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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on July 19, 2024, 04:34:08 AM

Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic

I don't see any problem if the person who won on sports betting to wager and bet on an upcoming matches as long as he is knowledgeable about it. Remember, sports betting isn't like a game in a casino where the chance of winning is dependent on the RNG.

As long as the person knows the team and its current condition and is very knowledgeable about that sport, he can bet on the upcoming event since it would be a loss if he missed a match where he has full knowledge of the competing team just for the sake of withdrawing profit and playing again the next day ideal. Remember sports has its schedule so gamblers won't have the luxury to withdraw today and bet later if the upcoming match that he has deep knowledge of has its match schedule today. Sports matches are not casino games that is available every day, 24/7.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 31, 2024, 11:52:03 AM

Since the losing rate is higher than the winning rate it means that long term rollover can't en successfully. If you manage to succeed 5 rounds it should be cleared that it's just luck and nothing more, rollover can't continue being succeeded for anyone unless luck helps.

I think I agree with you, the rate of losing such bets will always be higher and there's not going to be long term success in that rollover thing. I believe someone who's lucky can win many rounds but luck doesn't work in favor of someone for long time and thus there's no chance to win for long term. I prefer to go with safe bets rather than rollovers.

In sports betting, it is the deep knowledge of the team and sports that can give us a high chance of long term rollovers and not the postponing of bets that might make us miss fights that we are well aware of the possible result. Missing the supposed-to-be-won bet will greatly reduce the rollover time of our bankroll.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 31, 2024, 11:52:03 AM

Since the losing rate is higher than the winning rate it means that long term rollover can't en successfully. If you manage to succeed 5 rounds it should be cleared that it's just luck and nothing more, rollover can't continue being succeeded for anyone unless luck helps.

I think I agree with you, the rate of losing such bets will always be higher and there's not going to be long term success in that rollover thing. I believe someone who's lucky can win many rounds but luck doesn't work in favor of someone for long time and thus there's no chance to win for long term. I prefer to go with safe bets rather than rollovers.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on July 27, 2024, 08:00:17 AM

The value of Your odd even the minimum odds is never a guarantee of winning neither does a consistence strategy guarantee winning too it all depends on luck after you might have predicted whatever you feel Will becomes the possible outcome of the game but yeah it is wise to withdraw our profit or our capital in order to minimize future loss just say you have said and we can as well used part of the money gotten from the winning to get something for our for remembering our winning depending on how much we won. Rolling over May not work all the times.

There's this gamblers delusion that the smaller the odd the more their chances of winning but then i have seen some situations where small odds as small as 1.03 still wasn't won. sometimes its not even about the odd, even bigger odds as much as 5.00 are won at some point when 1.03 is been lost.

When you are lucky to win it a very wise decision to quickly make withdrawals first and use the money to do something that will be very beneficial to the individual but only a few gamblers are conscious of this, the other are jus always wanting to win more and not thinking about how to mange that which they have won already. Rolling over is something that we can not totally depend on because its not certain and cannot be sure about winning all the time and your game can crash at anytime.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on July 19, 2024, 04:34:08 AM

We all play sports betting for different reasons, some play for fun and some play for the purpose of getting that extra funds
You can't always rely on betting to give you the money you need but still some people claim to be in profit from sports betting
From my experience long term rollovers can be very risky and uncertain, if your target is 1.30 odds for a month
It looks pretty easy considering the odds, but the question is, can you be lucky everyday?
Can you always win the bet for 30 days without having a bad day even if you have a good strategy
I always tell people that withdrawing your profit after a game is the best thing to do from my experience
Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic

In sport betting odds can be misleading most times and not all crypto gambler's goes along the odds line this is because some times the games providers use odds to play on the intelligence of the gambler, in the sense that their could give a stronger team a very high odds and the weaker team low odds, and by so doing the gambler will eventually chose the wrong team because he followed odds to select his games, but regardless this is what we should do making our own analysis of each team before choosing them gives us an extra level advantage since you will be selecting the games based on your own analysis and not following the odds provided.
I have seen alot of gambler's who select multiple games that run almost a month using such odds line, but at the end they always lose the bet with multiple games going against their selection, so that shows how bad such betting partten could be.

