In reality they can't but...
In my country we had one very special case when one very influential media owner send his wife to psychiatric hospital because she wanted to divorce from him and take their child with her.
He proclaim that she is crazy and call doctors and also police as support, in order to bring her by force to medical institution.
All media in the country reported about it and eventually, because of public pressure, she was released from hospital.
Topic: Can police take you to the psychiatric hospital with no probable cause? (Read 1584 times)
March 19, 2016, 07:16:18 AM
March 19, 2016, 07:12:09 AM
Police can do whatever they want, whatever they can get away with. But they better have probable cause, and it better be good. If it isn't good enough, the city will be paying - the city taxpayers will be paying.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
Welp, no probable cause here! I feel so bad for her! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
And my $300!
Ya I guess they are the law
March 19, 2016, 07:08:46 AM
Police can do whatever they want, whatever they can get away with. But they better have probable cause, and it better be good. If it isn't good enough, the city will be paying - the city taxpayers will be paying.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
Well in my country the police are even afraid to shoot down because they'd gonna be sued and others for killing, unlike the US that once you didn't listen to some restraint orders then they will shoot and the plice would just make his statement and thats it
March 18, 2016, 08:43:47 PM
Police can do whatever they want, whatever they can get away with. But they better have probable cause, and it better be good. If it isn't good enough, the city will be paying - the city taxpayers will be paying.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
Welp, no probable cause here! I feel so bad for her! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
And my $300!
March 18, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
I believe someone might have observed her from time to time so they can get basis and report it to the police? Cause i don't think the police would just barge in to some people's house without authorization.
No. I actually found out she was telling the truth. The documents were in my hand for about 19 minutes and I got to read them actually. There was no probable cause in this scene. She was confirmed by police in her bedroom with headphones on. Also was confirmed by the hospital that she was handcuffed when she came in .
March 18, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
Police can do whatever they want, whatever they can get away with. But they better have probable cause, and it better be good. If it isn't good enough, the city will be paying - the city taxpayers will be paying.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14204384
March 18, 2016, 04:23:07 AM
I believe someone might have observed her from time to time so they can get basis and report it to the police? Cause i don't think the police would just barge in to some people's house without authorization.
No. I actually found out she was telling the truth. The documents were in my hand for about 19 minutes and I got to read them actually. There was no probable cause in this scene. She was confirmed by police in her bedroom with headphones on. Also was confirmed by the hospital that she was handcuffed when she came in .
March 18, 2016, 04:20:15 AM
"Probable cause" is whatever the police say it is. That's not proof, that's someones word/opinion. So its 3 years old... and? Do the laws change every fucking year? Also that's a lawyer's website not some "organization website". I don't think he would be in business long posting inaccurate legal information. Additionally either you don't know how to read or you didn't read it because the info is there. If you don't like what I linked you can do your own research you lazy fuck. You aren't bothering to read what I am posting anyway.
If you're going to talk to people like that, nobody is going to take anything you say seriously. See yourself out of my threads, please. Good day.
March 18, 2016, 03:49:46 AM
I believe someone might have observed her from time to time so they can get basis and report it to the police? Cause i don't think the police would just barge in to some people's house without authorization.
March 18, 2016, 12:46:36 AM
"Probable cause" is whatever the police say it is. That's not proof, that's someones word/opinion. So its 3 years old... and? Do the laws change every fucking year? Also that's a lawyer's website not some "organization website". I don't think he would be in business long posting inaccurate legal information. Additionally either you don't know how to read or you didn't read it because the info is there. If you don't like what I linked you can do your own research you lazy fuck. You aren't bothering to read what I am posting anyway.
March 17, 2016, 07:47:34 PM
Also @techshare, that thread you researched was made more than 3 years ago. Not only that, it's not an organization website at all. I need a government issued website that is up to date.
Also, it doesn't even say anything on what rights you have. It's not related at all. Did you read the entire post?
Also, it doesn't even say anything on what rights you have. It's not related at all. Did you read the entire post?
March 17, 2016, 05:44:27 PM
is she going mad?
Seem very unlikely but lets say she's telling the truth, she could file an abduction case for that as far as i know. Even if her parents give permission or invitation, it doesn't count since she was being forced.
Seem very unlikely but lets say she's telling the truth, she could file an abduction case for that as far as i know. Even if her parents give permission or invitation, it doesn't count since she was being forced.
Wrong. I wish you were right but you aren't.
