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January 05, 2024, 01:30:09 PM
Maybe it could happen, but if you win very large and try to withdraw it little by little to avoid KYC requirements, it can raise suspicion on the part of the casino team.
We need to always remember that the casino team is much smarter than us as gamblers and of course whatever we do will always be monitored and when suspicion arises we will get warning and worse still the account can be frozen for while.
Shouldn't we as gamblers avoid things like this for our comfort in betting and playing, after all casinos asking for several requirements such as KYC for large withdrawals also have good reasons and goals.
They ask it not as if to make it difficult for us to withdraw large amounts of money but to avoid various activities that are strictly prohibited such as money laundering.
As long as use large, trusted casino with very good reputation, it is not worry if are asked for KYC requirements and of course by providing KYC it means that we have become wise gamblers and want to comply with existing regulations.
Don't forget that we gamble using very valuable amounts of money and when we get big win we must always be wise in our behavior, if we are asked for requirements such as KYC we must also provide sake for the amount of money we get and can withdraw it to enjoy.
I could see why a gambler may be mad if they made a small win and they need to verify their identity to the casino in which they are playing, but for those that made a big win they have no other option but to go through that process and accept it, after all we are talking about a big win here and regardless of whatever conditions the casino may make you go through you must respect them, otherwise a casino that is too strict on the application of their TOS could find a way to not pay you what you are due.
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December 31, 2023, 04:44:07 AM
Maybe it could happen, but if you win very large and try to withdraw it little by little to avoid KYC requirements, it can raise suspicion on the part of the casino team.
We need to always remember that the casino team is much smarter than us as gamblers and of course whatever we do will always be monitored and when suspicion arises we will get warning and worse still the account can be frozen for while.
Shouldn't we as gamblers avoid things like this for our comfort in betting and playing, after all casinos asking for several requirements such as KYC for large withdrawals also have good reasons and goals.
They ask it not as if to make it difficult for us to withdraw large amounts of money but to avoid various activities that are strictly prohibited such as money laundering.
As long as use large, trusted casino with very good reputation, it is not worry if are asked for KYC requirements and of course by providing KYC it means that we have become wise gamblers and want to comply with existing regulations.
Don't forget that we gamble using very valuable amounts of money and when we get big win we must always be wise in our behavior, if we are asked for requirements such as KYC we must also provide sake for the amount of money we get and can withdraw it to enjoy.
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December 30, 2023, 06:10:33 PM
If you get on an airplane with a suitcase full of $9000 dollars in cash, you are still technically in compliance with anti-money laundering regulation but it might raise some red flags and you might be questioned by airport authorities. It would be similar with casinos. You might not be doing anything illegal so they will let you withdraw a small amount today without KYC but eventually your account could get flagged if your withdrawals become too frequent or if you exceed a threshold within a certain timeframe.
legendary
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December 30, 2023, 06:27:45 AM
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

I don't think anyone can answer this question with certainty, something like that has to happen to you first and then you will see how it goes and if this can pass or not. I am not sure what "big win" is for you, what I know is that some casinos allow high payouts even without KYC, but it depends on several factors, how long have you been active on the site, and how did you manage to score a big win...

Many of us don't like KYC, but we should still be prepared for it in case the casino asks us for it, after all, we are dealing with money here. That is why it is always advised to respect the casino rules, in case of a big win the casino can take advantage of some irregularity and not pay out that win.
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December 30, 2023, 06:16:53 AM
No one know, but if you were the winner I doubt you will do it, do you know why? you won't want to pay multiple fees when you can send it at once!

Let's say you win 1 BTC and you split to 10, so each withdrawal is 0.1 BTC and the cost of each withdrawal is 0.0005 BTC, so you need to spend for 0.005 BTC or $210. Nah, people always try to save as much as they can.
He actually said that he wants to pay bit by bit so he is definitely prepared about the consequences of doing it. $210 is nothing compared to the $42k that will be left to us if we are withdrawing 1 BTC. And I think for some, any amount will be nothing compared to the value of their details and privacy. But for those practical people like us, for sure we will always value money over any other things.

