For starters Religion has nothing to do with gambling and should be removed from the conversation.
Secondly, what makes a compulsive gambler compulsive is not religion but one's personal character or perhaps one's love for material stuff and the alike and simply put lack of control leads to compulsive behavior !
Bte If we are going to say religion here, then we are saying religion teaches all its followers to be compulsive by nature which is false, Religion borders around the element of peace and love and these can not make you compulsive.
Topic: Can One's Religion Compel A Compulsive Gambler To Quit Gambling - page 2. (Read 429 times)
Anyone will gamble secretly and secretly, they don't even want family members, relatives, or even fellow believers to know about the gambling activities that are being carried out.
This is a natural thing considering that there are also many gamblers who really want to be anonymous in gambling.
Apart from the religious prohibition, gambling is also badly viewed in social life.
In the neighborhood where I live, anyone who gambles is branded as a bad person and is not respected at all.
Spot on. Shame doesn't need religion to fuel it but it helps. I think it's frowned upon no matter where you live, especially if you are doing it a lot. Which is weird. In finland it means you are contributing to lots of charities as well when you gamble. So it should be viewed as a public service to put your money in.This is a natural thing considering that there are also many gamblers who really want to be anonymous in gambling.
Apart from the religious prohibition, gambling is also badly viewed in social life.
In the neighborhood where I live, anyone who gambles is branded as a bad person and is not respected at all.
I guess people see the generic gambler as irresponsible, even if they don't know anything about their lives. And i am guessing there's a bit of jealousity when gamblers win and because gamblers dare to live more on the edge, while non-gamblers deny that from themselves. So they are easy bunch to hate or pity. I still see haters as a minority as most people know you can gamble while not being an addict or irresponsible.
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If he is a gambling addict, he will continue playing no matter the circumstances, especially when he still has the money. Maybe he will regret everything he has done, including gambling, especially when he has lost a lot of money and destroyed his family so maybe he can just stop. But if he is still okay with his gambling addiction, even though many people force him to stop gambling or because religion forbids him, he will still play, even in secret. It was because he had found his passion in gambling and it was difficult to stop unless he finally realized his mistake.
Religion is but a doctrine to keep people on the right track with said punishments if they sway from that track - nothing more.
The final decision to commit a crime or do something un-religious depends on the person itself and their morals. I dont mean that gambling is an immoral thing to do, as long as it is in moderation, it can be fun.
Just converting to another religion is nothing more than a facade done for other reasons, it does not change the person. An addicted gambler will remain an addict unless they seek professional help.
The final decision to commit a crime or do something un-religious depends on the person itself and their morals. I dont mean that gambling is an immoral thing to do, as long as it is in moderation, it can be fun.
Just converting to another religion is nothing more than a facade done for other reasons, it does not change the person. An addicted gambler will remain an addict unless they seek professional help.
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Well obviously, but he would be doing it in secret because peer pressure of religious community. They wouldn't be trying to hide from deity they worship. Or they could even find loopholes from the religion to justify their gambling.This is a natural thing considering that there are also many gamblers who really want to be anonymous in gambling.
Apart from the religious prohibition, gambling is also badly viewed in social life.
In the neighborhood where I live, anyone who gambles is branded as a bad person and is not respected at all.
This really depends on the person, but mostly if the person's reason for converting to another religion is very personal and for his belief, for sure he can quit gambling on it as it has a spiritual effect on him as well as his belief, but again, there are still others who will play secretly. I do have a lot of friends who believe gambling, drinking alcoholic drinks, and eating pig is a sin for them, but they still do it anyway, but secretly. I also have friends who really don't do it at all. But the chances really are high for those who quit gambling due to a belief or other reason.
Generally, I don't think that you can compel someone to stop doing something or do something that they don't do, if you force them, they might act like they've left doing it or if you are making them do something, they will do it in front of you but with a heavy heart and won't actually do it from their heart which is useless in my opinion, if they do a practice themselves because they believe it is good or bad for them, that is what matters.
