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legendary
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December 28, 2023, 11:10:19 AM
#27
I hope the site doesn't flag you for winning big money, but if you play at a big and reputable casino I think it's possible they might not ask you to complete the full KYC, so far I haven't completed the full KYC and had to submit my identity because I only withdraw not too much money from the casino so everything is still relatively safe because I only win a little, never a lot.

But don't know what about those of you who win big winnings, I think they could flag you even if you try to withdraw your money in small amounts and gradually, my advice is that completing your KYC is the most recommended thing to protect your money and account. you are not frozen because you did not fulfill the KYC they requested. The point is to read the casino terms and conditions in full so you can find out more.  Grin
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December 28, 2023, 11:09:01 AM
#26
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.


I doubt that. Casino operators usually monitors players account especially those who win unusually big. They will surely ask you for KYC once you started withdrawing your balance. Maybe you can withdraw part of your balance but not all since they will notice once there’s a frequent withdrawal on your account without any deposit made.

KYC is destined to be done on centralized casino because it's part of AML policy. It’s absurd to still play on centralized casino while you are not prepared to undergo on KYC because it just only mean that you avoiding what’s the purpose of KYC which activities the violates casino terms.
hero member
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December 28, 2023, 11:04:14 AM
#25
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts.
It's possible that it can't be avoided because the casinos decide when they will enforce their KYC implementation rules.
If the application is made when the player has a big win, then there is something the casino wants from the player. What I mean is more of a negative assumption.

Few have succeeded in implementing this strategy, in fact I am not sure it will work if it is done with gradual withdrawals made in small amounts. Players cannot win against a casino model that wants to make a negative impression on players who win big. Another opportunity that will be obtained is that the account is blocked.
legendary
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December 28, 2023, 11:01:41 AM
#24
OP, you got many reasonable answers, but until we don't know the casino in particular you are talking about we won't be sure about how you should proceed because different sites from different jurisdictions have different rules to abide with and therefore also different terms of service.

In fact, in many gambling platforms we won't know it until you try, so please, give us a little feedback when you can and this way we'll be able to help you further or you'll be helping someone else in the same situation as yours.
hero member
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December 28, 2023, 11:01:14 AM
#23
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
It depends, because once there's someone who had won up big amounts then it would definitely trigger the alarm, whether you would really be making withdrawals in partial or on lump sum then it would really be still locked or would be on hold. It would vary on what platform that you are dealing with because we know that there are sites on which it would really be allowing you to make some withdrawal no matter how much it would be and doesnt mothered or asking out everything before you could withdraw on which it is really just that totally opposite into those sites which are shady or into those new or not really that been heard of. In speaking about dodging KYC then it would really be that depending on you whether you are dealing with the right place or not. It would be always pertaining about
doing your own research on which its impossible that you couldnt be able to determine which one, via making those research.
hero member
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December 28, 2023, 10:52:47 AM
#22
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

How big are we talking here?

Because if it's within the limit before their mechanism will trigger, I think you should be fine. I once won around $1000 in a gambling site and I was not worried about KYC (my account is not KYC complied), I just click the withdraw, and the withdraw went out to my address like the usual.
legendary
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December 28, 2023, 10:50:07 AM
#21
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
I don't think so. Sooner or later they will flag your account and lock it till you send them your docs. If you have a problem with KYC, just don't play on a casino which enforces it. The sad thing is, there is almost no casino left which doesn't do KYC... There are some casinos which are not as tight as the others but nowadays all of them have KYC in their ToS which means they can make up any excuse when they decide to use it. (like; the authorities ordered us...) Maybe there will be some good decentralized gambling platforms in the future since as far as I know none of the current ones are popular.
full member
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December 28, 2023, 10:46:39 AM
#20
If you want to go with that plan, you're going to need a lot of patience because if this will work, it's going to be a painstaking process since you need to avoid the withdrawal pattern detection of that website which would be a hard thing to do because they're on the lookout for this kind of people anyway so they're definitely well secured if someone where to do this and with that in mind, I think that it's best if you just do the KYC, that's probably the easiest way for you.
legendary
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December 28, 2023, 10:39:46 AM
#19
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

It is best to avoid KYC platforms if you do not wish to do KYC. You cannot claim that you did not know about the KYC rules later on, anyway. You might even randomly get picked for KYC for no reason whatsoever. That is also a possibility that you should always stay aware of. Getting picked for the KYC procedure  depends on how the KYC trigger system works in the first place. Does it even count lump withdrawal sums or rather just add up all the withdrawal sums in a certain period of time? Or perhaps there is not even a certain period of time? I think every casino might have similar, yet different rules for that.

hero member
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December 28, 2023, 10:39:22 AM
#18
Casinos are smart, and KYC can be implemented anytime, whether you win or lose, so it's not really a big factor.

Thing is, when you gamble in a casinos that are registered, you need to assume already that they will require a KYC, maybe not during registration but eventually that will come. Winning big might trigger the KYC requirement, so you should be ready with that. But since you have your own idea which I'm pretty sure none of us has experience that, so they could not verify.