There's even who sell their identity for a mere $10. Lol, can you imagine that? If we don't want to be in this trouble, we need to read the casino's terms and conditions. See if they support KYC or not. If it's not mandatory, I won't still be confident.
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December 30, 2023, 06:09:42 AM
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

If you win a large amount of money you are already on their radar, and they will monitor your actions so even if you do not withdraw your big earnings but bit by bit there's a possibility that they will ask you to undergo a KYC, if your account is clean and good and you're playing in a reputable casino I don't think this is an issue at all, so before playing it's better to check the reputation of the casino when they will ask you to undergo KYC if it's possible to do KYC before playing.
When you're playing in casinos and you hitting high, there's always a possibility of winning a huge amount of money so have an insight into what you should do.
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December 30, 2023, 05:26:21 AM
All casinos are different, 1 casino may make passing kyc mandatory upon signing up while others make you pass kyc on a big wd, withdrawals totaling certain amount in a day, or a certain amount of money won. They are all different and there is no way to bypass anything, basically don'y sign up if you can't or do not want to pass kyc.
Yes, it's true, as many people have said, there is no other way than to follow the rules by providing and completing KYC, after all it's impossible to win big if the bet is small, of course the bet is also high so you can get a big win, that's why we always remind the OP that it's best to KYC at the beginning so you don't get stuck with problems like some of the previous cases in this forum.

Unless he initially bets only a small bet, maybe there won't be any problems with KYC. Sometimes there are also some casinos that don't ask for KYC. Withdrawing hundreds of dollars, there is never a problem, but if the OP's bet is higher than that, it's best not to try to ignore KYC. casino. Completing it at the beginning is highly recommended unless the OP doesn't want KYC, you should look for a casino that is KYC free but doesn't guarantee security.
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December 30, 2023, 03:06:17 AM
Wouldn't the casino be recording how much you're withdrawing? And even if you try that they would know right and then they will be notified plus I assume you're going to do it consis which means they're going to see you having a pattern of how you withdraw which might make them suspicious of your account as someone that's doing something illegal. Are you ready for the potential headaches that would come with this plan because you're going be spending so much time with this plan.
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December 30, 2023, 02:44:19 AM
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So normal amount for withdrawing not required with KYC? I think is good option for gambler want to make privacy their document linked with gambling platform account without submit document for withdrawing fund but withdraw with normal amount. Will casino or gambling platform allow with this ideas when have some user won huge amount in gambling?
Still my questionable about rule form casino indeed normal amount withdrawing or not when winning huge amount always required for KYC or some time account suddenly got suspend without any cheat or abnormal activities happening with account gambling.
If the withdrawal amount is still below the minimum limit for not doing KYC, gamblers can withdraw their money without needing to do KYC. But when the money you want to withdraw becomes larger and exceeds the limit, the casino may ask the gambler to do KYC. There may still be trusted casinos that don't bother or ask for KYC for gamblers who want to withdraw their money without having to do KYC because they are still within the permitted withdrawal limits. But if casinos still ask for KYC from gamblers, gamblers will have to do KYC. After all, the gambler who gambles at the casino chooses his own casino without doing any research so he doesn't know that there is KYC that he has to do when he wants to withdraw his money.
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December 29, 2023, 11:22:22 PM
#98

Requesting for KYC is not because of your big win, it's because of the withdrawal you're making request for, if you like, be making small withdrawals and if you also like, make the withdrawal at once, what is certain is that when they requested KYC from you and you're unable to make provision of it, you won't have access to make withdrawals, don't even think of dodging them by making false or incomplete provisions on what has been requested, else they may block your account.
Not literally the withdrawal process but rather the amount on his balance he will gonna withdraw. Normal amount withdrawal will not gonna trigger KYC so both the winning big(huge balance) and the withdrawal process are the factors which KYC triggers.

KYC(Know Your Customer) is just a process for recording customers details to counter money laundering. It’s either busting current money laundering act or for future reference once the authorities ask them for records of certain players.
So normal amount for withdrawing not required with KYC? I think is good option for gambler want to make privacy their document linked with gambling platform account without submit document for withdrawing fund but withdraw with normal amount. Will casino or gambling platform allow with this ideas when have some user won huge amount in gambling?
Still my questionable about rule form casino indeed normal amount withdrawing or not when winning huge amount always required for KYC or some time account suddenly got suspend without any cheat or abnormal activities happening with account gambling.
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December 29, 2023, 06:59:18 PM
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All casinos are different, 1 casino may make passing kyc mandatory upon signing up while others make you pass kyc on a big wd, withdrawals totaling certain amount in a day, or a certain amount of money won. They are all different and there is no way to bypass anything, basically don'y sign up if you can't or do not want to pass kyc.
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December 29, 2023, 06:53:27 PM
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may work but still depends on the casino, I mean, there are casino that has a rule where they will ask the gambler to do KYC if they request a withdrawal for a certain amount of money but they can still also ask you to perform KYC despite only withdrawing in small amounts. also, if you've been here in the forum long enough I am pretty sure you've seen threads about gamblers being asked to perform KYC despite only withdrawing a small amount of money.

