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legendary
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November 14, 2022, 05:18:56 PM
#67
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?
From my experience, anything offline game, roulette plus a host of others, can be rigged, even the online version of this games are sometimes rigged, except the casino be one that has a truly functional provable fair system in place.

Sorry about your loss by the way, maybe this will help you learn better not to revenge losses next time, even if you must do it, then maybe it did be wise to do it in another casino instead of returning to the same casino.

This is why in offline casinos, there is never a favorite place, except when you find a place you truly trust that their games are fair enough.
hero member
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November 14, 2022, 05:13:29 PM
#66
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

I've seen movies and documentaries about rigging physical roulette so it's possible that they are rigging it, but not all roulette is rigged there are casinos that are under government supervision and they show transparency to their betting public, but on private casinos there is a possibility that there is, we have no way of knowing unless we have trained to see it or have watched a documentary on how they rigged a roulette, but of course, they make sure that they produce winners or else there will arise suspicion on their roulette.
legendary
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November 14, 2022, 05:12:14 PM
#65
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

It can be rigged, there are two given method stated in this article that can rig a roullete.

Ball tripping this is intentionally dislodging the ball from the track prematurely to make the ball settle on the desired spot [1]

The other one is by rigging the wheel mechanically by placing or using small blocking pin. [1]

There is no way that an offline casino does have completely rigged roulette games, but sometimes an experienced croupier can be able to bring the roulette game under his control.

If you spend all day working on something and dwell on one thing all day, you will get a better idea of how it is manipulated. As a result, experienced croupiers are able to throw the ball with about 99% accuracy during the course of the game.

Anyway, I talked about physical casinos. Due to the fact that online casinos have different algorithms, it is unlikely that they are rigged as long as there are enough players live on the board.

i can agree that there's a chance that a physical roulette game can be rigged as already pointed above. however, when it comes to online roulette, hard to rig this one, unless, they will put something on its code. the casino has already house edge so i don't think they will still think of rigging the game online.
but to answer the OP's question, i believe, roulette in physical casinos can somehow be rigged. they sometimes called it ball tripping.
legendary
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November 14, 2022, 04:56:53 PM
#64
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

It can be rigged, there are two given method stated in this article that can rig a roullete.

Ball tripping this is intentionally dislodging the ball from the track prematurely to make the ball settle on the desired spot [1]

The other one is by rigging the wheel mechanically by placing or using small blocking pin. [1]

There is no way that an offline casino does have completely rigged roulette games, but sometimes an experienced croupier can be able to bring the roulette game under his control.

If you spend all day working on something and dwell on one thing all day, you will get a better idea of how it is manipulated. As a result, experienced croupiers are able to throw the ball with about 99% accuracy during the course of the game.

Anyway, I talked about physical casinos. Due to the fact that online casinos have different algorithms, it is unlikely that they are rigged as long as there are enough players live on the board.
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November 14, 2022, 04:30:12 PM
#63
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

It can be rigged, there are two given method stated in this article that can rig a roullete.

Ball tripping this is intentionally dislodging the ball from the track prematurely to make the ball settle on the desired spot [1]

The other one is by rigging the wheel mechanically by placing or using small blocking pin. [1]




[1] https://www.casinonewsdaily.com/roulette-guide/rig-roulette-wheel/
legendary
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November 14, 2022, 04:15:52 PM
#62
I've watched too much Hollywood movies to know that it is somewhat possible, although of course people would probably notice before the casino can make a lot money. Some tricks include magnets, table level, subtle sleight of hand tricks etc. Of course, only a casino daring enough can pull this off because just imagine the scandal it can cause. They can easily lose a lot of patrons just because they became too greedy rigging a game chance.
And that is the thing, a casino already has a huge advantage over the player not only due to the house edge, physical casinos also control the whole environment and everything is allocated in such a way to make you to gamble way more than what you wanted at the beginning of your gambling session, so if at some point someone discovered the games were rigged in their favor the scandal will be so big that I doubt such a casino will survive it, so I would expect this kind of behavior only in casinos which are not very successful.
legendary
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November 13, 2022, 09:54:34 AM
#61
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?
I may be wrong but I like to think that anything can be manipulated. From my many experience with tricksters and watching Live magic performances where tricks are involved, the more you look the less you actually see. It may not be a common thing, and not something easily done, but anything is possible.
There's a possibility that the operator can manipulate the roullete, it's their roulette unless there is a government inspector that will inspect the machine and give it a passing seal, the bettor will have no idea that it is rigged its better to bet on online casinos than on physical casinos because there are seeds that you can check if the bets are Provably fair.
legendary
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November 11, 2022, 06:28:45 PM
#60
I've watched too much Hollywood movies to know that it is somewhat possible, although of course people would probably notice before the casino can make a lot money. Some tricks include magnets, table level, subtle sleight of hand tricks etc. Of course, only a casino daring enough can pull this off because just imagine the scandal it can cause. They can easily lose a lot of patrons just because they became too greedy rigging a game chance.
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Dimon69
November 11, 2022, 06:20:02 PM
#59
Live casino can be rigged but no one can proved it unless you are working with them personally. But this kind of revelation will never be in public since live casino employee is protected by a NDA.

