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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 02, 2016, 02:39:51 AM

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Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 10:41:04 PM

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

Sure, it would break the chain.
The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes.

Apart from this, it has been proven that legalization and regulation lowers the level of drug addiction. For example, in Portugal, the number of drug users declined after the government legalized all sort of drugs in 2001.

I do believe if all countries does follow Portugal, legalizing drugs, will have the same result, and maybe can prevent the abuse of those. I dont believe people will use bitcoin just for the purpose to buy drugs, in the general even with all the beneficts around bitcoin, i would say its a waste of money using for those purpose. Its only advantage to those which does sell the drugs and people addicted to them.

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For me this is impossible to used by buying bitcoin because most of the addict in drugs or users are wanting to buy drugs personally they do not want to send their money first to the people did not know to buy drugs.

Hm it seems like you do not know anything about illegal activities which relate to Bitcoin. There are many drug sellers use bitcoin in order to hide their identity. On deepweb and darknet, you can easily find a site which sell drug and they only choose Bitcoin for payment method.

Yes, it is the fact that some users from darknet are using bitcoin for their illegal activities and that’s the matter of worry for us. We should find some solution for this issue because ultimately it is damaging the image and goodwill of bitcoin. Governments will have concrete reason to impose ban of the whole bitcoin in their territories so we shouldn’t stay refrain from such activities and must find some practical solution for such issues.

They are doing it because they can and bitcoin is a great currency for that as it's anonymous, we can't control them but they help us anyway.

and if this happen for over and over a time, then i think the government will not give their permission to allowing people to use bitcoin because the government will be thinking that if they give their permission to approving for using bitcoin then it means they give legality for buying and selling drugs in deepweb and darknet and it is really important to us to think this and solve this because it is related with bitcoin itself in the future.

Governments always seek for control and be supreme authority so as far as the things are in their control, they will stay standby but once they find that bitcoin or alternate crypto currencies are being used for illegal purpose then they will have a strong reason to support their decision to ban bitcoin (and altcoins) so I think we should not let governments to take any action against us.

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Quote from: kratarzu on December 02, 2016, 03:14:19 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 02, 2016, 02:39:51 AM

Quote from: coolcoinz on December 01, 2016, 10:59:28 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 10:41:04 PM

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

Sure, it would break the chain.
The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes.

Apart from this, it has been proven that legalization and regulation lowers the level of drug addiction. For example, in Portugal, the number of drug users declined after the government legalized all sort of drugs in 2001.

You can also have the dutch system, making it legal to sell drugs but illegal to produce. Fantastic system, every country should try....

But here in my country the new government fight to kill drugs in our country because he do not like drugs, and i think that is not good to make drugs legal in one place because drugs can not bring us good if we used it our life will wreck because it is addictive thing.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 02, 2016, 02:39:51 AM

Quote from: coolcoinz on December 01, 2016, 10:59:28 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 10:41:04 PM

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

Sure, it would break the chain.
The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes.

Apart from this, it has been proven that legalization and regulation lowers the level of drug addiction. For example, in Portugal, the number of drug users declined after the government legalized all sort of drugs in 2001.

You can also have the dutch system, making it legal to sell drugs but illegal to produce. Fantastic system, every country should try....

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Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 11:18:58 PM

Quote from: coolcoinz on December 01, 2016, 10:59:28 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 10:41:04 PM

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

Sure, it would break the chain.
The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes.

It's good that someone else here can see the bigger picture, great post!

That is still not what I meant, drugs is less harmfull for non users, alcohol makes people violent and not aware of their actions. Thats why Alcohol is more dangerous. I wouldnt care a shit if someone would die of drug abuse or by putting wrong chemicals in their system. Not my problem.

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Quote from: xIIImaL on December 02, 2016, 02:46:22 AM

Who said anonymousity is not there in the bitcoin medium, IF you buy or sell also no one can identify the person. They can find server ip but not the person's one. But even I do not think people are selling and buying drugs with bitcoins

Don't be so sure about it. The TOR browser works by relaying the transmission from one node to another. If the starting node is compromised, then the law enforcement agencies will be able to obtain your real IP. Some say that this is how Ross Ulbricht was caught.

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Quote from: Liad.Services on December 02, 2016, 02:42:17 AM

I do not think that anyonr who bought drugs with bitcoin is going to reveal his idenity here, as buying drugs is illegal no matter what is your payment method, and this forum is not so anonymous.

If someone claims here that he bought drugs with bitcoin he is risking himself.

Who said anonymousity is not there in the bitcoin medium, IF you buy or sell also no one can identify the person. They can find server ip but not the person's one. But even I do not think people are selling and buying drugs with bitcoins

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I do not think that anyonr who bought drugs with bitcoin is going to reveal his idenity here, as buying drugs is illegal no matter what is your payment method, and this forum is not so anonymous.

If someone claims here that he bought drugs with bitcoin he is risking himself.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on December 01, 2016, 10:59:28 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 10:41:04 PM

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

Sure, it would break the chain.
The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes.

