Can Old Casino Keep Up Without Support Here In Bitcointalk Or Signature Campaign - page 3.

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Quote from: CryptoYar on May 28, 2022, 02:18:41 PM

It is not necessary that every casino website should start a signature campaign. As far as I know they (companies) run signature campaigns to improve their domain authority and to get more visibility on search engine.

And if a company does not need these things. That is, they already have good rank on Google then they don't really need to run signature campaign and yeah they can survive without it.

Maybe the thing that some of the casinos nowadays that are related to crypto tend to create signature campaign in this forum because we all know that this forum is the first ever forum for crypto even satoshi once used this forum. And we can't deny the fact that we used gambling thread for us to know what casinos are reliable and having a good review , they can use this for more traffic in their website as well.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 29, 2022, 03:05:54 AM

Well, the owner will be the one to decide if it's pointless and worthless. He's or they are the one to decide to fund up their campaigns so, as long as they see the metrics of it and they think it's no longer worth it.

Then they're free to stop it.

But if there's a good result that shows up with their metrics and results, there's no need for them to stop it as they see the worth of each buck they allocate on it.

It do really depends on the budget because ive seen some campaign do only last up for 1 week then completely stop which they are really testing it out if it does really work or get users or not and you are right that it do matters on them because they would last or tend to stop it directly if they dont see any results but just like been said by others that results doesnt come out on 1 week duration or few weeks because it would really be getting results in longer duration but of course it will really depend on the site if its good to look at or something interesting because marketing is useless
if your site is shit.

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Quote from: Wexnident on May 25, 2022, 07:12:28 AM

Bitcointalk isn't the only method of advertising that crypto casinos use. I don't even think we're THAT big of a source for users, but it is a hub for new users to know what's up since there are countless threads about the majority of the well-known casinos here. All in all, I'd say yes they can, since the market isn't limited here in the forum. Now if you were solely specifying the forum, then I don't think they'd be able to keep up, unless users of the casino themselves were to bump and talk about the casino within a mega thread of their own.

No doubt bitcointalk.org is one of oldest and most populative crypto forum but there are other media also available that can help you grow and run business. So i dont think that if any platform has migrated away from bitcointalk.org then his chances to grow and survive are over. Bitvest and 777Coin are still very popular crypto casinos.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on May 28, 2022, 02:13:18 PM

Quote from: livingfree on May 28, 2022, 01:33:10 PM

During the early days, when most people still did not believe in crypto.

This forum was the best for them because it hit the exact people that they need for their ads. Yeah, maybe not right now but still there's the exact reason why every crypto casino is in here it's one of the most effective ways to hit their niche.

There's an attachment already to them and that's why there's no need for them to leave and they can just stop or continue at their own will if they want to as per as advertising and marketing.

For sure there are some long time running campaigns doesnt really mind off about on how much hits they do able to get out from their signature campaign whether its still relevant or worth or not but still they do consider

out to continue for the sake of exposure and awareness of its existence without boggling about hooking up players as much as they could.As long they do able to sustain then that what surely counts
and it do turns out to be a behavior on where most business would actually do the same thing.

Some do see for it to be beneficial and some do see for it to be pointless.It all matters to them but having ads on this forum i must say which is something that needed
specially for those new players or owners in the industry.

Well, the owner will be the one to decide if it's pointless and worthless. He's or they are the one to decide to fund up their campaigns so, as long as they see the metrics of it and they think it's no longer worth it.

Then they're free to stop it.

But if there's a good result that shows up with their metrics and results, there's no need for them to stop it as they see the worth of each buck they allocate on it.

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It is not necessary that every casino website should start a signature campaign. As far as I know they (companies) run signature campaigns to improve their domain authority and to get more visibility on search engine.

And if a company does not need these things. That is, they already have good rank on Google then they don't really need to run signature campaign and yeah they can survive without it.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 28, 2022, 01:33:10 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 28, 2022, 08:42:19 AM

I think the forum is not the biggest source of players in probably all crypto casinos and sports betting sites. I think Bitcointalk is also probably not the place of marketing where most referrals are coming from. I could be wrong of course but that's my impression.