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Well, I can’t speak so much about roll overs but the truth is that I hate seeing we’re people always get to claim that they are wonky gambling for fun and as such as a gambler you shouldn’t be shy to always say it boldly that you also gamble for the rewards because these casinos are strictly in the market to make profits and with this been said, I’m not a fan of rollovers and I’ve seen several threads and telegram groups with claims of having signals for rollover games and I wonder how people get convinced to subscribe to those channels as most of them are scams at the long run and people should stay away from that.
I think a 7days rollover is the best if there is an option for that rather than going to 39 days as I agree with op that it’s very risk to embark on such.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 01, 2024, 01:49:50 PM

You are right, for that very Reason I have looked for strategies so that the Balance does not go away so quickly and that at least it can be seen as a very simple way of doing things better, and one of the ones I have found is to always bet little Money, not to bet more than 10usd , and if that is the Case, it must be done with great care and at least Once a week or once Every 2 weeks.

Assuming that those who say that the game is not capable of making you win, yes it is, and I have discovered that by putting Aside a small portion of our Balance , we can Reach a goal per Week, if we are willing to risk it.

Luck doesn't work all the time in sports betting because it requires a person to know. Luck is important for gambling games because the results there are randomly generated and no knowledge, experience, or strategy can make someone win, if they are lucky, they win, and if not, they lose.

In sports betting, things work differently. You can make random guesses and predictions in sports betting as well, but that wouldn't guarantee anything, and if you have knowledge and experience about a sport, you can make more correct predictions than incorrect ones, and hence, you will be profitable in the long run.

Even if luck doesn't favor you sometimes, your correct predictions should be able to cover the losses easily.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 31, 2024, 11:52:03 AM

Since the losing rate is higher than the winning rate it means that long term rollover can't en successfully. If you manage to succeed 5 rounds it should be cleared that it's just luck and nothing more, rollover can't continue being succeeded for anyone unless luck helps.

You are right, for that very Reason I have looked for strategies so that the Balance does not go away so quickly and that at least it can be seen as a very simple way of doing things better, and one of the ones I have found is to always bet little Money, not to bet more than 10usd , and if that is the Case, it must be done with great care and at least Once a week or once Every 2 weeks.

Assuming that those who say that the game is not capable of making you win, yes it is, and I have discovered that by putting Aside a small portion of our Balance , we can Reach a goal per Week, if we are willing to risk it.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on July 19, 2024, 04:34:08 AM

From my experience long term rollovers can be very risky and uncertain, if your target is 1.30 odds for a month
It looks pretty easy considering the odds, but the question is, can you be lucky everyday?
Can you always win the bet for 30 days without having a bad day even if you have a good strategy
I always tell people that withdrawing your profit after a game is the best thing to do from my experience
Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic

How can you roll over 30 days games? I'm confuse or do you bets on any games you see on bookmakers? As for me, it's impossible but I can try for 30 days but it will be fun and wouldn't be consecutively following each other. Sweet games are been played on weekend and it's safe to say that you can gamble on them with ease than do on leagues you understand nothing about, leagues like Premier League, the Seria A, Bundesliga, and Champions league if there is any available.

Don't forget that your options determine the type of odd you will get, sometimes you it will even be hard to roll over some games because why would you want to bet on a game that has 1.10 odd, all for what? The risk to reward ratio is not favorable, roll over is hard to be honest.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 28, 2024, 01:46:50 AM

Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 26, 2024, 09:47:42 AM

There is nothing like professional gamblers. Gambling sites know what to do in a way that people will lose while gambling. Most gamblers are losing. According to researches, 87% or more of gamblers are losing. I believe those that win more have other source of income than to rely on gambling.

It is a fact that things are like that, it is impossible that there are higher Probabilities of Winning in a casino, I think that the probabilities are even higher than the losing rate in a casino , if they are higher in trading, imagine that in the game they are or are closer to 98%, that is what I think , in fact there are many players who win, but the losing rate is higher, that is why this business is so profitable, in fact having a well-established casino is Always having money, and of course when they have a defined reputation it is much Better.