Roulette can be rigged using a magnetic pull on the ball or a flicker effect which makes the ball jump abnormally using some external forcw when landing on number with huge bet.  The problem on doing conspiracy against gambling provider was lacking of proof which will just make you a sore loser. Typically this kind of allegation is being ignored because there's someone winning that testify against you.
legendary
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November 11, 2022, 06:15:16 PM
#58
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Even if you spend hours writing down the numbers that fall out at the roulette wheel is not the fact that it will give any result because most likely in order to improve safety casino owners change their strategy to avoid falling under suspicion.

It seems to me that it is almost impossible to prove foul play at the roulette table. Therefore, after several losses I bypass this game of chance and I do not quite understand gamblers who play roulette.

Well the premise is that it can be rigged or at least someone will find biased machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeXMTq0ieWE

But when this come out or at least be known to casinos then, they are smart to change and move their machines to not give the chance of any individuals to take advantage of it.

There is always a first time and this family is very smart and exploit it to it's limit.
legendary
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November 11, 2022, 04:55:20 PM
#57
Of course, anything created by humans can be manipulated bro, including roulette in physical casinos.
It could be that it was indeed rigged but no one knows for sure if it was really rigged, because it's about gambling isn't it?
In fact it is very easy to tell if a gambling game like the roulette has been rigged, the only thing you need to do is to accumulate a large enough sample of results, this is probably the most time consuming part of the process, after it the only thing you need to do is to see how many times a number has appeared in the sample and how many times that number should have appeared, if the appearance of the numbers is within a range then you know the roulette has not been rigged, but if there is a huge discrepancy here then you know there is something wrong with the roulette and there is a high chance someone rigged it.
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November 11, 2022, 09:52:10 AM
#56
There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.

There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.

These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).


This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in

Of course, anything created by humans can be manipulated bro, including roulette in physical casinos.
It could be that it was indeed rigged but no one knows for sure if it was really rigged, because it's about gambling isn't it?
In gambling some people will definitely experience victory or even defeat. It's a common thing.
It's simple if you lose and you are not comfortable with the game then switch to another game that makes you enjoy the game.
Obviously you are not comfortable playing at that casino, maybe you should try visiting another casino and try other luck that makes you comfortable.
If you keep thinking you are always being cheated on, then you will spend your time worrying all the time, right?
Of course, a game of roulette can be rigged with precision. There is hardly any technology used nowadays that hackers cannot invade. Those who work in the casino know this and am sure games can be rigged for persons who have won too much or too less. It is however highly unlikely for this to be a common phenomenon due to the presence of cameras, security personnel and prying eyes who would notice due to experience.
It is always better to play firstly for fun before winnings, so as to not be greedy when engrosses in the game.
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November 11, 2022, 09:32:40 AM
#55
There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.

There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.

These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).


This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in

Of course, anything created by humans can be manipulated bro, including roulette in physical casinos.
It could be that it was indeed rigged but no one knows for sure if it was really rigged, because it's about gambling isn't it?
In gambling some people will definitely experience victory or even defeat. It's a common thing.
It's simple if you lose and you are not comfortable with the game then switch to another game that makes you enjoy the game.
Obviously you are not comfortable playing at that casino, maybe you should try visiting another casino and try other luck that makes you comfortable.
If you keep thinking you are always being cheated on, then you will spend your time worrying all the time, right?
legendary
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November 10, 2022, 01:58:37 AM
#54
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

A good croupier can hit a certain sector, maybe even the number he wants, but only sometimes... when they have a good day and "lucky hands". It's not something every croupier can do, and those who can have their good & bad days.

