mid 2025 Samsung and others are ahead with sold state, early 2026 Dave & OgNasty are ahead with their sodium batteries after that someone will come up with a revolutionary ground coffee battery or something else. It's just what it is.

Saw a CT up close the other day at a charger, it's a fingerprint magnet and if you lean up against it in shorts it's shows where your legs touched it.

Anyway, neat but with 1 big flaw IMO, it is designed for the Tesla / NACS plug. Going from the J1772 AC to a NACS is fine. BUT going from a CCS (DC Fast) charger to NACS the charging port cover does not open enough to let you plug in an adapter.

https://www.amazon.com/EVCONN-CCS-Tesla-Adapter-Compatible/dp/B0C281YM22/

Had to let the guy charge up off of my car using AC so he could make it to the next supercharger. It's kind of funny, this was his 3rd Tesla so he just took the adapter out of one car and threw it in back of the CT so he could charge anywhere and didn't think about it. Oops.

Seriously, until more places start installing NACS I see this as an issue.

There are FAR FAR FAR more NACS supercharges out there then CCS ones. BUT they are in larger groups. Using where I live as example there are 3 super charger stations (4 if you go a bit over 5 miles)  that have a total of 24 or 30 stalls. After that nothing till the 10+ miles point. There are 7 or 8 CCS fast chargers BUT they only have a total of about a dozen plugs. HOWEVER, and this is the big HOWEVER, they are spread out all over the place so when you do an oops and don't have enough range it's not a big deal to make it to one. Going to the 10 mile point where you get more NACS I can't count the number of CCS DCFC stations since there are so many but they are still all just 1 or 2 per location but there are a lot of them. I don't and most other EV drivers don't (including Tesla) think about it since there is always a DCFC somewhere. Might be expensive, might be slow, but it's there. Not being able to do that in a CT I see messing up people who are used to it.

1st time EV owners will not think about it, but to someone who is used to just stopping off for a quick dozen KWh of power and find their adapter does not fit in their car are in for a wait.

Oh and OG if it does not come with one get a portable AC charger and ALWAYS carry it with you. The shoe leather you save may be your own. Does not matter the brand or the make or the model. Shit happens and you can always find a 110V outlet to get you the 3 miles per hour of range.

-Dave

EDIT: This was not a random encounter with a CT owner, was a friend of a friend of a friend kind of thing who after calling a bunch of people for help wound up getting in touch with me since someone knew my car has 20A 110V output.

Looks like the first dry cathode 4680 Cybertruck has been produced. I’m interested to see how these things test in the real world with the new engines and batteries. Will we see increased performance or will this just be for cost savings? Hopefully I get one with all the new goodies to see for myself.

https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1816903964022980842

Tesla sent out an email a couple minutes ago stating that their reward to accelerate the Cybertruck delivery was once again available in the rewards shop. I got the email and clicked the link within 2 minutes of it being sent to discover the reward is already sold out. I guess it is safe to say there are still folks in a hurry to get their trucks.

As a side note, I’m being told that newly produced Cybertrucks are using new engines that reduce vibration, noise, and are more efficient. It is also rumored that a new dry cathode battery manufacturing process will be used for Cybertruck batteries by the end of the year. This will enable lower prices and faster manufacturing.

I know I posted this news nearly 2 months ago, but today it’s making a splash that the newly designed hubcaps are being included with new Cybertruck shipments.  Here’s a better image showing the comparison between the old and newly redesigned models. This was one of the recalls mainstream news was ranting about.

There’s a company out there selling cut out black ppf shaped to look like a back window for the Cybertruck to try and make the overall appearance more streamlined. Personally I would never put a sticker of a fake window on my car, but I can see why some people might think this is cool. For me though, hard pass. Still, I thought it was interesting. The aftermarket for these trucks is going to get wild.

Someone on the Cybertruck forums with a later reservation number who configured their truck 10 days after mine and with the same configuration has received their VIN number. I think that means it is just location holding me back at this point. With any luck I’ll have a VIN email waiting for me in the next couple weeks. 

My Tesla app has been updated with different “Learn” videos about the Cybertruck. Hopefully this is a step towards that VIN email. The videos are titled: Access, Driver Controls, Driver Profiles, Cargo Bed, Regenerative Braking

Battery Tech is moving quickly and in a bunch of different ways to see which one really wins.

There are EVs out there now that get over 400 miles of range. But they are bouncing over the $70000 price.
BUT, to a large extent it's *not* because of the battery tech, but all the other crap in the car.
Do you really need the cup holders in the back seat to have heating & cooling. Yeah it's neat, but there is a cost. Both $ cost and added weight which reduces range.

Even my car, there is so much 'tech for the sake of tech' in it that they really could have made a much cheaper car with the same 300 mile range. Probably more range after you take out the extra few hundred lbs (100+kg for you metric people) of crap.

-Dave

My English has better days and not so-great days. I guess that today is not a great one, but since you've got my point, let's get over the language details


As long as you know what you're doing... (which, knowing how old bitcoiner you are, it's no surprise for me), I can't argue. And others also shouldn't.
And about the other good deeds... I'm impressed. (And while I do know that the value of those coins doesn't have to be calculated at today fiat price - by far -, it's still a big amount).

Maybe a loss of meaning in lingo there. I don’t feel like people hate me. Hating on someone is being critical of something that you probably shouldn’t be. I don’t think anyone should “hate” someone they don’t know and nobody on this forum knows me. 

I get your point though and I’m not denying it (see my last post on the previous page of this thread). Buying a Foundation Series Cybertruck is a terrible financial move and this will likely be the worst purchase of my life from a financial perspective. I’ve also spent nearly 100 BTC on honey roasted almonds (& distributed several hundreds of BTC through my Nasty project, donated BTC to FreeRoss, etc), so spending BTC to help support things I think deserve it is nothing new to me.