Since the losing rate is higher than the winning rate it means that long term rollover can't en successfully. If you manage to succeed 5 rounds it should be cleared that it's just luck and nothing more, rollover can't continue being succeeded for anyone unless luck helps.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on July 19, 2024, 04:34:08 AM

We all play sports betting for different reasons, some play for fun and some play for the purpose of getting that extra funds
You can't always rely on betting to give you the money you need but still some people claim to be in profit from sports betting
From my experience long term rollovers can be very risky and uncertain, if your target is 1.30 odds for a month
It looks pretty easy considering the odds, but the question is, can you be lucky everyday?
Can you always win the bet for 30 days without having a bad day even if you have a good strategy
I always tell people that withdrawing your profit after a game is the best thing to do from my experience
Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic

There's absolutely no way for you to be in profit for 30 days in gambling no matter how safe the odds Might seem to you.. It's possible to lose a game even with an odd of 1.02 odds, There are no systems or methods that can guarantee Profit for a long period of time, betting should be played for fun only and even seen as a way of making extra funds..in the aspect of withdrawing your profit it might not actually be a bad idea, withdrawing your profit can minimize your losses compared to rollovers, it's very unsafe to just keep compounding your profits

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Quote from: crwth on July 27, 2024, 04:02:21 AM

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Did you even read the post of the topic or just going to be basing your replies on the topic subject?

He said that he would withdraw, So essentially, you need to put it out before using it again. I know it is about rollovers. It is hard.

Thank you for the way you pointed this out maturely, and yes I read it and my response mustn't always be in the favour of the position of the OP. My only fault is that I never acknowledged you were right with your former replies because the compounding was in my head. And just as the OP concluded in his post, he was open to the view of people about it and my view is that we should not be afraid to compound (what he mistaken for rollover).

For me, it's emotional and not cost-effective to withdraw our money every time we win, it shows our weak minds and lack of preparedness for gambling in the first place. Also, compounding has its advantages as I compound my earnings every time and it has helped me to better work on my gambling psychology as nothing is aggressive in my gambling anymore since my mind is not on the money like before.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on July 26, 2024, 09:47:42 AM

There is nothing like professional gamblers. Gambling sites know what to do in a way that people will lose while gambling. Most gamblers are losing. According to researches, 87% or more of gamblers are losing. I believe those that win more have other source of income than to rely on gambling.

It is a fact that things are like that, it is impossible that there are higher Probabilities of Winning in a casino, I think that the probabilities are even higher than the losing rate in a casino , if they are higher in trading, imagine that in the game they are or are closer to 98%, that is what I think , in fact there are many players who win, but the losing rate is higher, that is why this business is so profitable, in fact having a well-established casino is Always having money, and of course when they have a defined reputation it is much Better.

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Quote from: Wapfika on July 27, 2024, 08:08:30 AM

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My strategy on this matter is just allocate money for gambling while the rest of your funds should be keep outside crypto to avoid greediness. The rollover strategy of the OP makes this topic trivial but the withdrawal of profit while you are still gambling doesn’t make sense for me and just a waste of withdrawal fee if you are still gambling that time.

Just deposit an amount you can afford to lose so that you will not worry much about ypur bankroll.

It's a waste of money and will just go back to gambling altogether.
Management is needed so that the money for gambling is not mixed with the money used to support life and money for investment on other platforms.

I myself also allocate money to gambling, and it is quite minimal because I do limit it.
Rather than depositing it all into gambling, it will be more dangerous if there is no good control.

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Quote from: Reid on July 27, 2024, 04:13:33 AM

Withdrawals will help you keep your funds safe and this is to tell yourself that you are good at what you are doing because you won. It brings more confidence in your body which I think we need a lot when it comes to gambling. IMO, we should casually withdraw if there's a chance because that's the point where we will find joy in gambling.
For long term players, well maybe they have the funds to do so. Let's say it's a spare money that they can afford to lose which is why they are not doing withdrawals even if they doubled their money. Or maybe they have an amount aimed to hit before they do it.

There’s some casino offering vault to separate profit from your bankroll in able to dodge the withdrawal fee if the idea is just keep the funds safe away from betting. But I doubt someone who is already gambling will completely stop gambling after loss when they withdraw their funds since it’s very easy to deposit it back once they feel they want to play again.

My strategy on this matter is just allocate money for gambling while the rest of your funds should be keep outside crypto to avoid greediness. The rollover strategy of the OP makes this topic trivial but the withdrawal of profit while you are still gambling doesn’t make sense for me and just a waste of withdrawal fee if you are still gambling that time.

Just deposit an amount you can afford to lose so that you will not worry much about ypur bankroll.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on July 19, 2024, 04:34:08 AM

We all play sports betting for different reasons, some play for fun and some play for the purpose of getting that extra funds
You can't always rely on betting to give you the money you need but still some people claim to be in profit from sports betting
From my experience long term rollovers can be very risky and uncertain, if your target is 1.30 odds for a month
It looks pretty easy considering the odds, but the question is, can you be lucky everyday?
Can you always win the bet for 30 days without having a bad day even if you have a good strategy
I always tell people that withdrawing your profit after a game is the best thing to do from my experience
Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic

The value of Your odd even the minimum odds is never a guarantee of winning neither does a consistence strategy guarantee winning too it all depends on luck after you might have predicted whatever you feel Will becomes the possible outcome of the game but yeah it is wise to withdraw our profit or our capital in order to minimize future loss just say you have said and we can as well used part of the money gotten from the winning to get something for our for remembering our winning depending on how much we won. Rolling over May not work all the times.

