Well, your ignorance on the subject carries a certain reality of the gambler who somehow looks for an excuse to justify losses.
It is true that cheaters have existed, and will exist, there are cases so incredible that they are beyond fiction. There are very well documented cases.
In any case, betting on known events takes us away from this type of situation that is not exempt, but you must know that there are independent organizations in addition to the fact that the leagues or events themselves have permanent surveillance.
Topic: Can players bet on their own games (Read 788 times)
Players should not be allowed to make any kind of bets on own games. Because they can influence on results easily. They can influence by themselves, or talk someone to perform inappropriate. Why do players should think about placing bets at all? They should focus more on a game, instead of possibility to get some extra money.
They can easily manipulate the outcome of the game very easily if they bet, yes, moreover, if they bet to win their opponent, yes they can easily pretend to lose. Honestly, I don't really know about this, because maybe if there is, no one will know, even if it's the people closest to them, because it will endanger their own careers.
Things like this are also often heard in certain games, for example in football there is the term fixing the score, this is the same type. Even though they don't gamble directly, they also enjoy the money they receive from people who want them to do so.
Things like this are also often heard in certain games, for example in football there is the term fixing the score, this is the same type. Even though they don't gamble directly, they also enjoy the money they receive from people who want them to do so.
Maybe yes, what you say it could happen. but remember, in football, because in this case we associate it with football. a player who plays underperform, in this case he intentionally plays badly, own goals, or whatever it is just because his opponent wants to win and he wins the bet. however, the risks would be enormous. especially if they are professional athletes in big leagues. maybe the bad impact, the player will be suspended by the coach for playing badly or making a blunder. maybe also, the coach will punish him by making him a substitute player. that way, his career will be at stake.
So, I doubt that professional athletes, especially football players in European leagues, would do something like that. maybe, cases like what you said can happen for small leagues which incidentally don't have strict regulation with a bad system. in asia, especially asean there are many cases of match fixing. however, most of them do not only involve one player because these kinds of practices usually involve many parties.
IMO, in conclusion. if a professional athlete gambles, especially so that the team he stands for intentionally loses. then it is a loss for himself and for his career, whatever the sport.
I remember reading some stories about players betting on their own matches in the past, like 15 years ago and the league found out leading to a big scandal. In the end they lost everything, didn't get paid by the bookmakers and got banned from playing for 2 years leading to get dropped from their team. It just doesn't make any sense to risk losing our job for a one time payment which is not even guaranteed. Most sports are team games and one player will have trouble to influence the game in a major way. I would expect that if you take the risk to bet on your own matches that you are looking for a high payout, so betting on the winner of the match alone is not going to give a good return. It would be better to bet on at what time the goals are being made, or the exact number of goals. But even if you are in the match and can influence it yourself, there is still a lot of randomness in the game. Maybe some players will use close friends to bet on their own match, but even then there is the risk of it coming out and ruining everything is there. As a professional athlete I would expect that your interest and knowledge of the sports betting market is not so big.
You don't know how many times they did it before this disqualification, and how much they managed to win on it. They may have done this many times, even over several years, until they found out about it. And it doesn’t matter if it’s a team sport, here’s a simple example where just one person can benefit without anyone on the team knowing about it: he just bets that there will be a penalty in the match, and that’s enough. If he sees that there was no penalty before the end of the match, he may deliberately foul in his own penalty area in order for this event to occur.In addition, he does not have to make a bet himself, he can agree on this with a friend who will make bets in several bookmakers so that the amount of the bet is not very large. There is always an opportunity to do this, but in this case he need to understand that this is a crime that will most likely be solved sooner or later.
I remember reading some stories about players betting on their own matches in the past, like 15 years ago and the league found out leading to a big scandal. In the end they lost everything, didn't get paid by the bookmakers and got banned from playing for 2 years leading to get dropped from their team. It just doesn't make any sense to risk losing our job for a one time payment which is not even guaranteed. Most sports are team games and one player will have trouble to influence the game in a major way. I would expect that if you take the risk to bet on your own matches that you are looking for a high payout, so betting on the winner of the match alone is not going to give a good return. It would be better to bet on at what time the goals are being made, or the exact number of goals. But even if you are in the match and can influence it yourself, there is still a lot of randomness in the game. Maybe some players will use close friends to bet on their own match, but even then there is the risk of it coming out and ruining everything is there. As a professional athlete I would expect that your interest and knowledge of the sports betting market is not so big.