Apart from this, it has been proven that legalization and regulation lowers the level of drug addiction. For example, in Portugal, the number of drug users declined after the government legalized all sort of drugs in 2001.

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Quote from: canah17 on November 29, 2016, 03:04:06 AM

Quote from: druggy01 on September 19, 2015, 02:05:42 PM

Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?

i know i have used bitcoin to buy psilocybe cubensis thank you bitcoin i cold have not done this without you now i can trip watching corry & eastenders in the evening its such a sight.

Well thats very hard if you buy drugs with bitcoin you can easily be traced by the government dude >.< but still if you're in a private place bang! you will have drugs but dont buy drugs please! think about the little children who wants to grow up to be like you Cheesy

so don;t do drus Cheesy

basically it is a prohibition. I think we do not have to buy illegal goods with bitcoin. it violates the rules because it can hurt many people. the impact will be huge.

What rules are you even talking about, it is a prohibition, what's that about?

Some of us who have adopted bitcoin for something other than to signature spam have done so to get away from some of the rules that oppressive governments put on us.
Why should some drug be legal and some illegal, why should a government have the right to tell you what you put into your own body?

Take alcohol for example was illegal now legal, marijuana will probably be legal in most countries within 10 years and already is legal in a lot. Tobacco probably really should be illegal but why if someone wants to smoke let them and the same goes with drugs, if someone wants to chose to put something into their own body then let them, it is a harmless crime and therefor should not even be a crime.

Its harmless unless you get others people involved in your actions. Thats why alcohol is more dangerous then drugs.

But they are both harmful. Me, I do drink alcohol almost everyday but I dot use drugs as according to them it will make you crazy and it's illegal. You don't know how strict our law when it comes to combating illegal drugs in our country, I will not engaged myself either.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on December 01, 2016, 10:59:28 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 10:41:04 PM

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

Sure, it would break the chain.
The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes.

It's good that someone else here can see the bigger picture, great post!

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Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 10:41:04 PM

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

Sure, it would break the chain.
The drugs would be more affordable and easy to get in any pharmacy, less people would resort to theft and borrowing from gangsters to fuel their addiction. They'd be getting pure product instead of some unknown and sometimes deadly chemicals. Gangsters would lose their main income and governments would get more money from taxes.

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Quote from: kratarzu on December 01, 2016, 10:35:20 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 07:44:08 PM

Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 01, 2016, 05:31:57 PM

Quote from: canah17 on November 29, 2016, 03:04:06 AM

Quote from: druggy01 on September 19, 2015, 02:05:42 PM

Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?

i know i have used bitcoin to buy psilocybe cubensis thank you bitcoin i cold have not done this without you now i can trip watching corry & eastenders in the evening its such a sight.

Well thats very hard if you buy drugs with bitcoin you can easily be traced by the government dude >.< but still if you're in a private place bang! you will have drugs but dont buy drugs please! think about the little children who wants to grow up to be like you Cheesy

so don;t do drus Cheesy

basically it is a prohibition. I think we do not have to buy illegal goods with bitcoin. it violates the rules because it can hurt many people. the impact will be huge.

What rules are you even talking about, it is a prohibition, what's that about?

Some of us who have adopted bitcoin for something other than to signature spam have done so to get away from some of the rules that oppressive governments put on us.
Why should some drug be legal and some illegal, why should a government have the right to tell you what you put into your own body?

Take alcohol for example was illegal now legal, marijuana will probably be legal in most countries within 10 years and already is legal in a lot. Tobacco probably really should be illegal but why if someone wants to smoke let them and the same goes with drugs, if someone wants to chose to put something into their own body then let them, it is a harmless crime and therefor should not even be a crime.

Its harmless unless you get others people involved in your actions. Thats why alcohol is more dangerous then drugs.

Yes that is a good point but we are all responsible for our own actions at the end of the day.

The harm effect on other people from ones drug use are normally associated with the drug user having to find the money to purchase illegal drugs, if the addict could just go to the local chemist and pick up what he needs then he would not be harming anyone but himself and even that is debatable .

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Quote from: bitkilo on December 01, 2016, 07:44:08 PM

Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 01, 2016, 05:31:57 PM

Quote from: canah17 on November 29, 2016, 03:04:06 AM

Quote from: druggy01 on September 19, 2015, 02:05:42 PM

Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?

i know i have used bitcoin to buy psilocybe cubensis thank you bitcoin i cold have not done this without you now i can trip watching corry & eastenders in the evening its such a sight.

Well thats very hard if you buy drugs with bitcoin you can easily be traced by the government dude >.< but still if you're in a private place bang! you will have drugs but dont buy drugs please! think about the little children who wants to grow up to be like you Cheesy

so don;t do drus Cheesy

basically it is a prohibition. I think we do not have to buy illegal goods with bitcoin. it violates the rules because it can hurt many people. the impact will be huge.

What rules are you even talking about, it is a prohibition, what's that about?

Some of us who have adopted bitcoin for something other than to signature spam have done so to get away from some of the rules that oppressive governments put on us.
Why should some drug be legal and some illegal, why should a government have the right to tell you what you put into your own body?