There are religions that prohibit gambling, like Islam, which doesn't allow Muslims to gamble because it is considered a sin and the money earned from it is considered Haram (prohibited to use), so if someone converts and becomes a Muslim, they are religiously not allowed to do it, but no one can compel them, if their religious beliefs are strong, they might stop doing it themselves.
There are religions that prohibit gambling, like Islam, which doesn't allow Muslims to gamble because it is considered a sin and the money earned from it is considered Haram (prohibited to use), so if someone converts and becomes a Muslim, they are religiously not allowed to do it, but no one can compel them, if their religious beliefs are strong, they might stop doing it themselves.
I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
I think that if all of this is based on a sense of coercion and compulsion, the success rate in getting the gambler to stop is very minimal. Because approaching someone even though through religious channels, but by force, usually will end badly and tend to hate that religion more. Because in my opinion, playing gambling or not, it's each person's right, the most important thing is not harming each other, I don't think there will be a problem. But if we take it into the context of religion, there are indeed some religions in this world that prohibit gambling. But what I know, there is no religious teaching that forces someone, especially people of that religion, to immediately stop playing gambling. So if you ask whether people who gamble can stop because of certain religious teachings, in my opinion the answer is relative. Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Because when it comes to the awareness of the human heart, in my opinion it is a matter of the almighty, and human speech (religious experts) is only an intermediary, which cannot guarantee an outcome.
Religion forbids people to gamble but if a compulsive gambler has no intention to stop gambling, I think it's hard to happen because it depends on the gambler himself. If he embraces one religion to stop, that's good for him because he has already realized that gambling is prohibited by religion.
If we force a compulsive gambler to stop gambling, I suspect it will be some resistance from him because he has no intention of quitting yet. After all, a compulsive gambler can hide his gambling activities from others so that those around him do not know if he is a compulsive gambler.
Maybe we can only advise him to stop gambling but we cannot force him. But whatever it is, the compulsive gambler can continue playing so quietly that it means nothing even if he embraces his new religion.
If we force a compulsive gambler to stop gambling, I suspect it will be some resistance from him because he has no intention of quitting yet. After all, a compulsive gambler can hide his gambling activities from others so that those around him do not know if he is a compulsive gambler.
Maybe we can only advise him to stop gambling but we cannot force him. But whatever it is, the compulsive gambler can continue playing so quietly that it means nothing even if he embraces his new religion.
I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
I guess it depends? I'm more of the reason the person will quit because you just don't get "converted" into a religion. It means you believe in it or its beliefs resonate with you. Now I'm not a religious fanatic, but a basic change in a person's beliefs can go a long way, not just in religions really. Who knows, the person may actually just need a reason to stop gambling, and his new religion may be enough of a factor to push it. Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
But I wouldn't pull out playing secretly. An addict doesn't exactly stop doing what he's addicted to all at once. It's a slow process. If he can manage that, then I reckon it should be possible. If not, well, withdrawals have a high chance of happening and in that case, quitting may just be far from actually happening.
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
Yes.When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
You don't have to when it's already successful. These gamblers will change for their own betterment if that's what they're looking for. But if they don't think that they've got a reason to do that even if you force them with these things to change, they won't change.Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Yes.At the beginning, it's hard to change instantly but eventually these secret bets might even be gone when the will power is stronger to change.
I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Considering that gambling can become an addiction and disease as strong as alcohol, cigarettes or other illicit drugs, I believe that there are several possibilities for each situation.
Most religions prohibit gambling, so most people who are not atheists could be in this situation.
Whether you actually drop games or continue playing occasionally or play in secret depends on many personal factors:
First, imagine someone who is forced by his parents not to play because the family's religion forbids it, I believe he will easily play hide and seek.
Now, imagine someone who went through great financial difficulties, got into debt to the point of losing a car or his house, his wife left him and his children no longer respect him... then he bowed in faith and got a second chance at life. life to start over. It is very likely that he will never play again.
It is possible that he'll comply with the religion's rule of not gambling and at the same time gambling secretly. At the end of the day, this will depend on the gambler's willingness to submit to its religion and if he's really pursuing to change, he'll follow what rules are said to that religion.
