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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

It all depends on the trader, if you think trying out a nee strategy is ok for you then why not especially when you're not having result as it used to be, one must definitely try out something new, as at this current time, the most common strategies is to use DCA in making an investment which is a long time one, we also have some trading pattern that can be suitable base on choice and required needs, day trading is somehow commonly used by many because everyone wants a daily return on investment.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

The market structure needs alot of strategy to keep it stable and running, a strategy is based on your personal analysis about the market situation so whether new or old no strategy is old in as much as the end result is achieved successfully.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

When it comes to long term trading, a trader must know that the strategy he has taken is based on analysis. Many times trading strategy does not work even after doing good analysis, because no one knows the future, and the reason for saying this is that the market condition always depends on the global economic condition of that time, and also the rules and regulations, and since it is a changing process. It is natural that many times the old strategy will not work.
And I don't think those professional smart traders goes for sleep with a single strategy after investing money. They are always aware of the market conditions and are always ready to make adjustments to the strategy as needed.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on March 25, 2023, 12:55:13 AM

but we can't assume that it was effective just like before. We also have to understand the situation that the market trend is quite changing from time to time which I see some upgrades to our old strategies would even help more and more effective. As a trader, it was very important that we have to analyze the market well and were also able to assess if our strategies are still working or if we need to change them. This is what we called diversification as we can't stay forever using old strategies but also have to bare the current market condition.

If the strategy works, then it doesn’t matter to me whether it is new or old, only the result is important. I know that there are traders who actively trade only in a bull market (local or global), but if the market is bear, they just wait. This is also a strategy, so you can’t say that new strategies are good and old ones are bad, you can even combine different strategies to create some of your own that will work for you in the best way.

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Quote from: Quidat on March 25, 2023, 06:59:32 PM

Effectiveness is something that cant really be determined because no matter if its new or old because this market has nothing to do if ever you do make use of old methods or strategies.
Its either new or old as long it does give out some considerable winning and profitable trades then this what matter the most.Just like on what others been saying that you should really be that versatile
or could really make out some positive results because you are the ones who would really be making out adjustments if ever one of those strats wont work.Of course it would be normal
that you would be finding for something new which you would really be having that trial and error.

If we talk about old or new strategy, I don't think it has much effect on your profit.
There is no such thing as a market following a strategy but a strategy that follows the direction of the market, for example the market is trending down, we must follow the movement of the price direction within a certain period of time.
Never force a strategy if it is no longer suitable for the current market conditions.

You are right, use the most effective strategy that can reduce the level of losses, I myself always use this method, following current market conditions and not being pushed by old or new strategies.

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sometimes I think that having some strategies in trading nowadays rather irrelevant mainly because everything revolves around the current hype and trend.
you just couldn't expect the text book strategy will just works, many of them are miss or hit, even there are many saying that these trading guide book are just a way for the whales in determining many individuals traders move so they could easily take advantage of it and make some profits.
I'd say just trade based on your analysis on the project, if it happens that it gets corrected when you already accumulating then you could just simply hold for some time, I think that is simply best strategy.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

They still might be working but are less effective. They'll somehow become obsolete due to the change in market behavior which is why we also have to do some upgrades and discover new strategies to fit the current situation, otherwise, it was hard to make a profit. Meanwhile, we can still use some of those old strategies but not really often. I'd say it was less effective due to the fact that we can't rely on them as we need to look for other strategies that would really work efficiently.

They will be less effective if we fail to upgrade them and update to their latest version. That is to fit in with how the market behaves currently. However, if those strategies have made you consistently losing from trading, I think there’s something wrong with your strategies or there’s something wrong with how you trade, maybe you fail to make a good analysis on the market. Whatever it is, you should always check your strategy if it’s still working, otherwise you have yo create and develop new strategy that will suit the market’s current behavior or condition.

