Well let's see how it all pans out. Facebook is looking to launch its own crypto Libra. A lot of controversy there at the moment but we will see
Nope facebook and Libra are doing their moves to keep distance from each other as Libra is now changing Name "DIEM" i don't know whats the real score about this action but at least clarifying that this tend to separate libra from Facebook,So this might be the reason from facebook decentralization . 
Topic: Can online platforms like Youtube and Facebook really be decentralized? (Read 1072 times)
December 16, 2020, 07:43:45 AM
December 16, 2020, 05:25:58 AM
Decentralization in this case is all about cryptocurrencies. If you want youtube / facebook. I think the system will be centralized on one server. I still can't imagine if their system is decentralized. unless they issue their coin / token which is crypto based. If you think everything will be decentralized, I think maybe it will in the end. but it still takes a long process to get there.
December 16, 2020, 02:18:34 AM
Yes, it's very possible to have such platforms fully decentralized. However, I believe you won't expect that to happen because non of them will interested in going towards that direction. This is because full decentralization often leads to loss of control and non of those billionaire owners would want to lose control of the platforms they have built over the years that have made them what they are today. Yes, YouTube and Facebook can be fully decentralized but that's not going to happen.
December 16, 2020, 02:06:58 AM
Despite the fact that the world now is fully digitalized, I still dont believe that Facebook and YouTube platforms will be decentralized. This two largest social media networks had been run by a group of people for several years and Its impossible that they will make decentralization with this two platforms. There are a lot of things to consider before implementing such kind of management innovations, and the main factors to consider here is the advantages and disadvantages of decentralizations for this two largest social media platforms to all the users worldwide.
December 14, 2020, 11:38:37 AM
Well let's see how it all pans out. Facebook is looking to launch its own crypto Libra. A lot of controversy there at the moment but we will see
December 13, 2019, 05:41:50 AM
Lol, leave these greedy folks out of a transparent and decentralized ecosystem. I don't know much off Youtube but definitely Zuckerberg is not the kind of person who will cherish entrusting power to the people. Facebook is the controlling type of platform, these days everything is regulated and you have to pay to boost your views when you make a post.
You're pointing out Facebook ads, right? So what's the problem with that? Google ads also is a paid platform to advertise. Everything is paid and you can expect good results if it's done well.But yeah, Facebook is also controlling one especially when it have the access to our information and privacy. It's just quite annoying that why some wanted to make everything decentralized? I know we hate being controlled but YouTube and other social media platforms is better to stay that way.
December 12, 2019, 05:34:44 PM
As long as big corporations handle these platforms, it's obvious that they will remain as is and will continue to do so until the end of these platforms' popularity. Though anyone can start their own decentralized platforms, the thing is most big names and people are invested and have their eyes fixed on these giants. Though there might be a few random groups of enthusiasts that cling on small hubs of unknown platforms, it still is not enough to defeat these giants on what they do, but at least they are alternatives.
I agree to this point and in fact the reality into this industry.It wont easily be beaten or replaced up by decentralized ones.Ive seen in the past on a certain project that trying to build up a decentralize social media but it looks like they have failed due to lack of support or funding which indicates that interest into these field isnt really that high for them to succeed.
But it isnt really bad to push up this idea if theres someone do have the capacity and dedication to clash up their main competitors.
December 12, 2019, 05:11:25 PM
Lol, leave these greedy folks out of a transparent and decentralized ecosystem. I don't know much off Youtube but definitely Zuckerberg is not the kind of person who will cherish entrusting power to the people. Facebook is the controlling type of platform, these days everything is regulated and you have to pay to boost your views when you make a post.
December 12, 2019, 04:27:06 PM
I see a lot of people abuse word "Blockchain Technologies" and "Decentralization", that's because these words look attractive and innovative and you know, more likely people are interested with innovative things. In reality, at least to my mind there is no need of decentralized youtube and facebook analogues, there were many attempts of creating decentralized social platform but no one explained well what pros it had and why would someone choose that over facebook or twitter for example.
Can 100% say the same on youtube, it can't be decentralized because someone has to manage content there, for example someone may upload movie that is against copyrights and it's not acceptable, such content needs to be removed. There are still a lot of examples to mention there.
Can 100% say the same on youtube, it can't be decentralized because someone has to manage content there, for example someone may upload movie that is against copyrights and it's not acceptable, such content needs to be removed. There are still a lot of examples to mention there.
December 12, 2019, 03:12:55 PM
These two social media platforms can never be decentralized because of it popularity and because they never started out in that part.
The only thing that can make them to consider or take up that part is if there is a huge competitor that is decentralized that is capable of sweeping them off guard, aside that I don't see it leading that part.
The only thing that can make them to consider or take up that part is if there is a huge competitor that is decentralized that is capable of sweeping them off guard, aside that I don't see it leading that part.
December 12, 2019, 02:51:44 PM
In order to decentralize youtube you need to have a datacenter that is fragments of the data all shared by the people which combined becomes a video. Or some other method I can't think of, I mean think about it if you have a facebook type of thing that is decentralized all you need to provide people a "wallet" that you can store information yourself and people will see it when they go to your "wallet" but when you do a youtube type of video thing you need everyone to be able to suggest stuff like youtubes recommendations and trends and what not, your facebook message doesn't become a trending topic, but youtube video does.