Perhaps you should just try it on your own first, and who knows, you would be the one to give an answer to your question.  
legendary
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December 28, 2023, 10:37:30 AM
#17
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

Most casinos will have mechanisms in place to make this workaround ineffective. KYC is likely to be requested after the balance exceeds x amount and a withdrawal is requested, rather than the amount than requesting KYC based on the amount that is requested for withdrawal. This is not to say that the workaround would not be effective across all casinos, however I doubt casinos will process the withdrawal and not take the opportunity to ask for KYC in the event that the balance is above the KYC limit, but the withdrawal request is not above the KYC requirement...as in the end, the casino will profit the entire balance if the user does not want to give up their identity and sacrifice their privacy for the balance.
sr. member
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December 28, 2023, 10:29:56 AM
#16
Nope, the casino will always know when someone winning big.
And withdrawing with small amount again and again is not the way out to dodge the KYC, it will be considered as a suspicious act by the casino and for sure it will trigger the KYC.

Withdrawal big amount is not always triggered the KYC, every casino has different policy about that.
If casino can detected the user winning big amount can't manipulate with small fund withdrawing and casino platform will required with KYC? its my ideas want to share for gambler get big amount winning and try not KYC for withdrawing but withdraw small amount not all winning amount. Usually with casino policy will required KYC when winning big amount exactly withdraw all fund will make us on difficult position where casino not allowed.

Personally have prepare document ID indeed any casino not allowed KYC on their policy, we can't expected when winning big amount the new rule added suddenly and required KYC for withdrawing.
sr. member
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December 28, 2023, 10:05:25 AM
#15
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
You cannot escape KYC if it is requirement for a casino. Putting it another way, you cannot be smarter than the casino. There are already many things put in place to monitor accounts that want to bypass it. Do the KYC. If you are not comfortable with them, find a casino that doesn't require KYC.
legendary
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December 28, 2023, 09:55:53 AM
#14
You can't avoid (KYC) always get ready for that.

However, you can use casinos that have higher limits and withdraw without KYC. Most of casino who have a small limit always have limit around (1000-2000$), I already have experience withdraw up to (6000-8000$) on casino (Stake) and 2000-3000$ on Rollbit/Duelbits without KYC.

Type game you're playing are also effected, example like (CASINO/Sportbook).
hero member
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December 28, 2023, 09:48:02 AM
#13
When you have won a large amount then the casino has detected you from that win, even if you withdraw a small amount still KYC will definitely be asked for because I'm sure it's a result of your big win.

We never know that's just my assumption:
But casinos always have a policy where they can ask you for KYC at any time and this is often on big wins when it happens, so what I said is true but it could also be wrong.

The truth is you can't get away with KYC because no matter what the casino has a policy in place.
hero member
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December 28, 2023, 09:44:18 AM
#12
If you often use large amounts of money for betting, you should be aware that you will be asked to do KYC sooner or later. So that shouldn't be a problem for those who often gamble. I never got a big win, but I realized that it is a must for a member if you still want to gamble at the casino. So before you decide to use big money as a bet, you have to check the casino by asking the support service about KYC to decide whether to continue gambling at that casino or look for another casino that does not strictly implement KYC.
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December 28, 2023, 09:42:02 AM
#11
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
The first thing every gambler should do is to read the terms of service before registering in any casino. KYC regulations are one of the most important areas that are discussed in this important document. Don't assume that these are theasme in all casinos this is why it is important to study each one. This idea will be a good option if the ToS stipulates that you can withdraw in bits regardless of how much you won. This is because some casinos will ask for KYC immediately after a gambler has a big win. My point is that some casinos will ask for KYC not just for high withdrawals but for big wins. However, some casinos will not ask for KYC regardless of the amount of wins especially if there is no suspicion of irregular activities.      

If you don’t have any intention to complete your kyc verification then don’t use one that will demand for it if you ever win a huge amount, because if you do you’ll only be inviting trouble to yourself.
I think OP is concerned about casinos that have a limit for withdrawal without KYC. Some casinos include in their ToS that they will never ask for KYC if you don't withdraw above a certain amount. Such casinos wouldn't be trusted if they did otherwise especially if they found nothing wrong about the account. 
legendary
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December 28, 2023, 09:34:28 AM
#10
may work but still depends on the casino, I mean, there are casino that has a rule where they will ask the gambler to do KYC if they request a withdrawal for a certain amount of money but they can still also ask you to perform KYC despite only withdrawing in small amounts. also, if you've been here in the forum long enough I am pretty sure you've seen threads about gamblers being asked to perform KYC despite only withdrawing a small amount of money.
sr. member
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December 28, 2023, 09:26:54 AM
#9
Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
What is the need of playing in a casino that will require KYC when you win big amount. It is like putting yourself in unnecessary pressures. If the casino made it clear that KYC will be required in the case of big wins, then use other casinos when you want to target big wins. I don't see the point putting yourself in a tight situation that will require you to cut corners.

If it is those casinos that will not make this clear from the beginning until you have huge winning, then you can experiment this method even though I doubt it will work.
sr. member
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December 28, 2023, 09:19:21 AM
#8
You can try and could be successful for a few times but I agree with Sunderland that it's not going to stop them from asking KYC. Casinos may start their own investigation or request their game providers to review your game session the moment you won big time and decide to hold off any of your withdrawal requests while that's ongoing. They may allow you to resume without further inconvenience or ask for strict KYC depending on their findings.
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