Topic: Can police take you to the psychiatric hospital with no probable cause? - page 2. (Read 1584 times)

It depends. In a military junta like US probably, yes. In a democratic country no. In my country we kick the ass of the cops.

What were they questioning her about for her to say no comment.Need to know before I can help you.Did her parents call the cops?. And if they did why
Police don't turn up without a reason..They must of said were here because of blah blah blah.

Perhaps a financial adviser as well? I've been meaning to take care of two problems.


1 is the money from a lawsuit I had about a year ago in which I sued an employer for uncivil discrimination. I won but the money is taking too long to be paid to me and I have no idea what I'm going to do as I have bills that need to be paid.


Also, my friend's girlfriend just said her personal bedroom was intruded by police, and wants just a few minutes to talk to somebody for free on advice of what she should do. I tried googling places for free consultation but it seems like they're all indeed not free at all so I don't know on what to do about her situation

go to your solicitor to file for a debt collection no other way unless you send the mob
the courts have ruled in your favour and he is breaking is promise to the court.
If he as said he is bankrupt and he as filed for it then you get nothing

And you girlfriends problem sue for wrongful arrest and the stress it caused her..
Remember her parents let the police in so no forced entry. But she still need a lawyer no matter what happens.

But are you sure your friends not coo koo

Oh and last point..I got no money before you try that old chest nut 

That's in MAINE. This happened in New Jersey.



Also, I don't really think they can take anybody without probable cause, consent (because she's over the legal age) and also just no evidence or reason at all. She was in her bedroom, minding her own business and was being questioned about a situation that didn't even have anything to do with her. Makes no sense. Sure she didn't cooperate with the police, but if police gain access to you behind your locked bedroom door, I'd say that's crossing some boundaries.

I think she is too.


She told me a domestic violence problem between her parents was happening downstairs and the police wanted to talk to her about it.


Very odd, as it has nothing to do with her. There has got to be something she's leaving out. This is so bizarre....



I don't know. I asked her to get some documents from the hospital that she went to and we can go review the paperwork. If she's telling the absolute truth, I'll let you all know.

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I just tried showing that there is worse than what she lived.

I am having a hard time even following what you are trying to argue. Your point seems completely unrelated to this thread.

Easy!
Imagine that man was jogging in street with his sweatsuits and earphones. An ordinary day. But no... Police wants to stop him.
Calls him to stop... But he has earphones and doesn't hear. Continues running. Police takes his gun and shoots him from his behind.
Comparise now. Which is worse?.

There is no "investigation" as you describe it. The person is evaluated by a psychiatrist. That is the only double checking happening. There are no penalties for the person reporting if the claim was false. Possibly if they do it more than once you could sue them or charge them for harassment but that's about it.

for sure, this can happen if you live in a police states . . but it must be investigated whether she said the truth or not.. and what reason made her father call the police ? i think she is hiding the true story..

Wrong. I wish you were right but you aren't.

This is specific to the state of Maine (just because it came up first in the search results) but the law varies slightly from state to state. In most cases it is basically the same. Anyone can be involuntarily admitted by police or family, some times anyone.

https://www1.maine.gov/dhhs/samhs/mentalhealth/rights-legal/involuntary/faq/home.html

is she going mad?
Seem very unlikely but lets say she's telling the truth, she could file an abduction case for that as far as i know. Even if her parents give permission or invitation, it doesn't count since she was being forced.

Yes, the police can involuntarily commit you without any evidence. It is more common (and easier) for family members to do this though. Your family can most certainly have you committed. If she is having difficulty with her parents and doesn't actually need medical treatment she needs to get out of their house otherwise this will probably happen again and she might not get let out next time.

They take involuntary drafts into consideration and send the bills to some sort of welfare, which I believe is called "Medicaid'.

You can also expect the hospital to bill you $1,000/day... not that I would know anything about being locked in a psych ward  

Just got her phone number. Okay, I suppose I'll be questioning her more on the matter, since she's asking me for advice and asking me to give input. I'm not even sure why I'm entertaining this situation but there is a part of me that thinks she wouldn't lie about this. If she did and she took this to court, she'd definitely be in severe trouble.


I just don't know.


Please stay tuned for more information if I can provide it everyone. Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate it if anyone can, and will be of some verbal assistance.


Be sure to give input on what I should do with my finance issue regarding a lawsuit.


Edit: never mind. I just spoke to a legal finance office. I was approved.  

...And you're asking people on bitcointalk for this kind of advice?

Don't know about "probable cause" but you can get a physician's certificate if someone is deemed a danger to themselves or others and yes the cops can take you to the hospital against your will.  Any more than that, consult a lawyer.

For the record everyone, I do not actually believe her story as it is very odd for the police to accept a key to her bedroom door to enter her room and question her about a situation that had nothing to do with her. It's very, very odd. If this is in fact true, I definitely want to look into it and see if I can assist her. If she is indeed telling the truth and the hospital confirms this, I wanna find out if compensation is within her reach.

Ah sorry my bad, but either way, the hospital would be your best bet, CCTV footage of the entrance and the parking area would stack some evidence up against the police if they were doing something genuinely illegal.

I don't know. I guess this is all she is telling me. I just texted her boyfriend, (who is my close friend). He texted her, and he just said to me that she said that when she got to the psychiatric hospital, they told her that there was a domestic violence scene of some sort happening downstairs and the police wanted to question her about it. Again, very odd, as it had nothing to do with her.





(Also, she's not my girlfriend. It's my friend's girlfriend.


I have a fiancé. This girl and I have never dated.)