Some rules in the gambling site will be the essential one,because the KYC alone make the gambling site free from the money laundering.Because the KYC includes the selfie verification feature along with your KYC.So if the gambling account get the issue of money laundering in your account,It help them to find the real person involved in the money laundering.Because it will reduce the chance of the gambling site getting banned because of the individual gamblers cheating on the gambling using the money laundering.The small amount withdraw from the gambling site will not required most of the time KYC,So gambling site also allow low amount of money to withdraw without KYC.
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December 29, 2023, 05:54:12 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

Why dodged? The goal and purpose is to get that big money as much as possible. Even if we don't like the idea of doing KYC, what else can we do? Even if you do withdrawals in smaller amounts, if these casinos ask to get KYC, then follow and comply. Don't be afraid to do KYC if the said gambling site is somehow reputable and licensed. Don't overreact to the possible data breach. What matters and is an important thing here, is that we get our big money winnings.

In the first place, you should know and understand the terms that KYc might be asked once you play on any gambling site.
If you would really be tending to have that kind of method then it does really mean that we dont really have that trust on the site. I cant blame on someone to be that paranoid but it would really be that just be applied into those sites which arent really that trusted on which means that you are testing out those sites arent reputable because if we are dealing with sites which are reputable then you wont really be having those kind of doubts on which it is really that wise that we should play into those platforms which can be trusted or had been known into this market. Of course we would really be that wanting to pull out all of the winnings that we do have.
Not all gamblers would really be planning on spending their winnings back and definitely people or gamblers would really be planning to cash it out all.

Even myself wont really be that having doubts when it comes on cashing out. Dont need on trying out to evade or being hesitant if you do know that you are dealing on the right place.
Just like i have said earlier that you wont really be having doubts if you are dealing with a trusted platform or company.

Then change your approach starting from now towards those new sites.

From now on, always try to read the terms of anything about verification as it might be an issue for you in the future. It's already an obvious action that before testing a new site, that is not even reputable, always take caution about everything including the terms of KYC.

And besides, isn't that usual to just know every side of the new site before testing it?
legendary
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December 29, 2023, 05:43:24 PM
#94
If you want to bypass KYC the best way is probably playing in cassinos that don’t have it at first place

Your strategy is good and it may work but its not fool proof, you may have the account blocked until KYC is done so take it into account…

This is the right answer.

Most casinos nowadays require KYC due to stringent regulations being imposed on most countries that allow online gambling websites to be operated. But if you try to bypass KYC by withdrawing small amounts of BTC, not only that it would be very expensive (high costs of TX fees) but it may also put your own account and funds in danger.

Remember that every casino has their respective TOS and if you breach any of those provisions, the online gambling platform can legally ban your account and withhold your winnings/funds without any notice.

In conclusion, if you truly want to avoid KYC, then register only in a gambling casino that does NOT have any KYC to begin with.

No I don't think this is the right answer because as soon as a casino claims to not conduct KYC ever, it means that the casino is operating in a grey zone or is illegally operating anyway. If they are, what options does a player have when the casino denies withdrawals and claims you have violated their terms of service? How do you take action against a casino that you knew would be operating under illegal terms? I don't think there is a casino that is allowed to offer their services without any KYC preocedueres whatsoever. But if they do, what keeps them from scamming the user when someone wins big time? This is really a bad trade-off as I would rather have a casino KYC me that I know is operating legally than trying to get my money out of a platform that wasn't legal in the first place. The "No-KYC"-promise is worth nothing. It's even worse than a casino stating nothing about KYC.
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December 29, 2023, 04:44:26 PM
#93
If you want to bypass KYC the best way is probably playing in cassinos that don’t have it at first place

Your strategy is good and it may work but its not fool proof, you may have the account blocked until KYC is done so take it into account…

This is the right answer.

Most casinos nowadays require KYC due to stringent regulations being imposed on most countries that allow online gambling websites to be operated. But if you try to bypass KYC by withdrawing small amounts of BTC, not only that it would be very expensive (high costs of TX fees) but it may also put your own account and funds in danger.