I know that Bitcointalk is contributing very well to the growth and success of the casinos that are promoted here. But leaving Bitcointalk won't probably cause these casinos to fall and lose their clients.

During the early days, when most people still did not believe in crypto.

This forum was the best for them because it hit the exact people that they need for their ads. Yeah, maybe not right now but still there's the exact reason why every crypto casino is in here it's one of the most effective ways to hit their niche.

There's an attachment already to them and that's why there's no need for them to leave and they can just stop or continue at their own will if they want to as per as advertising and marketing.

For sure there are some long time running campaigns doesnt really mind off about on how much hits they do able to get out from their signature campaign whether its still relevant or worth or not but still they do consider

out to continue for the sake of exposure and awareness of its existence without boggling about hooking up players as much as they could.As long they do able to sustain then that what surely counts
and it do turns out to be a behavior on where most business would actually do the same thing.

Some do see for it to be beneficial and some do see for it to be pointless.It all matters to them but having ads on this forum i must say which is something that needed
specially for those new players or owners in the industry.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 28, 2022, 08:42:19 AM

I think the forum is not the biggest source of players in probably all crypto casinos and sports betting sites. I think Bitcointalk is also probably not the place of marketing where most referrals are coming from. I could be wrong of course but that's my impression.

I know that Bitcointalk is contributing very well to the growth and success of the casinos that are promoted here. But leaving Bitcointalk won't probably cause these casinos to fall and lose their clients.

During the early days, when most people still did not believe in crypto.

This forum was the best for them because it hit the exact people that they need for their ads. Yeah, maybe not right now but still there's the exact reason why every crypto casino is in here it's one of the most effective ways to hit their niche.

There's an attachment already to them and that's why there's no need for them to leave and they can just stop or continue at their own will if they want to as per as advertising and marketing.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on May 27, 2022, 08:49:29 AM

There are many other places/websites where you can advertise your casino but by running a signature campaign and promoting your business here on this forum you guarantee you will be targeting crypto enthusiasts.
Ending a signature campaign which has been running for a long time certainly wouldn't affect the casino till the point to shut down their business especially if they have already built a solid customer base and keep their promotions somewhere else to attract new players. But it will certainly raise some questions/concerns such as if they are running out of funds.
On the other hand, having an announcement thread and keeping it active by posting updates and answering other members questions is a must. Stopping interaction without any logical explanation will certainly affect them.

I think the same, at the end of the day a casino can decide to do whatever they want with the way they promote themselves, and if they reach a point in which they think they do not need to rely on a signature campaign then it is their right to end it whenever they feel is the right time, however keeping their ANN thread open here is a must, otherwise people would begin to worry about the possibility of that casino preparing to exit scam their customers, and that is never a good thing.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 28, 2022, 08:42:19 AM

I think the forum is not the biggest source of players in probably all crypto casinos and sports betting sites. I think Bitcointalk is also probably not the place of marketing where most referrals are coming from. I could be wrong of course but that's my impression.

I know that Bitcointalk is contributing very well to the growth and success of the casinos that are promoted here. But leaving Bitcointalk won't probably cause these casinos to fall and lose their clients.

Yeah, I agree. Nowadays, a lot of people or casino owners will advertise their casinos mostly on social media platforms because they can gather more audiences from them. But not doing a signature campaign here also has an impact on them because, you know, mostly those players or gamblers here want to try newly launched casinos when they see them, so there are still players here but still not that many. But to answer the OP's questions, yes they can keep up as long as they are listening to their players and also have no issues with their casinos.

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I think the forum is not the biggest source of players in probably all crypto casinos and sports betting sites. I think Bitcointalk is also probably not the place of marketing where most referrals are coming from. I could be wrong of course but that's my impression.

I know that Bitcointalk is contributing very well to the growth and success of the casinos that are promoted here. But leaving Bitcointalk won't probably cause these casinos to fall and lose their clients.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on May 27, 2022, 07:02:31 AM

Quote from: judeafante on May 25, 2022, 06:59:30 AM

A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.