While those that are still helping themselves and looking for ways to stop themselves so that they won't get addicted will find this as a solution. But then again, this will depend on their willingness so all of the answers to the questions are possible.
While those that are still helping themselves and looking for ways to stop themselves so that they won't get addicted will find this as a solution. But then again, this will depend on their willingness so all of the answers to the questions are possible.
I think it is possible but would depend on how strong his belief is. We are talking about impulsion here wherein it is a state that a player is gambling as part of his everyday routine, or without thinking of having to put a stop on such behavior or habit. Religion on the other hand is a belief and all of its teachings are meant to be applied on a daily basis. So if an individual would come across a religion and would take initiative to engage to its teachings, then there's a tendency for him to change behaviors and habits that are against what is wrong or in contrast with those teachings. We all know gambling is not supported to most, if not all, religion. Which is why I pointed out it dependence with the strength of that individual's faith.
I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
I think this is entirely possible especially if that person is devoted and dedicated in following the morals/lessons of his/her religion.
Remember that there are countries where religion is the main focus and drive of the country. Specifically, Muslim countries prohibit the use of any gambling activities as they deemed it unlawful. Following this kind of prohibition, it is but obvious that these countries would completely prohibit gambling which makes it almost impossible for the inhabitants to attempt it.
Though this may be the case, there are still people who gamble even if their religion prohibits. At the end of the day, it depends upon the person if they respect their religion which makes them avoid gambling at all cost.
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
Converting to another religion is a hard choice and it requires 100% realization that those persons really decided to do so.
Therefore, we can assume those persons are really serious about following the so-called "doctrines" of that religion - and that includes minimizing gambling activity (if it's prohibited under that said religion). Their everyday life will surely be changed after converting and it will affect their prior usual activities e.g gambling etc.
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Honestly, the bottom line here is, no one here can really give us a close answer since it should come from a person who has the experience like that. I don't know if there's a user here who has that situation and is willing to share their experience.
That's the reason why the topic is somehow no need for any further discussion. Instead, maybe it's good to ask that on a forum where there are sections for religions. However, you really need to post and ask the question manually in each thread.
I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Religion is capable of making a genuine adherent cease from engaging in whatever activity that's not in line with his religious belief. Like Karl Marx clearly stated that "religion is an opium of the masses". It is one tool that's fundamentally used to subdue the actions and inactions of humans and especially when it is used in the positive it is capable of changing anyone away from their old lifestyle and behavior.Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
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Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
if the person is indeed genuine about following his religion, he can very well opt to life-changing decision and commit to whatever his religion is teaching him to live a better life. but yes, if he is just using the religion as a front, then he can easily be swayed by personal desires. this is why religion is not the ultimate route in changing the life of a person because it is still heavily dependent on the person himself.
I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Religion is capable of making a genuine adherent cease from engaging in whatever activity that's not in line with his religious belief. Like Karl Marx clearly stated that "religion is an opium of the masses". It is one tool that's fundamentally used to subdue the actions and inactions of humans and especially when it is used in the positive it is capable of changing anyone away from their old lifestyle and behavior.Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
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Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?
When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
If the religion he is moving to doesn't accept gambling and consider it a sin, it's likely he is going to stop betting, so he will be being coherent with his decision of becoming an adept of that religion, which will have a heavy impact on several aspects of his life.When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?
Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?
Obviously, since it's everything about the "free will" we have in life. We are on the control of the situations we face daily. We can choose being coherent or incoherent towards them. The person can continue gambling secretly, maybe because he isn't strong enough to fight his fleshly desires or maybe because he isn't aiming to be loyal to his new religion since the beginning, that is, he is just joining it for another reasons, such as social status and financial reasons (what is really common).
If you’re into gambling that much, then it will not be easy but if you are serious to change your course and start following the words of the Lord then you can achieve it and be free from any gambling stress.
Religion have their influence to their followers though believe it or not, not all are following their rules so expect that some can still gamble secretly especially those who are not serious about quitting.
Religion have their influence to their followers though believe it or not, not all are following their rules so expect that some can still gamble secretly especially those who are not serious about quitting.
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