Take alcohol for example was illegal now legal, marijuana will probably be legal in most countries within 10 years and already is legal in a lot. Tobacco probably really should be illegal but why if someone wants to smoke let them and the same goes with drugs, if someone wants to chose to put something into their own body then let them, it is a harmless crime and therefor should not even be a crime.

Its harmless unless you get others people involved in your actions. Thats why alcohol is more dangerous then drugs.

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For me this is impossible to used by buying bitcoin because most of the addict in drugs or users are wanting to buy drugs personally they do not want to send their money first to the people did not know to buy drugs.

Hm it seems like you do not know anything about illegal activities which relate to Bitcoin. There are many drug sellers use bitcoin in order to hide their identity. On deepweb and darknet, you can easily find a site which sell drug and they only choose Bitcoin for payment method.

Yes, it is the fact that some users from darknet are using bitcoin for their illegal activities and that’s the matter of worry for us. We should find some solution for this issue because ultimately it is damaging the image and goodwill of bitcoin. Governments will have concrete reason to impose ban of the whole bitcoin in their territories so we shouldn’t stay refrain from such activities and must find some practical solution for such issues.

They are doing it because they can and bitcoin is a great currency for that as it's anonymous, we can't control them but they help us anyway.

and if this happen for over and over a time, then i think the government will not give their permission to allowing people to use bitcoin because the government will be thinking that if they give their permission to approving for using bitcoin then it means they give legality for buying and selling drugs in deepweb and darknet and it is really important to us to think this and solve this because it is related with bitcoin itself in the future.

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One of the concerns of many people is the misuse of the bitcoin is for illegal transactions. This will be hard to avoid, because in 15 minutes peoples can already make a wallet to be able to send and receive bitcoin.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 01, 2016, 05:31:57 PM

Quote from: canah17 on November 29, 2016, 03:04:06 AM

Quote from: druggy01 on September 19, 2015, 02:05:42 PM

Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?

i know i have used bitcoin to buy psilocybe cubensis thank you bitcoin i cold have not done this without you now i can trip watching corry & eastenders in the evening its such a sight.

Well thats very hard if you buy drugs with bitcoin you can easily be traced by the government dude >.< but still if you're in a private place bang! you will have drugs but dont buy drugs please! think about the little children who wants to grow up to be like you Cheesy

so don;t do drus Cheesy

basically it is a prohibition. I think we do not have to buy illegal goods with bitcoin. it violates the rules because it can hurt many people. the impact will be huge.

What rules are you even talking about, it is a prohibition, what's that about?

Some of us who have adopted bitcoin for something other than to signature spam have done so to get away from some of the rules that oppressive governments put on us.
Why should some drug be legal and some illegal, why should a government have the right to tell you what you put into your own body?

Take alcohol for example was illegal now legal, marijuana will probably be legal in most countries within 10 years and already is legal in a lot. Tobacco probably really should be illegal but why if someone wants to smoke let them and the same goes with drugs, if someone wants to chose to put something into their own body then let them, it is a harmless crime and therefor should not even be a crime.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 01, 2016, 05:31:57 PM

Quote from: canah17 on November 29, 2016, 03:04:06 AM

Quote from: druggy01 on September 19, 2015, 02:05:42 PM

Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?

i know i have used bitcoin to buy psilocybe cubensis thank you bitcoin i cold have not done this without you now i can trip watching corry & eastenders in the evening its such a sight.

Well thats very hard if you buy drugs with bitcoin you can easily be traced by the government dude >.< but still if you're in a private place bang! you will have drugs but dont buy drugs please! think about the little children who wants to grow up to be like you Cheesy

so don;t do drus Cheesy

basically it is a prohibition. I think we do not have to buy illegal goods with bitcoin. it violates the rules because it can hurt many people. the impact will be huge.

I there is no rules about bitcoin.. we are using bitcoin because we have freedom no tax anonymous transaction that you can do what ever you want.. this is the problem of bitcoin and many abuser that use bitcoin in darkmarket places and use it in illegal activities.. they are violates the rules not in bitcoin but in many country that not prohibited to buy them..

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Quote from: canah17 on November 29, 2016, 03:04:06 AM

Quote from: druggy01 on September 19, 2015, 02:05:42 PM

Anyone bought drugs with bitcoin and what are you thought on the subject ?

i know i have used bitcoin to buy psilocybe cubensis thank you bitcoin i cold have not done this without you now i can trip watching corry & eastenders in the evening its such a sight.

Well thats very hard if you buy drugs with bitcoin you can easily be traced by the government dude >.< but still if you're in a private place bang! you will have drugs but dont buy drugs please! think about the little children who wants to grow up to be like you Cheesy

so don;t do drus Cheesy

basically it is a prohibition. I think we do not have to buy illegal goods with bitcoin. it violates the rules because it can hurt many people. the impact will be huge.

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Quote from: druggy01 on September 19, 2015, 02:31:07 PM

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