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in my opinion the fall of the stock market will not have much impact on the price of bitcoin. because when the stock market weakens, some stock market investors might choose to stay. or they will turn to gold investment. because in recent months gold investment has increased. maybe there is a small part that switch bitcoin investments. but I don't think that will have an impact on the price of bitcoin

Some big investors in stock market may not still consider bitcoin as their new way to do investing. It will depend on what type of investors they are but since they don't wait too long or stocks sometimes focus on companies updates that makes it less volatile. I don't think it will affect BTC in good or bad terms.

Its been a long time since bitcoin haa entered the market as well as the stock market. It never affects each other since every trader has their own way of trading, some of them wants bitcoin some of the still in the stock marker. There also have different features therefore I conclude that it doesnt affects each other.

Actually it has certain affect of the price since for sure people will pull out there fiat if there's a stock crash happens and just think of it since it's still binds since we are talking money and for sure many people will put there safety net before putting on another investments. but this will surely temporarily happens since for sure they will look on the bitcoins since it has a greater chance to pump up again just like what happen before.

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Quote from: barabarian1 on October 13, 2019, 08:26:30 AM

in my opinion the fall of the stock market will not have much impact on the price of bitcoin. because when the stock market weakens, some stock market investors might choose to stay. or they will turn to gold investment. because in recent months gold investment has increased. maybe there is a small part that switch bitcoin investments. but I don't think that will have an impact on the price of bitcoin

Some big investors in stock market may not still consider bitcoin as their new way to do investing. It will depend on what type of investors they are but since they don't wait too long or stocks sometimes focus on companies updates that makes it less volatile. I don't think it will affect BTC in good or bad terms.

Its been a long time since bitcoin haa entered the market as well as the stock market. It never affects each other since every trader has their own way of trading, some of them wants bitcoin some of the still in the stock marker. There also have different features therefore I conclude that it doesnt affects each other.

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Quote from: apoorvlathey on October 13, 2019, 03:49:32 AM

You are pretty much right. Few weeks back due to global economic slowdown, all the stocks were painted in red but there stood Bitcoin shining in green from the rest of the commodities. People are going to invest one way or the other, so they resort to cryptocurrencies when other sources become unprofitable.

If you think that the stock market went down last week due to global economic slowdown then the bitcoin market also went down during that period and it does have a relation, if there are more investors in the market than we see now and if there is a financial slow down then the entire financial sector will feel the slow down and resort to gold or other commodities, bitcoin can be used as a financial safe heaven during those period but the risk of high volatility will prevent users in trusting bitcoin too. In the future people will trust bitcoin and can boost the market when there is a global crises but not in the near future.

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If stock market investors invest instead in cryptocurrency market, then the mass adaptation of bitcoin will increase little by little, it might affect the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies but not totally to the point where it can manipulate the cryptocurrency market.

That could be the case but usually when stocks crash every other investment crashes as well and people escape to fiat money. There would have to be extraordinary circumstances for bitcoin to pump when stocks dump. One of such circumstances would be war. Fiat money and stocks would dump at the same time and safe independent investments like bitcoin would flourish.

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I don't think so, the Stock market is the largest platform in the current context as a capital market but Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency is totally different, In the stock market you can buy a share of a company, you may avail the profit, dividend and so many facilities within a regulation process, but in the Bitcoin system, Only you can get the higher price but you can't get any assurance of security so it's not an easy prediction that people will attach themselves in Bitcoin rather than the stock market, and there are no possibilities to crash a stock market for the reason of Bitcoin because people are still confused about the Bitcoin and blockchain system, only a proper set of regulation will eradicate this confusion and then people will start investing and trading rather than traditional stock market.

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Quote from: Brunus on October 13, 2019, 05:34:19 PM

Any economic movement will somehow affect bitcoins.
In the case of a major stock market crash, I tend to think that the impact would be positive, since bitcoins would represent a safe haven.

Pure rubbish!!!

According to you Bitcoin represent a safe haven when compared to the stocks? I would call it BS. Bitcoin is an asset which went down by 85% during 2018. You can't call such an asset as a safe haven. There are assets that can be considered as safe havens, and they include gold, real estate, treasury bonds.etc. But I would never consider Bitcoin as one of them.

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stock market may have an influence on the price movements of bitcoin, and the stock market can make prices rise and this is quite good news, meaning that when many traders from the stock market turn to bitcoin then it will make bitcoin prices rise and demand increase.

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Stocks can and will affect Bitcoin due to investors taking multiple positions in different asset classes. However Bitcoin is supposed to be only lightly correlated which apparently gives asset managers an appreciation for diversifying into Bitcoin. If the move is big enough in traditional markets and -20% is possible then the money from elsewhere will be required to pay leverage on positions taken for stocks. People often take gold or US treasury bonds for this reason but also Bitcoin will see some sell, certainly I dont expect BTC to appreciate without an expansion in monetary base ongoing and apparent.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 15, 2019, 03:12:38 AM

I was thinking that investors would think the cryptocurrency market as an alternative to traditional investment products.
Having said that, my point was that those two markets have a reverse impact.

If the stock market goes down, then investors would start searching for alternative (more profitable) investments and turn to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
The last days stock market crash seems that lead the market cap of the crypto market down.