Although it's possible to rig a live roullete, you shouldn't jump to a final conclusion without further evidence. It can be that the house was cheating, but it can also be that you were just unlucky, what should be expected on long term anyway, since the house has a slight advantage on every games against gamblers.

Well, apart from what several of us have explained to the OP, he is so dumb that he can't blame anything on himself and thinks that if he loses at roulette he is rigged. When in reality, a defective physical roulette wheel can give an advantage to the player who knows how to take advantage of that defect:

The clan that ruled the roulette wheel
The Pelayo family's almost-infallible gambling method won them over 1.5 million euros Their incredible story is now being brought to the big screen


OP was unlucky or his style of playing (and his strategy) is simply wrong. Whatever it is, he should rethink what went wrong before start blaming others for his loses.

Interesting story about the Pelayo family, I started reading and it seems interesting. I found the movie "The Pelayos - Winning Streak", I don't remember watching it...
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November 09, 2022, 11:59:52 PM
#53
Although it's possible to rig a live roullete, you shouldn't jump to a final conclusion without further evidence. It can be that the house was cheating, but it can also be that you were just unlucky, what should be expected on long term anyway, since the house has a slight advantage on every games against gamblers.

Well, apart from what several of us have explained to the OP, he is so dumb that he can't blame anything on himself and thinks that if he loses at roulette he is rigged. When in reality, a defective physical roulette wheel can give an advantage to the player who knows how to take advantage of that defect:

The clan that ruled the roulette wheel
The Pelayo family's almost-infallible gambling method won them over 1.5 million euros Their incredible story is now being brought to the big screen
hero member
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November 09, 2022, 09:10:51 PM
#52
This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
Although it's possible to rig a live roullete, you shouldn't jump to a final conclusion without further evidence. It can be that the house was cheating, but it can also be that you were just unlucky, what should be expected on long term anyway, since the house has a slight advantage on every games against gamblers. The important is to never lose control and bet money you can't afford to lose for vengeance reasons, otherwise you are going to be the main prejudiced in the end. Play for entertainment, and if you are concerned and suspecting a casino in particular, don't play there. There are many other alternatives around.
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November 09, 2022, 08:08:14 PM
#51
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

the best strategy to avoid this problem is to follow the games in advance to try to find any abnormal patterns (intentional addiction caused in roulette).
The second is to bet on random numbers....don't get stuck on a certain number for too many rounds, adopt a smart gaming strategy. If necessary, bet on the "hot numbers".... the ones that were drawn the most in the previous rounds.

lastly... always be wary of games that have little reputation.
legendary
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November 09, 2022, 08:04:45 PM
#50
Roulette is one of my favorite games and I guess I might always give whatever casino I’m playing at a little more credit than perhaps I should but I always just assume if they are professionally/legally licenses then their games must be “up to code” and therefore not “rigged” but really who knows.  That’s probably a foolish way to look at it.

One thing I don’t do is play roulette online, just doesn’t have the same feel to me.
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November 09, 2022, 04:56:55 PM
#49
I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

If you're talking about gambling over the internet, anything can be rigged.  In fact, a lot of new casinos pop up with deposit bonuses just to get your funds and then either you cannot withdraw or you're subjected to playing games that will make you a loser every time.  I would urge you to look into transparent and provably honest casino games if you feel like it's a possibility that you are being cheated.  Where there's smoke there's fire as they say and if you're getting a bad feeling from the site you're choosing to gamble on, either research and make sure that it's legitimate or find a new site that you feel is honest.


In internet i play only kn providers like eundorphina (live games) it can never be rigged they get only comission from house edge and integrate on 100 casinos.

If i ever wany to bet all money on a roullete it would be online and not on a real physical casino.

Also not self made games by online casinos. Alwaus check for enorphina and similar providers with no interst to make anything rigged.
legendary
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November 09, 2022, 04:51:26 PM
#48
You're not the only one who has thought about this. For decades, people have been inventing a strategy to beat roulette. The answer is that you can't beat roulette, there is no guaranteed winning strategy. There are strategies such as the MartinGale system, but that too can go horribly wrong and then you end up bankrupt if things go wrong. Roulette is pure gambling and luck.
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