Remember that every casino has their respective TOS and if you breach any of those provisions, the online gambling platform can legally ban your account and withhold your winnings/funds without any notice.

In conclusion, if you truly want to avoid KYC, then register only in a gambling casino that does NOT have any KYC to begin with.
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December 29, 2023, 04:26:57 PM
#92
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

KYC policy depends on the casino you are registered with. Some casinos requires KYC before you can be able to make withdrawal while some do not. When it comes to huge win, some casinos requires one to undergo a KYC before they would be able to access the wins.

You can not dodge KYC if a casino request that you do such neither can you decide to withdraw the money bit by bit. Casino already know your account and are bent on getting your details before releasing the funds so tell me how do you think they would allow you withdraw.

From some comments which I have read, I see a reason to believe that a gambler reputation could also be an advantage to withdraw without KYC which I strongly believe. Possibly there could be a clean record as it pertains the gambler activities onboard the casino which have been built over the years with the casino. Only on such grounds, would the casino be moved to release big win to such gambler. OP, I believe you would understand very well after reading all the comments as it deals with your inquiries.
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December 29, 2023, 04:24:47 PM
#91
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
If you don’t want to do kyc, you should not play at casinos that require one. It’s important to read the TOS of the casino so you don’t run into problems later. A couple of things can make a casino flag your account for suspicious activity and request for your personal information. And withdrawal of sums above $10k is one of them, you may not experience such difficulty when making deposits but be sure you will have to complete kyc in order to withdraw from the casino. This is the casino’s own way of ensuring there isn’t any form of illegal activity or money laundering associated with their service.
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December 29, 2023, 04:08:24 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

Casino has tiers of customers verification. With your email verification, password and account security set up should give you the basic requirements to withdraw some dollars but most of the time, it follows basic kyc before you can withdraw and if you want to go for high tier, they will ask for extra documents I think but just know that most casinos now these days they always require a KYC before you can withdraw your winnings.

My advice is this, before you bet in any casino, check well if the casino need kyc verification before you can withdraw, if it's required please do it or kindly ignore the casino in time otherwise the moment you stake or wager any amount and win and you want to withdraw, they will ask you to do it and thr chance of acceptance will be low, that's when they start playing smart just to keep you in the casino and even if you win a million dollars, they wouldn't allow you to withdraw and you probably can't do anything because you signed up to their terms and conditions.
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December 29, 2023, 04:01:50 PM
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If it turns out that you do able to pull out those winnings without being questions asked then its good for you since you dont need to pass those KYC or identification thingy but
if it turns out that it would really be doing or asking it out then you would be having no choice. Actually its not really that something questionable whether you would comply or not
especially if the amount involved is significant then people would really be complying it right away without questions asked.  Grin
We have a few casinos that have allowed gamblers to withdraw high amounts without KYC even though those casinos are regulatory compliance because it has shown that not only the high amount of winnings alone that triggers KYC but also if a player already has good game history on the casinos and the account have not done any action that will make the casino to suspect it activities such accounts are freed many times to go without KYC at some point.

So if you see such cases of withdrawal without being asked for kyc it means that the player has a good reputation and gambling history with Rye Casino and at that, there is no reason to doubt the account.
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December 29, 2023, 04:00:51 PM
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There's a loophole but to be safe gamblers shouldn't take it. Some casino allow small withdrawals without kyc verification been done. For those casino that allow that, you can withdraw smaller amounts and not get asked to provide your documents for kyc verification but there's a problems as when you do it often and get the attention of the security department of the casino, they can place you account on suspension and you'll need to complete your kyc before you'll be allow access to your money.

If the money is in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency and your kyc verify doesn't get attended to on time, you can lose when the market dumps and the value of your cryptocurrency drops. You can also get a rise in value of the coins instead of dropping but that's a risk you don't have to take that's why I said even though it's a loopholes, you don't have to take it. Just complete your kyc so you don't get issues from the casino.
Just because there are loopholes doesn't mean we should take advantage of them. That's a serious risk, and it's threatening our account and our funds to be withheld. You're practically breaking their TOS, which you agreed upon registering. If you're unable to submit KYC, for whatever reason, you shouldn't sign up in the first place. Find an alternative that works for you. I'm not quite sure if there are any casinos that do not require KYC; if there are, use that one instead.

I understand concerns regarding KYC, but I find it a little exaggerated in the OP's case, unless he's unable to verify due to being under 18 or from a prohibited country.
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