Does the Stock Market has impact over the Bitcoin price?

I think there is no impact to the cryptocurrency market even though the stock market crashed down. Those market have different buyer and sellers, stock market and cryptocurrency market are not interconnected. So the stock market has no impact over the bitcoin price.

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Any economic movement will somehow affect bitcoins.
In the case of a major stock market crash, I tend to think that the impact would be positive, since bitcoins would represent a safe haven.

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Quote from: SummerBliss on October 13, 2019, 09:23:29 AM

Stock market and cryptocurrency market are independent of their own and works in different manner.Crash of one market does not have any significant effect on prices of other market.The stock market is comparitavely less risky compared to crrypto market as predictions can ne made beforehand of stock prices on growth basis.The shareholders might consider some less risky options like real estate or gold investment other than stocks.So they are not correlated.

Yes, they are different in most of aspects, and I can't find any reason how stock market crash affect Bitcoin, when in fact, it might happen that stock market traders will choose to trade in crypto rather, as they can find more opportunity in trading crypto as they have a lot of option and can start with small amount.

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Stock market and cryptocurrency market are independent of their own and works in different manner.Crash of one market does not have any significant effect on prices of other market.The stock market is comparitavely less risky compared to crrypto market as predictions can ne made beforehand of stock prices on growth basis.The shareholders might consider some less risky options like real estate or gold investment other than stocks.So they are not correlated.

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in my opinion the fall of the stock market will not have much impact on the price of bitcoin. because when the stock market weakens, some stock market investors might choose to stay. or they will turn to gold investment. because in recent months gold investment has increased. maybe there is a small part that switch bitcoin investments. but I don't think that will have an impact on the price of bitcoin

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Quote from: Naida_BR on August 15, 2019, 03:12:38 AM

I was thinking that investors would think the cryptocurrency market as an alternative to traditional investment products.
Having said that, my point was that those two markets have a reverse impact.

If the stock market goes down, then investors would start searching for alternative (more profitable) investments and turn to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
The last days stock market crash seems that lead the market cap of the crypto market down.

Does the Stock Market has impact over the Bitcoin price?

If the stock market falls they will certainly see other investments but not crypto, because based on differences in risk in traditional stocks and crypto. The characteristics of stock investors look more at risk than profit so it is most likely they do not choose cryptocurrency investments that have a high level of risk. But small chances can make impact on cryptocurrency, because holders and investors can come from anywhere.

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Quote from: meliodas on October 13, 2019, 05:07:08 AM

It can affect the bitcoin but in good terms. If the stock market crashes then the people who invested there especially the newbies will be in panic and they will withdraw their money from their stock investments and they will look for something better with a higher profit margin and that would be Bitcoin and if they will transfer from stock market into bitcoin then it will trigger a price pump for bitcoin.

There are two possible things to happen to bitcoin if stock market will crash.

First thing is, its possible for the price of bitcoin to rise since investors will transfer their investment to bitcoin which can increase the demand and that will result to pump.
Second thing is, it is also possible for bitcoin price to fall same as the stock market. Why? because investors will put their investment into safety where they avoid the market even in cryptocurrency, they will probably pull out their investment which will result for the fall of bitcoin price.

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It can affect the bitcoin but in good terms. If the stock market crashes then the people who invested there especially the newbies will be in panic and they will withdraw their money from their stock investments and they will look for something better with a higher profit margin and that would be Bitcoin and if they will transfer from stock market into bitcoin then it will trigger a price pump for bitcoin.

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I think stock market fund will moved to other financial marker.investors will not let their money stuck in only one place and didn't produce profits.i am sure will stock marker crash some money will moved to cryptocurrencies market .this is already be intermarket analisys law.and every profesional investor understand it.they will always find market that could give them profits.

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It could really go both the ways. Stock market crash can sometimes be so devastating that people decide to counter it by investing in some other modes altogether outside the Economy which include Bullion and certain precious commodities. However we have never had bitcoin in the past during a major crash therefore chances are that this time whenever a stock market crash takes place people could try to diversify their holdings into Bitcoin too. After all it's a completely anonymous instrument which is not at all affected by the normal economy. However the problem is it's volatility we have known that Bitcoin is too volatile So question is whether people would want to diversify their holdings into such a volatile currency?

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You are pretty much right. Few weeks back due to global economic slowdown, all the stocks were painted in red but there stood Bitcoin shining in green from the rest of the commodities. People are going to invest one way or the other, so they resort to cryptocurrencies when other sources become unprofitable.

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Quote from: Leonardo7 on August 15, 2019, 03:54:58 AM

I think the crash of the stock market will make investors buy bitcoin and trade it. I am currently in talks with my fund manager to sell off my mutual fund so I can invest the same in bitcoin. Bitcoin will appear to be a safe haven and this is expected to bring more liquidity to the market.

My opinion is that events in the stock market can affect the price of cryptocurrencies. For example, when stocks of companies become cheaper, investors are looking for new trading tools to invest in. And it is likely that some of them choose cryptocurrencies as savings and capital gains. Everything in the economy is connected, if somewhere decreased, then somewhere increased.

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