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Withdrawals will help you keep your funds safe and this is to tell yourself that you are good at what you are doing because you won. It brings more confidence in your body which I think we need a lot when it comes to gambling. IMO, we should casually withdraw if there's a chance because that's the point where we will find joy in gambling.
For long term players, well maybe they have the funds to do so. Let's say it's a spare money that they can afford to lose which is why they are not doing withdrawals even if they doubled their money. Or maybe they have an amount aimed to hit before they do it.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on July 27, 2024, 02:50:19 AM

Quote from: crwth on July 21, 2024, 10:53:05 PM

The idea of trying to withdraw every day and making sure that you can withdraw is hard. I think it requires a lot of grit and control to make yourself not over the limit or bet with the situation. You cannot control what the situation can be and that's going to be hard IMO. I think it can be strived for but it has a low percentage to be successful.

You are not getting the gist of this thread, it's not about trying to withdraw the profits every day or anytime there is winning, but about compounding the gains.

the OP specifically mentioned this part

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I always tell people that withdrawing your profit after a game is the best thing to do from my experience
Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic

Did you even read the post of the topic or just going to be basing your replies on the topic subject?

He said that he would withdraw, So essentially, you need to put it out before using it again. I know it is about rollovers. It is hard.

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Quote from: crwth on July 21, 2024, 10:53:05 PM

The idea of trying to withdraw every day and making sure that you can withdraw is hard. I think it requires a lot of grit and control to make yourself not over the limit or bet with the situation. You cannot control what the situation can be and that's going to be hard IMO. I think it can be strived for but it has a low percentage to be successful.

You are not getting the gist of this thread, it's not about trying to withdraw the profits every day or anytime there is winning, but about compounding the gains. Also, you do not have to be compounding when you withdraw your money periodically, or even win and still leave it in the gambling platform for days before withdrawing it. Because of this, the issue of irregular withdrawal and others may not be there. But compounding, it's a different ballgame because it is not about merely keeping the money in there but continuously utilising it to make more money and not still withdraw it for a long period of time.

This is indeed tasking and comes with a lot of temptations as often complained by many gamblers. But for me, it is not, and I must say that I compound regularly. It has to do with the mindset of doing it, if we are such that is not calm but fixing our mind on the money, it will corrupt it to either push us to withdraw or cause emotion that will further cause mistakes in our betting.

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Betting at the odds of 1.3x have a big chance of winning and I agree that strategy can be used to gamble in the long term, with the condition that you never use the martingale system.
1 loss with the odds of 1.3x = we have to win 4 times with the same odd, so never ever use a martingale with this strategy - because losing in a row 3 or 4 times with odds of 1.3x is very possible.
And the most important thing is, you must aware that this strategy is not a guarantee that you will definitely make a decent profit in the end.
In gambling, all strategies will work until luck is not on our side.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 19, 2024, 05:15:56 AM

Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on July 19, 2024, 04:34:08 AM

From my experience long term rollovers can be very risky and uncertain, if your target is 1.30 odds for a month
It looks pretty easy considering the odds, but the question is, can you be lucky everyday?

I don't think you are quite explicit with what your key word is from your title "rollovers". What do you actually mean by rollover in sports betting because I see that as betting on games that are going to start in future dates like the next day or week but if you mean rollover as accumulated or accumulation of profit then it depends on one's emotion not to bet beyond your stipulated limit or you withdraw it out.

Nope, Rollovers are sort of implementing compound interest into gambling, and it is done with relatively low odds as the case may be. You stake a 1.30 odd with like $100 today and win $130, the next day you can stake the same odds, lesser or more with the $130 and keep increasing your funds until the stipulated time.

Rollovers are good, but nothing is certain in gambling. It might even fail you on the last day and you loose all profits you have accumulated throughout the journey, but if it favours you, you would really cash out big from a very little startup funds. I have done it in the past, some I won and some I was disappointed, so never you have you hopes high. Its possible to go on for a month and keep recording wins, only that the chances are really slim.

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