This is specific to the state of Maine (just because it came up first in the search results) but the law varies slightly from state to state. In most cases it is basically the same. Anyone can be involuntarily admitted by police or family, some times anyone.
https://www1.maine.gov/dhhs/samhs/mentalhealth/rights-legal/involuntary/faq/home.html
Also, I don't really think they can take anybody without probable cause, consent (because she's over the legal age) and also just no evidence or reason at all. She was in her bedroom, minding her own business and was being questioned about a situation that didn't even have anything to do with her. Makes no sense. Sure she didn't cooperate with the police, but if police gain access to you behind your locked bedroom door, I'd say that's crossing some boundaries.
Well sorry but I am not psychic, I don't know which state you are referring to. I did however explain the process is similar in almost every state. Police can in fact involuntarily commit you in New Jersey. Considering I am the only person so far to provide you with factual information on the subject I am surprised you don't bother reading what I post completely before dismissing it.
http://www.shapiro-croland.com/blog/families-in-new-jersey
I did research of my own as well. Police have to have one or all of the following in order to take you into their custody:
* Probable cause
* Court appointed demand/ warrant
If you're sitting in your bedroom behind a locked door listening to music and then suddenly you get invaded and asked about things that have nothing to do with you and you exercise your right to remain silent and refuse to participate, that doesn't give probable cause that you're mentally ill.
March 17, 2016, 05:25:22 PM
is she going mad?
Seem very unlikely but lets say she's telling the truth, she could file an abduction case for that as far as i know. Even if her parents give permission or invitation, it doesn't count since she was being forced.
Seem very unlikely but lets say she's telling the truth, she could file an abduction case for that as far as i know. Even if her parents give permission or invitation, it doesn't count since she was being forced.
Wrong. I wish you were right but you aren't.
This is specific to the state of Maine (just because it came up first in the search results) but the law varies slightly from state to state. In most cases it is basically the same. Anyone can be involuntarily admitted by police or family, some times anyone.
https://www1.maine.gov/dhhs/samhs/mentalhealth/rights-legal/involuntary/faq/home.html
Also, I don't really think they can take anybody without probable cause, consent (because she's over the legal age) and also just no evidence or reason at all. She was in her bedroom, minding her own business and was being questioned about a situation that didn't even have anything to do with her. Makes no sense. Sure she didn't cooperate with the police, but if police gain access to you behind your locked bedroom door, I'd say that's crossing some boundaries.
Well sorry but I am not psychic, I don't know which state you are referring to. I did however explain the process is similar in almost every state. Police can in fact involuntarily commit you in New Jersey. Considering I am the only person so far to provide you with factual information on the subject I am surprised you don't bother reading what I post completely before dismissing it.
http://www.shapiro-croland.com/blog/families-in-new-jersey
March 17, 2016, 05:07:02 PM
Ofcourse they can, if you are a crazy satanist freemason nutter you can be dangerous for others. (e.g. murder of Black Dahlia).
Yeah, I mean, if she was in her bedroom doing nothing, then I guess that qualifies as probable cause, huh?How old are you?
March 17, 2016, 04:52:40 PM
Bad news everyone: she was telling the truth. You're probably wondering why that's bad news. Well, I made a bet with her boyfriend that she was lying and that if indeed she is, you gotta pay me 300 worth of CAD
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RIP money.
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RIP money.
March 17, 2016, 02:07:24 PM
Ofcourse they can, if you are a crazy satanist freemason nutter you can be dangerous for others. (e.g. murder of Black Dahlia).
March 17, 2016, 01:09:51 PM
There are no EU. There are different European countries. Every country has its own laws and its own culture.
March 17, 2016, 12:28:06 PM
Well in EU they can take you to a psychiatric hospital, but then your mental issue has to be confirmed by multiple doctors!
That's correct. But nobody can sue them if they they took you there for a good reason.
March 17, 2016, 11:34:08 AM
Probably irrelevant, but in many EU states the police have right to take someone to psychiatric hospital if they have a good reason to believe that because of his/her mental state that person can be dangerous for him/herself or for others. I guess this isn't much different in the States.
Well in EU they can take you to a psychiatric hospital, but then your mental issue has to be confirmed by multiple doctors!
March 17, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
Probably irrelevant, but in many EU states the police have right to take someone to psychiatric hospital if they have a good reason to believe that because of his/her mental state that person can be dangerous for him/herself or for others. I guess this isn't much different in the States.
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