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Those are the losers of gambling, which most of us are guilty of being. However, what about those people who are really good or have the skills to make money in gambling? Of course, we can't blame them for continuing to deposit as they are making money from it. I'm talking about those gamblers who gamble on skill-based games because they are confident that their skills can bring profit. I know most of us cannot relate to that, as our experiences are more losing experiences than winning, but since it's not impossible to make a living from gambling, I believe some gamblers are doing it successfully.

If someone wins huge amount of money from gambling and the person think he can make more money from gambling, the person will likely lose all the money that he won to gambling.
That's likely for most of us, but for a few, it's not going to happen as they have their method of winning, and we cannot relate to that. It's okay to say that most of us lose in the long run, but to believe that all of us do is another thing. It's just like saying winning in the long run is impossible because there are games called skill-based where it could give us a chance of winning.

If someone do not have any source of income and think that he can make it from gambling. The person will lose and become addicted and continue to lose more. These kind of people will become addicted to gambling.

There is nothing like professional gamblers. Gambling sites know what to do in a way that people will lose while gambling. Most gamblers are losing. According to researches, 87% or more of gamblers are losing. I believe those that win more have other source of income than to rely on gambling.

Research is right, 87% or more, so maybe those 10% are really making a living in gambling.
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Those are the losers of gambling, which most of us are guilty of being. However, what about those people who are really good or have the skills to make money in gambling? Of course, we can't blame them for continuing to deposit as they are making money from it. I'm talking about those gamblers who gamble on skill-based games because they are confident that their skills can bring profit. I know most of us cannot relate to that, as our experiences are more losing experiences than winning, but since it's not impossible to make a living from gambling, I believe some gamblers are doing it successfully.

If someone wins huge amount of money from gambling and the person think he can make more money from gambling, the person will likely lose all the money that he won to gambling.

If someone do not have any source of income and think that he can make it from gambling. The person will lose and become addicted and continue to lose more. These kind of people will become addicted to gambling.

There is nothing like professional gamblers. Gambling sites know what to do in a way that people will lose while gambling. Most gamblers are losing. According to researches, 87% or more of gamblers are losing. I believe those that win more have other source of income than to rely on gambling.
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You can't always rely on betting to give you the money you need but still some people claim to be in profit from sports betting
That itself if wrong. Gambling should not be a method to give you money. It should be limited to entertainment. Those who side hustle as "sport bettors" profitablely are often not betting at all just putting up picks, selling them and selling books and courses of making videos.

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From my experience long term rollovers can be very risky and uncertain, if your target is 1.30 odds for a month
It looks pretty easy considering the odds, but the question is, can you be lucky everyday?
You may not be lucky at all.

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Can you always win the bet for 30 days without having a bad day even if you have a good strategy
You cannot. If you are doing that, then the casino would go bankrupt, which never happens.

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I always tell people that withdrawing your profit after a game is the best thing to do from my experience
Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic
You can withdraw profit and continue the next day but over a few days, your wins and losses will balance out and eventually your losses will overcome your wins.
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Naturally, regardless of strategy, there will 100% be days you will lose money. It doesn't even have to be because you didn't withdraw that you'd lose money imo, that's just you not being able to control your greed, it's just that no matter what, even if you're playing on a game on the higher odds team, you can still lose because that's just how competitions go. Not to mention that if you want it to be a chain of wins, then you'd live up to the name of being a gambler really but otherwise wouldn't really suggest it.


The only strategy ever that would be applicable all the time is bet what you can lose. Always.

Also I don't think rollovers are what chain wins mean? At least if that's what I think OP is talking about.
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The idea of trying to withdraw every day and making sure that you can withdraw is hard. I think it requires a lot of grit and control to make yourself not over the limit or bet with the situation. You cannot control what the situation can be and that's going to be hard IMO. I think it can be strived for but it has a low percentage to be successful.
It is possible for those that see gambling as entertainment and yet not going with huge amount of money and also not betting frequently. Any gambler that is betting frequently and also seeing gambling as a way to earn money will continue to deposit and see himself losing all the time. Such people may win, not withdraw the money and yet lose the money and more again. Or if they withdraw money, they will alter deposit the money back and continue to lose in total.
Those are the losers of gambling, which most of us are guilty of being. However, what about those people who are really good or have the skills to make money in gambling? Of course, we can't blame them for continuing to deposit as they are making money from it. I'm talking about those gamblers who gamble on skill-based games because they are confident that their skills can bring profit. I know most of us cannot relate to that, as our experiences are more losing experiences than winning, but since it's not impossible to make a living from gambling, I believe some gamblers are doing it successfully.
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The idea of trying to withdraw every day and making sure that you can withdraw is hard. I think it requires a lot of grit and control to make yourself not over the limit or bet with the situation. You cannot control what the situation can be and that's going to be hard IMO. I think it can be strived for but it has a low percentage to be successful.
It is possible for those that see gambling as entertainment and yet not going with huge amount of money and also not betting frequently. Any gambler that is betting frequently and also seeing gambling as a way to earn money will continue to deposit and see himself losing all the time. Such people may win, not withdraw the money and yet lose the money and more again. Or if they withdraw money, they will alter deposit the money back and continue to lose in total.
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That's the ideal thing to do. Even with exchanges, we don't trust our money to stay in their accounts for too long because we never know what might happen. And with the withdrawal fees being very affordable, especially for altcoins, there's no reason to keep our funds in the casino. I have my bankroll too, which I consider a big bankroll, but I keep it in my wallet. This is intended for gambling only, and I only send a small portion to my casino/sportsbook account. After every session, I withdraw the remaining funds. That way, I can sleep peacefully at night.

