Topic: Can One's Religion Compel A Compulsive Gambler To Quit Gambling - page 4. (Read 429 times)

Based on what I have witnessed, I can say that religion can change a person's preference toward gambling but if he's deep into it, religion will still not be a hinder for him to quit. I have a new churchmate who is known in our community as a gambler. He has converted to our religion and is attending Sunday services regularly but regularly, he still gambles the whole week. However, we are not judging him for what he's doing because we all know how hard it is to totally turn his back from his routine. His belief will not totally change him that fast but I believe that he will still have the courage to change his perception in time.
The decision to change his life still relies on a person's decision and not on any religion. It needs courage and self-control to avoid and quit gambling because it will take a long process of willingness and commitment to change.

This came back to him, because if he seriously wanted to change his beliefs and wanted to be even better by following religious rules then of course he would provide an explanation that gambling is prohibited in any religion. It's just that here we cannot be 100% sure whether the method of prohibition is totally or in a way that is much more acceptable to gamblers, for example through several stages of meditation, self-control, trying various positive activities that have been prepared in such a way as to divert their gambling habit. So I return everything to what method he will later use in the process of studying religion.

I'm a little at a loss to respond to this thread, let alone read the title. because, based on my understanding and point of view. the religion that I believe in is not coercion, the religion that I believe in, gives you freedom. it's just that, there is no such thing as absolute freedom. one must know, what is not allowed and what is allowed. religion, is just a guide for someone who believes in it. It should be noted, that what you do or someone does entirely on their own awareness. it's just that, in everything we do, we will reap the results, whether it's bad or good. At least, the concept is as simple as that. "from my personal point of view"

Now we discuss the case, whether religion can cure a compulsive gambler, even to stop. The answer is very simple, it could be yes, it could be no. However, it all depends on each individual. In fact, we've had a lot of discussion about compulsive gambling and methods for stopping it.
IMO, even without religion, someone with any addiction can stop depending on how the individual is. as I often say in discussions like this, that in essence, if someone wants to get rid of or recover from addiction. the problem is with him, if he has a strong determination and desire to recover "in this context gambling addicts" whatever the method of healing, it will be very effective with the results.

Of course there are, even some people say they don't want to use a signature from any casino for religious reasons. Gambling is also the same, some users do not gamble even though they have quite a lot of knowledge about gambling. Gambling is expressly prohibited in all religions, but you can always choose your own path in life.

Religious reasons have also pushed some people to stop gambling especially when they are sober. But back to the main topic, they have their own way about gambling regardless of whether religion, country, community and anyone in your social sphere forbids it.

Would you even be a guy who goes to church when you goes everyday online playing cards?
I doubt that and religion will just be a waste of time for them. Unless your family was already a member of a congregation and then suddenly you discover internet casinos. You're going to be pulled back by your family and friends to quit the casino.

One reason why a gambler becomes a church member is to steal church money. I could be wrong but he is up to something.

I don't think this is something off-topic, our characters connect how we gamble and our belief in gambling, I've been creating topics about gambling and the characters, situation, and belief, we are all governed by beliefs and our environment and people that surround us, I just witness some people that continue to gamble secretly even though their sect or group prohibit gambling, and also seen how a person totally stopped gambling after being converted, and people stopped after being converted but return afterward.
I just want to ask our members here what are their beliefs and do they know of some people whose religion made an impact on their belief in gambling.

Quitting gambling requires awareness on the part of a person and not coercion. Even if he is forced to stop, if he does not know that gambling has made him addicted to gambling, he will not stop, and maybe he will continue to gamble secretly.

It's certainly not easy to open his mind because he is already addicted to gambling. But if he realized he had made a mistake and wanted to cure his gambling addiction, he might have the chance to do so. And if he eventually converts to a certain religion and finds out that gambling is forbidden, maybe he will realize that and be able to stop gambling.

Talking about religion is actually a sensitive matter, moreover this is the realm of gambling. But let's talk about something say a person can stop gambling because of religion. Theoretically, yes, in the end, many people stop taking actions that are considered bad, not just gambling, but in any case. So I'd say religion can push a person away from gambling.
Indirectly, I have also heard a lot from any religion which in their teachings prohibits gambling. I don't want to say much about this, so I'll return to each individual.

I think the person will be gambling but could be doing it secretly so that other believers in his or her religion will not judge him if they catch him gambling, which could be considered a sin or disobedience to the true believers of their religion. Although the attitude of every human is different, some people will say that "as our faces are different, so are our attitudes and characters." Some people can really get dedicated and buried in the beliefs of their religion, which can just make them take a turn and shun gambling or anything that their religion condemns.

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That's possible, because I often see people who have started to pursue a religion or have recently changed religions because this is very likely to happen, have changed into a different person leaving many of their old activities that are not in accordance with the religion they currently adhere to, so even when it may not be possible for people who have just experienced a change in religion because they feel a new sensation that encourages them to change to become a better person, including stopping gambling, especially if it is not recommended in their new religion.

maybe when the religion he adheres to is only based on inheritance from his parents or when he does not study that religion so he only becomes a follower and not one who carries out the teachings of that religion.