Effectiveness is something that cant really be determined because no matter if its new or old because this market has nothing to do if ever you do make use of old methods or strategies.
Its either new or old as long it does give out some considerable winning and profitable trades then this what matter the most.Just like on what others been saying that you should really be that versatile
or could really make out some positive results because you are the ones who would really be making out adjustments if ever one of those strats wont work.Of course it would be normal
that you would be finding for something new which you would really be having that trial and error.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

They still might be working but are less effective. They'll somehow become obsolete due to the change in market behavior which is why we also have to do some upgrades and discover new strategies to fit the current situation, otherwise, it was hard to make a profit. Meanwhile, we can still use some of those old strategies but not really often. I'd say it was less effective due to the fact that we can't rely on them as we need to look for other strategies that would really work efficiently.

They will be less effective if we fail to upgrade them and update to their latest version. That is to fit in with how the market behaves currently. However, if those strategies have made you consistently losing from trading, I think there’s something wrong with your strategies or there’s something wrong with how you trade, maybe you fail to make a good analysis on the market. Whatever it is, you should always check your strategy if it’s still working, otherwise you have yo create and develop new strategy that will suit the market’s current behavior or condition.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

There is nothing unique about trading that new traders are using today, the only improvements that could differ from the traditional methods are the indicators. However what use are indicators if you don't comprehend the fundamentals of trading? The fundamentals, such as the trend line, the supports, and the widely used indicators like MA, Volume, and MACD, are still in place. The only unique thing is to be smart as a trader and that will differentiate you from other traders. I think before trading of crypto began, all of this have been existing in stock and forex and they still used the same information for trading till today

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I don't know what strategy you used, but I think the pattern of trading will be the same. You can still use the strategy you have when the circumstances allow it. all you need to do is adapt, see the progress of the charts, as well as the information available. if the circumstances are suitable for the strategy you are using, then give it a try. however, if not, then you need to adapt, and try new strategies.
Apart from that, people still use the basics of trading, namely buying low and selling high. to determine that, we really need to adapt to market conditions, and look for accurate information whether the price of the coin we are targeting will go down or up. the strategy for doing that, can use your old way or your new one, and it all depends on the conditions.

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Trading strategy changes from time to time. But market behavior comes around in a circle. One strategy may stop working for a while, but when history repeats itself, it will be useful again. We collect data from past price movements and trade based on it. If we are trading based on the past, then it is obvious that the past strategy could work again. You just need to fine tune it a bit at market's demand.
It is the best to have multiple strategy and use them simultaneously based on market condition. But you can definitely re-use old strategy.

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Trading strategies in the cryptocurrency markets, like any other investment strategy, require updating and modifications as the market changes and conditions change. New strategies can give better results if they take into account current market trends and new developments.
However, one should not completely forget about old strategies that have worked well in the past. They can be stored in memory and used when market conditions suit them. It is also worth considering that market conditions are constantly changing, and that what worked in the past may not work in the future.
As a result, in order to successfully trade in the cryptocurrency markets, you need to remain flexible and ready to adapt to changes in the market, constantly updating and modifying your trading strategies.

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Quote from: borovichok on March 24, 2023, 09:51:57 PM

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

The market condition will never stay bad all the time, as it will always recover when the right time comes. So if you are using an old strategy when the market turns bad and it didn’t work out, then might as well reuse it when the market is performing well so you can check if it would work out or not. That way, you will know if there is a necessity to change or just improve your old strategy to make it work.

Old strategy do works again in trading specifically when the market retraces back to the solid formulation of the season, it can be either a bull or bear. There are seasons which will consumed more losses from traders and it's very unfavorable to the investors because it would seems like all the solid projects took a U-turn and becomes dump projects in the space. However I wouldn't advised or wished for any trader or investor to experience such a terrible situation, because the results will drained their mindset and they will possessed FUD and FOMO when the market rebounce back to strong spot.

but we can't assume that it was effective just like before. We also have to understand the situation that the market trend is quite changing from time to time which I see some upgrades to our old strategies would even help more and more effective. As a trader, it was very important that we have to analyze the market well and were also able to assess if our strategies are still working or if we need to change them. This is what we called diversification as we can't stay forever using old strategies but also have to bare the current market condition.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

The market condition will never stay bad all the time, as it will always recover when the right time comes. So if you are using an old strategy when the market turns bad and it didn’t work out, then might as well reuse it when the market is performing well so you can check if it would work out or not. That way, you will know if there is a necessity to change or just improve your old strategy to make it work.