You don't know how many times they did it before this disqualification, and how much they managed to win on it. They may have done this many times, even over several years, until they found out about it. And it doesn’t matter if it’s a team sport, here’s a simple example where just one person can benefit without anyone on the team knowing about it: he just bets that there will be a penalty in the match, and that’s enough. If he sees that there was no penalty before the end of the match, he may deliberately foul in his own penalty area in order for this event to occur.In addition, he does not have to make a bet himself, he can agree on this with a friend who will make bets in several bookmakers so that the amount of the bet is not very large. There is always an opportunity to do this, but in this case he need to understand that this is a crime that will most likely be solved sooner or later.
Players are not allowed to do that, that is against the Fifa rules
And if a player or player's are found or caught they will be penalized hugely
Recently Ivan Toney england and Brentford player was linked to some news as this, any idea of how Fifa finally handled this
And if a player or player's are found or caught they will be penalized hugely
Recently Ivan Toney england and Brentford player was linked to some news as this, any idea of how Fifa finally handled this
But surely in small or unknown leagues there must be some people doing it. For example a goalkeeper of small devision league in Africa where some bookmakers cover betting on the match can create an account on it, if they ask for KYC verification can easily ask his friend or family member to do it for him. And can earn much money by letting his team lose. Fighters can manipulate that even more.
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
It's a red light if the family member of the player bets on his win or loss but most of the times, casino doesn't know whos brother or sister you are. Manipulation is possible but it's risky and I would even say that a lot of matches are sold in unknown leagues. In football, rugby and team matches, usually the club owners or people above players are the ones who sell the games, not players themselves. So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
Sure, there are a lot sports betting scandals and reward is amazing when you know the result of the game and bet on it but if you get caught, then you are in a huge trouble.
If this was a common problem, then casinos would go bankrupt but they don't go, so this is easily said than done.
Players cannot bet on their own games, but I'm sure their manager, coach, or someone else they know bets for that fighter because it's extra money if you win the fight, but I haven't seen or read anything about it because it's prohibited, so I'm sure they're doing it in secret. Also regarding having lost in their own game, it is sort of called "fixed games," about which we can see a lot of speculation but nothing that has proven it. This is really about money; they don't care about the game or the sports; they just want to win the teams they want because the money that was bet on it was very huge, so they will manipulate the game.
And the player can join those who bet for him to earn extra money from winning matches. This might be a great way to earn some extra money but they have to really keep it a secret from everyone else and after the win, they have to share the winnings in secret as well. This may have been common among players who use these methods to be able to bet on themselves but if this were to be found out, they would all be punished by the association so they could no longer play.Things like this are also often heard in certain games, for example in football there is the term fixing the score, this is the same type. Even though they don't gamble directly, they also enjoy the money they receive from people who want them to do so.
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
I remember reading some stories about players betting on their own matches in the past, like 15 years ago and the league found out leading to a big scandal. In the end they lost everything, didn't get paid by the bookmakers and got banned from playing for 2 years leading to get dropped from their team. It just doesn't make any sense to risk losing our job for a one time payment which is not even guaranteed. Most sports are team games and one player will have trouble to influence the game in a major way. I would expect that if you take the risk to bet on your own matches that you are looking for a high payout, so betting on the winner of the match alone is not going to give a good return. It would be better to bet on at what time the goals are being made, or the exact number of goals. But even if you are in the match and can influence it yourself, there is still a lot of randomness in the game. Maybe some players will use close friends to bet on their own match, but even then there is the risk of it coming out and ruining everything is there. As a professional athlete I would expect that your interest and knowledge of the sports betting market is not so big.
Professional athletes and sports players weren't allowed to bet on them or upon the game they play. This is done to have them self control, because once they start placing bets on them, it'll be the beginning to play for his/her favour. Finally his game game will be much based on personal financial gain which is not good while representing a team or a country. For this reason professional players weren't allowed to make bets, but these days there are chances of professionals making bets using the anonymous betting opportunities.
I understand how you can play "in your favour", well, not in your favour, but rather for you to win money, if you bet on your loss. And that is what I think should be strictly forbidden. But betting on your win, I wouldn't I wouldn't forbid it. I mean, every sportsman is betting on his/her win in a way, even they don't bet money on that, right?
I see some loopholes when a player decides to bet on himself. If he is betting that's he's going to win that will be accepted but when a player decides to bet that he's going to loss I'm not sure if that should be accepted since he has the capability to control such a game in his favour since he had placed a bet that he's going to lose he might as well just let the opponent come out victorious so that he can win the bet.
If there's no loopholes for the players bet on their own games, any casino doesn't care with this and the @OP wouldn't create this thread. The player obviously can't bet his own game, but what do you think if the player ask his friend to bet the game or he use zero KYC bookie or even he use fake KYC account? there's no way to verify that and the player will make a lot money from it. But it usually happen on local or small tournament where the the prize isn't huge as he can get through gamble, I don't think a popular and high reputable player will do such dirty way to earn money. Remember, they can earn a lot money through promoting a popular brand.