But making youtube a decentralized platform would just be like the early stages of decentralized video streams today, no users and no income. And by that how are they going to handle their users? If no one's in control, how about the content creators and their content and materials? No on will manage it? I cannot imagine myself using a decentralized platform of social media.I feel like a decentralized social media like twitter is quite possible but the more complicated it gets the harder it is for people to decentralize it.
December 12, 2019, 02:33:09 PM
https://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-wants-to-create-a-decentralized-standard-for-social-media/
Jack Dorsey himself has now kicked a plan into action regarding this, though it doesn't quite fit the remit completely. As noted in a tweet in that article it seems like it's more like Twitter releasing an Android-esque system and then setting it free and seeing what happens.
It would be interesting to see what a fully free for all version of the big platforms would look like. My guess is that they would be totally intolerable.
Jack Dorsey himself has now kicked a plan into action regarding this, though it doesn't quite fit the remit completely. As noted in a tweet in that article it seems like it's more like Twitter releasing an Android-esque system and then setting it free and seeing what happens.
It would be interesting to see what a fully free for all version of the big platforms would look like. My guess is that they would be totally intolerable.
Just checked back this thread, thanks for this news which I haven't heard yet. I wonder how Bluesky will go through with this but I think it'll be "decentralized" more regarding the moderating, so Mastodon (which I only heard through this article) does seem right. Twitter will still call the shots what content gets posted and they'd still cancel people they don't agree with.
December 12, 2019, 12:25:36 PM
As long as big corporations handle these platforms, it's obvious that they will remain as is and will continue to do so until the end of these platforms' popularity. Though anyone can start their own decentralized platforms, the thing is most big names and people are invested and have their eyes fixed on these giants. Though there might be a few random groups of enthusiasts that cling on small hubs of unknown platforms, it still is not enough to defeat these giants on what they do, but at least they are alternatives.
December 12, 2019, 12:05:29 PM
In order to decentralize youtube you need to have a datacenter that is fragments of the data all shared by the people which combined becomes a video. Or some other method I can't think of, I mean think about it if you have a facebook type of thing that is decentralized all you need to provide people a "wallet" that you can store information yourself and people will see it when they go to your "wallet" but when you do a youtube type of video thing you need everyone to be able to suggest stuff like youtubes recommendations and trends and what not, your facebook message doesn't become a trending topic, but youtube video does.
I feel like a decentralized social media like twitter is quite possible but the more complicated it gets the harder it is for people to decentralize it.
I feel like a decentralized social media like twitter is quite possible but the more complicated it gets the harder it is for people to decentralize it.
December 12, 2019, 11:05:55 AM
https://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-wants-to-create-a-decentralized-standard-for-social-media/
Jack Dorsey himself has now kicked a plan into action regarding this, though it doesn't quite fit the remit completely. As noted in a tweet in that article it seems like it's more like Twitter releasing an Android-esque system and then setting it free and seeing what happens.
It would be interesting to see what a fully free for all version of the big platforms would look like. My guess is that they would be totally intolerable.
Jack Dorsey himself has now kicked a plan into action regarding this, though it doesn't quite fit the remit completely. As noted in a tweet in that article it seems like it's more like Twitter releasing an Android-esque system and then setting it free and seeing what happens.
It would be interesting to see what a fully free for all version of the big platforms would look like. My guess is that they would be totally intolerable.
December 12, 2019, 10:59:39 AM
We already have a product for people who want a decentralized Youtube, it's called Flixxo.
For the rest, you can stay on youtube, a platform that became pretty much what it was supposed to fight against, internet tv with mandatory ads and censorship
For the rest, you can stay on youtube, a platform that became pretty much what it was supposed to fight against, internet tv with mandatory ads and censorship
December 12, 2019, 08:53:02 AM
I can't imagine these platforms being decentralized. YouTube, for example, is focussing on their greatest and biggest content creators which is why they are earning a lot of money. If no one will be able to control the algorithm, I think it will be more chaotic for smaller content creators and that would totally destroy that platform.
December 12, 2019, 08:31:58 AM
Of course they could and there has already been a decentralized alternative for both of them. But the problem with decentralized platform is how to make it a safe place for different group of people and stop illegal contents and save copyright claims. Monitoring would be difficult and lengthy, if we speed up, there could be content war between different group of people, countries, political ideas and parties.
That is the challenge for decentralized platform. How they can manage the people. Because the people are the one that working to the system. There is no head, no chief who monitors the system.However, I think that these gigantic social platforms can handle that situation specially that they have the brightest and talented worker for their system.
December 12, 2019, 06:11:55 AM
they can still filter out published data systems on a regular basis.
it will still be centered and still must abide by the principle of geo-company. implementation will also be hampered by any policy reforms that do not benefit the public, their system has entered the commercial and strict domain with various censorship of freedom. Implementation of decentralization will not work perfectly.
it will still be centered and still must abide by the principle of geo-company. implementation will also be hampered by any policy reforms that do not benefit the public, their system has entered the commercial and strict domain with various censorship of freedom. Implementation of decentralization will not work perfectly.
December 12, 2019, 05:50:20 AM
Of course they could and there has already been a decentralized alternative for both of them. But the problem with decentralized platform is how to make it a safe place for different group of people and stop illegal contents and save copyright claims. Monitoring would be difficult and lengthy, if we speed up, there could be content war between different group of people, countries, political ideas and parties.
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