People don't hate you. Plus, it's pretty obvious that this is the path to the future. But...

(yes, there's always a "but")

Purchases like yours make the "future proof" businesses get fueled with money which can help them pursue their goal.
Purchases like yours tend to be overly expensive for what they offer. Yes, you may have a piece of history, but those only wanting a car may want to wait a few more years until the technology matures, becoming less expensive and also more powerful (imho electric cars desperately need a better technology for their batteries).

So, people don't hate you. They just don't understand why are you willing to do such a purchase which (if you ignore the history / "be the first" part) can be seen by many as a bad deal for you (especially as even 2.25 BTC is .. an impressive amount of money, which is expected to be even more impressive in less than a decade)

Story time. In the late 90s I had an Apple computer. My friends had the usual Dell or whatever. I would tell them how Apple had advantages controlling both hardware and software that would pay dividends down the line and suggested we took our profits from building PCs and selling them in the paper to invest in Apple. They didn’t like that idea and we went our separate ways. A few years later Apple was the most valuable company in the world. Then they released the iPhone. I bought it day 1 and told people it would revolutionize cell phones. I was told they were dumb, had bad battery life, the screen would crack, the phone was too thin and would bend, I would hate not having real buttons, etc. Now everyone has an iPhone…

I got into real estate and tried to get my friends to buy homes because it was a far better deal than renting at the time (2003). A couple years later, housing boom…

Fast forward a couple more years and I discovered Bitcoin. I told my friends and family they should be mining it, accepting it, stacking it… It was too new at the time and had issues no doubt. 10 years later it was the most successful investment in human history.

More recently I’ve gotten into being self sufficient and having a home that can power itself with alternative energy. This has ultimately led me to Tesla to completely remove myself from needing oil. I’ll let you guess what will happen over the next 10 years with energy…

So when people hate on me for jumping into electric vehicles with the manufacturing revolution that is the Cybertruck, I feel like that Simpsons episode where the character says, “don’t make me tap the sign.” I’ve been here before at the cutting edge of something that will change everything many times. I suspect this is just another iPhone. Tell me how much I’ll miss those physical buttons if you want or that a better phone is coming, but I don’t regret buying the first one.

I don't know, but all I can see about this truck is the fact that it is overrated and over-hyped. Very soon and in the future a better vehicle will be made that will do better, for now, enjoy the new thing that will still become an old fashion and model. we don't stop developing, so whoever buys the first version bus the old version of whatever it may be.

OK, so not CT related at all (Sorry OG) but since I am pure EV at this point it's nice to know that in 2024 you can still siphon gas from your car to fill your bike if needed:



Side note, whoever at Harley-Davidson designed that bike is insane (LiveWire S2 DelMar) in sport mode at 45 MPH to 50 MPH I cracked the throttle open to test passing ability and instead of just going faster it pulled the front wheel straight off the ground.

-Dave

Probably a good call at this point, financially speaking.  I can't imagine they'll be able to keep the price this high for much longer.  Pretty much everyone who reserved an order has been given the opportunity to get a Foundation Series model now and they seem to only have about a 2% order rate.  I think high financing rates and an economy decimated by inflation have taken their toll on buyers.  I've even seen some social media influencers cancel their orders they had already put a $1,000 deposit down on.  You'll still have the opportunity to keep your place in line for the regular series of trucks when they're released around the end of the year, but I imagine the 98% of reservations like yours will likely lead to some orders of the regular model, so not getting the Foundation Series likely means waiting another year or two to get your hands on one.

Still, if you don't care about doing 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and you don't mind waiting, I think it will be possible to get a single motor Cybertruck in 2026 for around $60K and also get some tax incentives.

Me: I'm in it for the ride.  However much BTC it costs when I get the bill is what I'm committed to paying.  Right now I think that would be around 2.25 BTC (after sales tax and other fees).  A welcome improvement from the 6.59229 BTC I had expected it to cost when I placed the reservation, but probably not as good as the 0.5 BTC it would likely cost if I was paying for it a year from now.

I decided to pass on my email.

OMG, LMAO, I didn't look into their severity, I didn't know it's like this 
I guess that you're safe then I wish you receive your car fast enough and enjoy it!

Ya, they drilled a screw into the accelerator pedal, redesigned the hubcaps, changed a part in the wiper motor, and changed an adhesive. I’m surprised Tesla didn’t go bankrupt… It would’ve taken traditional automakers years and thousands of accidents before they even looked into addressing these types of issues. I’m still getting recall notices for my 2009 Dodge…

You have to remember that media outlets call software updates recalls when it comes to Tesla. I doubt anyone is seriously concerned about any of these issues outside of people who will never own a Cybertruck but like to hate on things. Still, I’m glad Tesla is improving my truck before I even get it.

Congrats! I also hope they fix their shit before you receive yours.
I've just read the other day it's already the...4th recalling of Cybertruck by Tesla. A bit much.

It really isn’t that much different than the appeal of Bitcoin for me. I can’t make my own gasoline, but I can make my own electricity. Like we don’t want to rely on banks to store our money for us and have control over it, I don’t want to rely on oil companies, refineries, shipping companies, and gas stations when I want to commute somewhere. The idea I can take sunlight and use it to power my entire life is cool to me. My home doesn’t even have a gas line… As soon as I get a machine that draws water out of the air and find a way to scale my farming efforts, I’ll be completely self sufficient. That’s always been the goal. If looking cool was the goal I’d be driving a 1964 impala.