Professional athletes and sports players weren't allowed to bet on them or upon the game they play. This is done to have them self control, because once they start placing bets on them, it'll be the beginning to play for his/her favour. Finally his game game will be much based on personal financial gain which is not good while representing a team or a country. For this reason professional players weren't allowed to make bets, but these days there are chances of professionals making bets using the anonymous betting opportunities.
I don't understand, I mean , why should an athlete or sportsman not be allowed to bet on the game they play? would love to know if this is officially called a professional crime. Before such a thing would be looked into I believe conditions should be involved. A sportsman should be allowed to bet only for himself and not against himself if they do so, they will be a burning desire to win, and if he wins, the team wins. So I don't really see the risks in looking at it this way.
I see some loopholes when a player decides to bet on himself. If he is betting that's he's going to win that will be accepted but when a player decides to bet that he's going to loss I'm not sure if that should be accepted since he has the capability to control such a game in his favour since he had placed a bet that he's going to lose he might as well just let the opponent come out victorious so that he can win the bet.
Unless he has placed a bet that he's going to win no other bet should be allowed so as to minimize the risk of some foul play been involved.
Professional athletes and sports players weren't allowed to bet on them or upon the game they play. This is done to have them self control, because once they start placing bets on them, it'll be the beginning to play for his/her favour. Finally his game game will be much based on personal financial gain which is not good while representing a team or a country. For this reason professional players weren't allowed to make bets, but these days there are chances of professionals making bets using the anonymous betting opportunities.
I don't understand, I mean , why should an athlete or sportsman not be allowed to bet on the game they play? would love to know if this is officially called a professional crime. Before such a thing would be looked into I believe conditions should be involved. A sportsman should be allowed to bet only for himself and not against himself if they do so, they will be a burning desire to win, and if he wins, the team wins. So I don't really see the risks in looking at it this way.
Professional athletes and sports players weren't allowed to bet on them or upon the game they play. This is done to have them self control, because once they start placing bets on them, it'll be the beginning to play for his/her favour. Finally his game game will be much based on personal financial gain which is not good while representing a team or a country. For this reason professional players weren't allowed to make bets, but these days there are chances of professionals making bets using the anonymous betting opportunities.
I don't understand, I mean , why should an athlete or sportsman not be allowed to bet on the game they play? would love to know if this is officially called a professional crime. Before such a thing would be looked into I believe conditions should be involved. A sportsman should be allowed to bet only for himself and not against himself if they do so, they will be a burning desire to win, and if he wins, the team wins. So I don't really see the risks in looking at it this way.
I’m curious to know if there’s any players (fighters,footballers….) who have been caught betting on themselves or on their own team to lose or win, i know it’s not allowed for any player as a part of their contract for example Ufc fighters are strictly forbidden from betting on their own fights. And the reason is pretty obvious since the player can easily manipulate the final score of whatever he is playing or fighting.
But surely in small or unknown leagues there must be some people doing it. For example a goalkeeper of small devision league in Africa where some bookmakers cover betting on the match can create an account on it, if they ask for KYC verification can easily ask his friend or family member to do it for him. And can earn much money by letting his team lose. Fighters can manipulate that even more.
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
But surely in small or unknown leagues there must be some people doing it. For example a goalkeeper of small devision league in Africa where some bookmakers cover betting on the match can create an account on it, if they ask for KYC verification can easily ask his friend or family member to do it for him. And can earn much money by letting his team lose. Fighters can manipulate that even more.
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
As we all know that these days the online betting is anonymous and we never know who is the person behind the betting. So even if the players are not allowed to bet they can still bet before the start of the match on any online batting site and no one will know that they have placed a bet on the win or loss of the match.
The question arises why players are not allowed to bet, well the answer is simple. Player can easily bet on the loss of a match and then play badly to lose a match in order to win that bet. This comes under match fixing.
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If the player is allowed to bet for themselves surely will not throw their game, they will even try to perform their best because it has a double reward, the ranking, and the winning while on the contrary, if the player is allowed to bet on the opposing team or opponent, then this will only mean that the player might throw his game.
I believe that professional athletes are originally not allowed to bet either for themselves or their opponent because often times this kind of thing if allowed gives negative impact to the game performance of a player but somehow there are cases where players are allowed to bet on other games not affiliated with them.
Yes, they can bet on other sports. I believe that professional athletes are originally not allowed to bet either for themselves or their opponent because often times this kind of thing if allowed gives negative impact to the game performance of a player but somehow there are cases where players are allowed to bet on other games not affiliated with them.