Sorry about Lightlord. But was there a time Bivest and 777Coin stopped running campaigns in this forum? Am sure they stayed behind because at some point CryptopreneurBrainboss had to manage them and he did a good job on them.

Yes, there was. If I'm not mistaken, there were some difficulties with the previous campaign manager (before Brainboss and Hhampuz). You may want to have a look at the old threads where some of those guys had their problems with 777Coin and Bitvest campaigns.

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Quote from: Saisher on May 25, 2022, 08:52:41 AM

The signature campaign, being active here and ads here in Bitcointalk are such a big help for new and old casinos

But bitcointalk forum is not the only place casinos and gambling sites place their adverts. There are several others they do that on. Am sure there are casinos which do not even bother coming here to advertise, but they have huge number of users.

Moreover, I believe that Bitcoinalk is still the largest crypto-related community and perhaps the largest forum with a dedicated gambling community. Of course, there are other places where casinos are advertised, but it's hard to find a more targeted advertising place than Bitcoinalk.

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Quote from: judeafante on May 25, 2022, 06:59:30 AM

Can an old casino that's very active here in Bitcointalk, through support, forum advertising, and signature campaign, suddenly pull the plug and stop doing all these things can still keep and still maintain its position in the market.

A case study is Bitvest and 777Coin we know that Lightlord was sick and now he is well and comes back from time to time but not doing the same thing they're doing for many years.

You already gave out two examples and that is bitvest and 777coin so yes it is highly possible. Not only that two casinos but there's even more and they are bitsler, bitdice, wolfbet and windice. Some casinos pull the plug but after a very long time, they are once again spotted on the service section running a fresh signature campaign.

There are some that tries bounty campaigns this time. Maybe they think that sig camp are only focused on this forum but bounty campaigns have lots of coverage. After pulling the plug it is expected that the traffic from the casinos are also going to decrease, that is because no new visitors can see and visit their sites.

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Surely, the activities of the forum in form of campaigns or any other method of publicity surely plays a role in the way casinos gets to hold up but certainly won't lead to its crash. The publicity to a casino doenst end in the forum, most might start here or not but, there are several other fields employed in this promotion such as Discord, Twitter, Telegram and other social media platforms.
Although, its important that, they run a campaign here every now and then to aid them keep up with the competition as more and more casinos keeps coming up regularly and each offering more better services and increased level of fair play. So, to compete better, you ought to keep up in campaigns win new customers from the highest crypto involved users forum.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 27, 2022, 03:49:08 PM

Quote from: Finestream on May 27, 2022, 03:38:15 PM

Yes, they can be helpful in some ways especially if its a newly opened casino, but as time goes by and this casino has already build its own credibility to its players, then even if they lost the support from bitcointalk forum or signature campaigns, they can already manage to stand on their own and continue their legacy. It does not matter whether its an old casino, but as long as the interest and satisfaction of the players are still met, probably this old casino will still continue to operate.

Loosing the support from the forum is a different matter altogether, it is hard to manage without the support of the community but the established platforms can still do business without any signature campaigns. We have seen some of the major sportsbook reaching out to major endorsement and sponsoring them and running a campaign here is much much cheaper.

Since they are already the old site and already tested by many, they can afford not to have any marketing campaign here but if they want to continue attracting new players, then I believe this forum is still the best place for them to market the site. There are some site paused their campaign here but later on they will come back, maybe that 777 or Bitvest will have a new way to market their site, let’s just see and wait for that.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 27, 2022, 03:49:08 PM

Quote from: Finestream on May 27, 2022, 03:38:15 PM

Yes, they can be helpful in some ways especially if its a newly opened casino, but as time goes by and this casino has already build its own credibility to its players, then even if they lost the support from bitcointalk forum or signature campaigns, they can already manage to stand on their own and continue their legacy. It does not matter whether its an old casino, but as long as the interest and satisfaction of the players are still met, probably this old casino will still continue to operate.