Being robbed by the casino is the least of your concern for leaving your funds in the casino because it’s very rare to happened if you are playing only on trusted casino.

The real danger for leaving funds in the casino is the tendency of being greedy and bet recklessly when you are at vulnerable state like waking up in the morning or can’t sleep midnight. Having a casino balance all time can expose you on risk of betting when you are at the worst condition that makes you doesn’t think carefully.
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We can not be lucky everyday as lucky will only comes to the right person and in the right time. Even if you force yourself to playing gambling everyday and hope you will wins the money, that will still difficult to happens. You will only have a big chance to lose your money rathen than to wins the money so you must realizes how big your chance.

Even if you have high skills in analyzing the match, that doesn't mean you can be lucky and wins the match everyday. You should know that the match situation can change anytime so you will not wins on that match. But you have another chance to win in the next match.

You can use different strategy everyday just to attract your luck. But you will not know when your luck will comes. You only have a chance to keeps trying but you must realizes how big your chance to wins.
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Rollovers can be very risky even if it's just for 5 days, the risk and uncertainty is very high,  you are not in control of the market so it's impossible to have continuous winning streaks no matter the kind of strategy or plans you have..I would always say that withdrawing your profit is the best way to go, it still doesn't guarantee safety tho, because your rollover can end badly even on the first day which is way you must learn risk management so you don't count too much losses
The unpredictability of games to a degree of 100% is enough to get anyone knowing that rollover will only be a streak of luck in its sequence and not a guaranteed probability but it's funny to see how some other literally make it all about their skills.

Until they get to suffer huge losses then they will understand that it was just them getting Lucky all along, like you did mentioned earlier it could still be possible that even from the first day you may loose it or on the last day just when you think you have been able to scale through the whole week and expect to get your lat game and make profit for the day only to have your loss on the last day of staking.
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Op no one can rollover a game for complete 30 days with thesame pattern or strategy and expect a regular win. We all know the risk in gambling, so for that reason it is better we take our profit when there is winning than just keep rolling over. As a matter of fact 1.30 odd is not even a sure odd, because 1.01 odd still cut ticket. So the odd at times does not give a high hopes or chance of winning because most people feel that the lesser the odd the high chances of regular win. But I must tell you this there is more to predict than odd. Sometimes previous matches and the position of a club in the table should also be considered. sometimes the framing of the match and the strength of the players against there openent should be considered than odd, it gives more wining chance than just picking small odd and hoping for a rollover win. This is my idea you guys can contribute if you like.
There is no strategies that is 100% trusted even though you seems to be winning at the initial time there would be a time were that same strategies does not work anymore, you would lose your game for that duration of 30 days. Even if you make winning and decide not to withdraw your winning you will still have them there safe if you do not play bet recklessly or being greedy to increase your bet size then your winning will be safe but in a way where you always want to win huge amount it will result to lose which you won't be really happy with yourself so it is better to avoid it than falling victim of it and knowing that there's no lasting strategies neither is winning very sure.
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I always did what OP tells people to do. I used to withdraw but not for the reasons that OP has quoted. I usually withdraw because I don't trust the casino to hold my money for me and because I want to have less money on the account so that I start another session fresh, knowing exactly how much I want to bet and depositing that exact amount. This is for sure the best option especially when so many people have reported that they experienced delays and other problems when trying to withdraw large amounts of money so it's always better to do it after every win.
That's the ideal thing to do. Even with exchanges, we don't trust our money to stay in their accounts for too long because we never know what might happen. And with the withdrawal fees being very affordable, especially for altcoins, there's no reason to keep our funds in the casino. I have my bankroll too, which I consider a big bankroll, but I keep it in my wallet. This is intended for gambling only, and I only send a small portion to my casino/sportsbook account. After every session, I withdraw the remaining funds. That way, I can sleep peacefully at night.
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We all play sports betting for different reasons, some play for fun and some play for the purpose of getting that extra funds
You can't always rely on betting to give you the money you need but still some people claim to be in profit from sports betting
From my experience long term rollovers can be very risky and uncertain, if your target is 1.30 odds for a month
It looks pretty easy considering the odds, but the question is, can you be lucky everyday?
Can you always win the bet for 30 days without having a bad day even if you have a good strategy
I always tell people that withdrawing your profit after a game is the best thing to do from my experience
Let's say you play a game of 1.30 odds with 2000 naira, it's wise to withdraw your profit and stake again the next day
So that even if it goes sideways your loss will be minimized. This is just my idea about this
You can share your ideas and strategies on this topic