Old strategy do works again in trading specifically when the market retraces back to the solid formulation of the season, it can be either a bull or bear. There are seasons which will consumed more losses from traders and it's very unfavorable to the investors because it would seems like all the solid projects took a U-turn and becomes dump projects in the space. However I wouldn't advised or wished for any trader or investor to experience such a terrible situation, because the results will drained their mindset and they will possessed FUD and FOMO when the market rebounce back to strong spot.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

The market condition will never stay bad all the time, as it will always recover when the right time comes. So if you are using an old strategy when the market turns bad and it didn’t work out, then might as well reuse it when the market is performing well so you can check if it would work out or not. That way, you will know if there is a necessity to change or just improve your old strategy to make it work.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

It’s always possible so instead of forgetting them, take some chance to update them, improve and enhance their effectivity before you start reapplying them. If they are still not working, that’s the time to develop new strategies that you think will suit to the market condition, and keep on retesting them in times the market condition varies.

This idea that a successful strategy can somehow suddenly become ineffective is a mistake in my mind, a strategy either works or it does not, and if you take the time to backtest your strategy against different markets and conditions and it still makes money then there is no way that such a strategy suddenly become obsolete, this can only happen if the strategy was not good to begin with, for example there are people that made money with NFTs and now they are trying to do the same and to their surprise they cannot make money with those tokens anymore, it is obvious that they were just using the hype at the time and once that was gone they cannot generate any money at all, however I would not consider such a thing as a strategy, but maybe I am to strict on my requirements of what I consider a strategy.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

It’s always possible so instead of forgetting them, take some chance to update them, improve and enhance their effectivity before you start reapplying them. If they are still not working, that’s the time to develop new strategies that you think will suit to the market condition, and keep on retesting them in times the market condition varies.

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I'm not sure that one trading strategy can be used often because the current situation has changed a lot. The market is now more volatile than in recent years and this makes us have to have more strategies by learning more to anticipate what is happening in the market.

And if I already use one strategy, I will make another strategy that might help the strategy I used before so I can adapt to market conditions. My strategy will depend on market movements because if the market moves not to match to my analysis, I will change my strategy to another.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

Thinking about how trading strategies need to always be changed and how one strategy may not work for a long time, what do you do with the strategy that you are about to change. do you just forget about it completely once a new strategy starts working for you? or do you keep it in remembrance for the future. If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

When it comes to crypto currencies, the market is always evolving, so should your trading strategies. If one of your strategies works today, after few weeks or months, chances are that it might not work anymore. You will need to come up with new strategies that will work with the current market situations. But yeah, you should also not toss away your old strategies. They might work again in the future if the market condition goes back to the previous state and you can also analyze the old trading strategies to learn something new!

How can you define an old strategies and new strategies? is that the old strategies came from the old trading books and the new strategies are the trending strategies currently in the internet? For me all of the strategies work, it is how you apply it. Application is the crucial ones in the trading, you can still lose huge amount of money even if you have good trading strategies then your application is not that good.

Before you apply your trading strategy,ask yourself with this question: does the money that I put for this trade is the money that I can afford to lose? do I have a stop loss for this trade? What is my Value at risk with this trade? What will I do if I did not get position? Is it okay for me to get stop loss. If you can answer those questions, there is a high probability that you can make money from your trading strategies. Remember that how you think about trading is the most important thing because your analysis will not help you if your mental fortitude is not good. Invest on things that can help your mental fortitude to grow wherein your trading environment can become healthy that can help you to find the way into consistency and profitability.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 20, 2023, 03:51:32 PM

If you have experienced this before; has any old trading strategy that you decided to apply work for you? Is it possible that old strategies may work in the future again?

Super yes! I will not really be against this. Especially the strategy that you already master it. And for me, the strategy does not matter if that is old or new, as long as is it working and giving you good profits, it's all good.
Once you are good at that strategy, you always use it because that strategy is giving you profits.

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