Loosing the support from the forum is a different matter altogether, it is hard to manage without the support of the community but the established platforms can still do business without any signature campaigns. We have seen some of the major sportsbook reaching out to major endorsement and sponsoring them and running a campaign here is much much cheaper.

Their Ann thread isn't active anymore which any complaints or feedbacks are just simply been ignored which isn't something good for the business but I would say that it won't really be that necessary if they don't have any complaints or had been long time running because if they do still have users left on the site then people won't boggle up their minds in terms of this issue but we know that having support or having some campaign is much more preferable for having such more exposure.

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Quote from: Finestream on May 27, 2022, 03:38:15 PM

Yes, they can be helpful in some ways especially if its a newly opened casino, but as time goes by and this casino has already build its own credibility to its players, then even if they lost the support from bitcointalk forum or signature campaigns, they can already manage to stand on their own and continue their legacy. It does not matter whether its an old casino, but as long as the interest and satisfaction of the players are still met, probably this old casino will still continue to operate.

Loosing the support from the forum is a different matter altogether, it is hard to manage without the support of the community but the established platforms can still do business without any signature campaigns. We have seen some of the major sportsbook reaching out to major endorsement and sponsoring them and running a campaign here is much much cheaper.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 26, 2022, 06:59:00 AM

If you ask me, I believe that there are other casinos that might have started to spend some of their marketing budget outside Bitcointalk. Advertising in this forum first is the best path to build a loyal group of users, but capital is limited. To scale the business, it requires some of the casinos to reduce marketing here to increase marketing somewhere else and increase their users on top of their loyal customers. It's merely another trade-off.

Yes there are. One that I know is thefairspin casino. Before they start a campaign here I already saw their casino ads before on the random websites that I visit. Seeing the casino on a different review site is one it because the casino might be paying those review sites to get featured their brand and also to create an attractive review and we already know that there are so many review sites that are found online (outside bitcointalk).

Another one that I can think of is 1xbet or 1xbit but this one is kinda shady. People won't worry on this site and even if they have active campaigns, the result that they are getting are always be the same. It was still negative.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on May 25, 2022, 07:53:01 AM

Sure why not? All of the forum advertising through signature campaigns, bounty stuff etc all helps these casinos and people to become aware of them but they aren’t 100% reliant on the forum and if they were they likely wouldn’t last very long. Of course again there’s a reason they advertise here and that’s because it works, but it’s not 100% essential.

Yes, they can be helpful in some ways especially if its a newly opened casino, but as time goes by and this casino has already build its own credibility to its players, then even if they lost the support from bitcointalk forum or signature campaigns, they can already manage to stand on their own and continue their legacy. It does not matter whether its an old casino, but as long as the interest and satisfaction of the players are still met, probably this old casino will still continue to operate.

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There are many other places/websites where you can advertise your casino but by running a signature campaign and promoting your business here on this forum you guarantee you will be targeting crypto enthusiasts.
Ending a signature campaign which has been running for a long time certainly wouldn't affect the casino till the point to shut down their business especially if they have already built a solid customer base and keep their promotions somewhere else to attract new players. But it will certainly raise some questions/concerns such as if they are running out of funds.
On the other hand, having an announcement thread and keeping it active by posting updates and answering other members questions is a must. Stopping interaction without any logical explanation will certainly affect them.

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Quote from: Bitinity on May 27, 2022, 05:51:58 AM

There are many other factors as the key of success for casinos.

I somewhat agree with you, just because they stop the campaign doesn't always mean their casino would eventually become outdated and slowly lose steam against their competitor, sometimes it's better for casinos to redirect their budget aside from campaigns and look for alternatives that will give better results. We can't blame them if they suddenly end the campaign regardless of the results they've gained from it. This reminds me of Nitrogensports and Cloudbet, I remember these two had a sig campaign at some point back then, after it ended they still kept on going and still doing well up until now. I know Cloudbet launched their campaign recently but they'll still likely keep up with the competition even if they become inactive.

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