Rollovers can be very risky even if it's just for 5 days, the risk and uncertainty is very high,  you are not in control of the market so it's impossible to have continuous winning streaks no matter the kind of strategy or plans you have..I would always say that withdrawing your profit is the best way to go, it still doesn't guarantee safety tho, because your rollover can end badly even on the first day which is way you must learn risk management so you don't count too much losses
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I always did what OP tells people to do. I used to withdraw but not for the reasons that OP has quoted. I usually withdraw because I don't trust the casino to hold my money for me and because I want to have less money on the account so that I start another session fresh, knowing exactly how much I want to bet and depositing that exact amount. This is for sure the best option especially when so many people have reported that they experienced delays and other problems when trying to withdraw large amounts of money so it's always better to do it after every win.
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Clearly, some people aren't gamblers Wink
I haven't paraded myself to be a gambler. Please, take note of that very carefully... I've also made it clear on almost every post I make ; how i derived my experience and from which perspective it was.... If something happens - once in every 100 millionth occurrence, isn't it as good as not happening at all? I always thought that every gambling stays around feasible features that can guarantee a win at some point of trial so what's the sense in wagering on a single/identical odd for 20 days straight?
Because the more you chain bets, the more likely you are to not win; you can't be the exception forever.
This is it...
When in Rome, you behave like Romans - clearly we're in the midst of those who doesn't know what bet slips are, who hasn't spent 1 cent on any event in their life pretending to be gamblers.
How about we make a different topic - maybe in the off topic section - about the experiences we've had, from whatever perspective that was?
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Op no one can rollover a game for complete 30 days with thesame pattern or strategy and expect a regular win. We all know the risk in gambling, so for that reason it is better we take our profit when there is winning than just keep rolling over. As a matter of fact 1.30 odd is not even a sure odd, because 1.01 odd still cut ticket. So the odd at times does not give a high hopes or chance of winning because most people feel that the lesser the odd the high chances of regular win. But I must tell you this there is more to predict than odd. Sometimes previous matches and the position of a club in the table should also be considered. sometimes the framing of the match and the strength of the players against there openent should be considered than odd, it gives more wining chance than just picking small odd and hoping for a rollover win. This is my idea you guys can contribute if you like.
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How can you apply a strategy while gambling? Moreover, you are also relying on it to make a fixed amount of money every month? Gambling all depends on luck; hence, there is no certainty of making money. No matter how much low-risk you take, there will be some chances that will make the bet amount to 0, if it’s not your day. Hence these long-term rollovers are useless. Bet when you feel like a team or player will win the match by doing proper research, and if you win, cash out the profits immediately. Gambling is all about either winning or losing, nothing in between.
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The idea of trying to withdraw every day and making sure that you can withdraw is hard. I think it requires a lot of grit and control to make yourself not over the limit or bet with the situation. You cannot control what the situation can be and that's going to be hard IMO. I think it can be strived for but it has a low percentage to be successful.
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The best move is to not consider betting or any gambling activity for a way to make extra funds, it is just not true or logical that someone playing a game of luck, the odds are given by the casino or sportsbook to make them generate money, and someone comes with his luck in betting will say that I can make profit in the long term.

There are few tricks and methods like betting Arbitrage, will make the player always win, from taking advantage of the odds. This method for example, takes a lot of time, mathematical calculations and analysis, and waiting the good opportunity.

I don’t believe that based on normal bets, someone ever made a profit in long term, especially those who allegedly sell signals that makes you rich in few days.
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Can you always win the bet for 30 days without having a bad day even if you have a good strategy
No one can always win the bets and that's 100% logical but actually the ones with good strategies can win many days without losses and if they face some losses after winning 10 to 20 bets then such loss doesn't impact them at all. However, it's still wise to withdraw the money after winning 2-4 bets to prevent losses.

3 days is even too long not to experience losses in gambling, either in casinos or sports games. I think 3 days is way too long not to experience losses in gambling, no matter what best strategy the gambler is using. The first days I played the crash, baccarate, and dice games, I experienced several losses, and even as I tried to understand the game and even practice some strategy with streamers, I still could not go one day without losing. In sports games, at least I can agree that it's possible that a gambler can luckily go one day without losing but rarely.
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Some people don't actually know how difficult it is to rollover 1.30 odds consecutively, you won't realize it until you actually want to start with a huge stake. I've had 0.5 goal market ruin my odds rollover multiple times.

A lot of people. We gamblers are naturally illogical about math, and we believe odds are tied to pure probability. OP seems to think 1.3 is high win probability, but in reality, it's low value and the chances of you losing within 2 consecutive bets is more than 40%.

This is why it's critical to analyse recent form, in-depth statistics, and not just rely on odds when picking games; bookmakers know gamblers are illogical about math, so they frequently play around with the odds to throw us under the bus, for e.g recent Champions League qualification games, where a few games with 10 odds are thrashing a 1.45 odd team.

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Clearly, some people aren't gamblers Wink

When in Rome, you behave like Romans - clearly we're in the midst of those who doesn't know what bet slips are, who hasn't spent 1 cent on any event in their life pretending to be gamblers.
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