Religious teachings have a very strong motivating effect, so I believe that when a person is deeply immersed in religion he can easily cope with any addiction. I have heard that even addicts who use hard drugs have overcome their addiction with the help of religion. So it is possible to get rid of gambling addiction, alcoholism, obesity and other ailments with the help of religion. But you have to understand that a deep dive into religion will change your outlook on life very much.

Is it possible to play secretly with someone you believe in? I think that in every religion, there is a reminder that God sees everything. Who will this player be trying to fool? If he considers religion to be a new trend and being a believer is just a consequence of fashion for him, then I think that the passion for both the game and money will prevail in his "religion."
Christians have an expression: "You cannot serve God and mammon", so for a real person who wants to follow the laws of religion, there should always be only one choice.

I have heard of people doing so by converting to really strong,rigid and against human rights religion like Islam is in my view.I live now in a country with the majority of the population being Muslims and I have seen a lot of ongoing talks from the I don't know how they are called the spiritual leaders that every Friday call for people to quit immorality,gambling and alcohol drinking.It has worked in some degraded persons in the sense that they are back now not doing these things anymore but they are now just robots who don't enjoy anything in life anymore,and as bottom line even this is not really stopping from gambling,mostly is stopping from life pleasures.

That will depend on two things here; first is is the new convert ready to follow that religion deligenty? or is he/she just there for the sake of being identified as a follower of that religion but they are not ready to follow their doctrine.
If they are ready to submit their self to the teaching of their religion then it will be possible for a compulsive gambler to stop gambling totally, but they will also need to be monitored during their period of their early withdrawal so that they can help with continuous advice and therapy by the religion leader.


Like I said, they will need constant monitoring because it will be difficult for them to just call it a quit all by themselves they need the support of others. If they are left to do it all by themself they is a possibility of them returning back to gambling or do it secretly if they feel they will be disgraced if noticed by others.

Religion can influence a gambler to quit. If you have ever been under a religious teaching consistency you would understand that religion is influential. It has the power to change anybody's behavior gradually and sometimes immediately. The teachings of some founders of these religions are inspirational and you can accept them without rational thinking. These religions also have good counselors that are experienced in handling many kinds of disorders. I was counseled by a religious marriage counselor and I find her advice valid today. But stopping gambling also requires the willingness of the gambler. If you are not determined to tackle gambling addiction these religious teachings will not influence you. You should accept that you have a problem and you must show readiness to control your gambling activity.

Continuing to play in the secret is hypocrisy. It shows that you are not a true believer in the religion or unwillingness to quit. It is very difficult to stop an addiction which is why it is better never to start one.

I'm sure all religions have restrictions on gambling, so there's no need to mention any religion, because almost all of them have bans on gambling, but if you're already an addict, it seems difficult to stop them, not just religion and sin, but even their families might not want to hear what if being advised about sin and religion about the gambling ban, I think it will be difficult, I have friends who have different religions and they say the same.

I think religious people know about the sin and prohibition of gambling so everyone doesn't care about it anymore or maybe those who don't believe in religion so they continue to be gamblers and play, but still religion can't force people to stop gambling because all depending on the gambler.

There are some religions that have strict rules against gambling and forbid all adherents to gamble.
But no religion can force adherents to stop gambling because it is a choice like someone who has just entered or converted to a religion that is not under any coercion from anyone.
A religion teaches truth and virtue so it depends on the people themselves whether they can comply with the prohibitions in their religion or not.

As an example, my own religion strictly prohibits gambling, but I still do it because it is my choice and I am responsible for what I choose.

Here in my country, there are many sects and religions, and I have seen some people who convert from one sect to another for convenience but still continue with their old habits, the elder or the leader of the sect or religion should monitor the convert if he really changes the habit and views about gambling so he can guide him to repent and change his ways.

Chance can really happen if he is true to his heart he converts to one religion or sect because he needs to change his way for a better life here and in the afterlife not because of conveniences from work or because he wants to have a good association and reputation.

It will be difficult for an addicted gambler to stop gambling but it is not impossible being that the level of devotion that one has to a religion can help them break free from habits and help them to change their ways to be in line with the doctrine and principles of the religion they believe in. If a religion that someone chooses abhors gambling, they have to change to become strong devoted believers of that religion. A new convert may struggle with his addiction to stop because he just got converted, but as he increases his devotion to his religion, it can help them gain self control of themselves and strong discipline to stop gambling.

This is only possible if the person is not an addicted gambler or a Chronic gambler and again such person's does really surrendered him or her self purely to the religion because I strongly understand every believer of any religion are a dedicated member who are truly routed into that commission and would never wants to act against their ethics and religious.

So, those who are merely converts may not stops gambling and until they understand the things of their doctrine and have fear to follow those things carefully may lead them to stop gambling, hence if the spirit is not convinced and the body is willing such person would certainly go back to gambling. Until the body and souls is routed and convinced then such persons will definitely quit gambling and must not be given a space otherwise whenever he comes to his carnal body he might go back to his past did.