I like the idea though of letting them bet for themselves, it gives more adrenaline to the player/fighter to win the game/fight at any cost thinking there is also their money on the line.
But either that is not allowed by most of the sports industry organizations. Perhaps there should be revisions that could happen in the future as the gambling industry is getting bigger with easy-to-access online gambling sites.
Well, as good as this sounds, it is still very unfortunately that it has not stopped games from being rigged, maybe game rigging is not as possible in football and some other games, but I know that rigging is popular on games like tennis, boxing , as well as NFC.
The rule not allowing players or their close relatives to bet on their game is good, it indeed has helped to cub what would have been a disaster for many matches, because rigging would have been on the high side, but then, we can not say that rigging has been completely wiped out.
If the player is allowed to bet for themselves surely will not throw their game, they will even try to perform their best because it has a double reward, the ranking, and the winning while on the contrary, if the player is allowed to bet on the opposing team or opponent, then this will only mean that the player might throw his game.
I believe that professional athletes are originally not allowed to bet either for themselves or their opponent because often times this kind of thing if allowed gives negative impact to the game performance of a player but somehow there are cases where players are allowed to bet on other games not affiliated with them.
Yes, they can bet on other sports. I believe that professional athletes are originally not allowed to bet either for themselves or their opponent because often times this kind of thing if allowed gives negative impact to the game performance of a player but somehow there are cases where players are allowed to bet on other games not affiliated with them.
I like the idea though of letting them bet for themselves, it gives more adrenaline to the player/fighter to win the game/fight at any cost thinking there is also their money on the line.
But either that is not allowed by most of the sports industry organizations. Perhaps there should be revisions that could happen in the future as the gambling industry is getting bigger with easy-to-access online gambling sites.
If the player is allowed to bet for themselves surely will not throw their game, they will even try to perform their best because it has a double reward, the ranking, and the winning while on the contrary, if the player is allowed to bet on the opposing team or opponent, then this will only mean that the player might throw his game.
I believe that professional athletes are originally not allowed to bet either for themselves or their opponent because often times this kind of thing if allowed gives negative impact to the game performance of a player but somehow there are cases where players are allowed to bet on other games not affiliated with them.
Yes, they can bet on other sports. I believe that professional athletes are originally not allowed to bet either for themselves or their opponent because often times this kind of thing if allowed gives negative impact to the game performance of a player but somehow there are cases where players are allowed to bet on other games not affiliated with them.
I like the idea though of letting them bet for themselves, it gives more adrenaline to the player/fighter to win the game/fight at any cost thinking there is also their money on the line.
But either that is not allowed by most of the sports industry organizations. Perhaps there should be revisions that could happen in the future as the gambling industry is getting bigger with easy-to-access online gambling sites.
Professional athletes and sports players weren't allowed to bet on them or upon the game they play. This is done to have them self control, because once they start placing bets on them, it'll be the beginning to play for his/her favour. Finally his game game will be much based on personal financial gain which is not good while representing a team or a country. For this reason professional players weren't allowed to make bets, but these days there are chances of professionals making bets using the anonymous betting opportunities.
I think you mean the other way around. Professional athletes, if allowed to bet on themselves, would likely throw the match and let the opposing team take the win for easy profits. This is way easier to do and less effort involved too because they just have to play bad in order to get some payday for their pockets. Professional athletes sans betting is highly motivated by their desire to be at the top of the sport, with prize money coming in as the second motivator. If money is easy to get on professional sports, do you think athletes who like to throw games will still exist? I think not.
If the player is allowed to bet for themselves surely will not throw their game, they will even try to perform their best because it has a double reward, the ranking, and the winning while on the contrary, if the player is allowed to bet on the opposing team or opponent, then this will only mean that the player might throw his game.
I believe that professional athletes are originally not allowed to bet either for themselves or their opponent because often times this kind of thing if allowed gives negative impact to the game performance of a player but somehow there are cases where players are allowed to bet on other games not affiliated with them.
Professional athletes and sports players weren't allowed to bet on them or upon the game they play. This is done to have them self control, because once they start placing bets on them, it'll be the beginning to play for his/her favour. Finally his game game will be much based on personal financial gain which is not good while representing a team or a country. For this reason professional players weren't allowed to make bets, but these days there are chances of professionals making bets using the anonymous betting opportunities.
I think you mean the other way around. Professional athletes, if allowed to bet on themselves, would likely throw the match and let the opposing team take the win for easy profits. This is way easier to do and less effort involved too because they just have to play bad in order to get some payday for their pockets. Professional athletes sans betting is highly motivated by their desire to be at the top of the sport, with prize money coming in as the second motivator. If money is easy to get on professional sports, do you think athletes who like to throw games will still exist? I think not.
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