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Quote from: madnessteat on November 08, 2022, 02:08:24 PM

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Why need to prove it? just avoid it.

If people want a game without any cheated, from my perspective "POKER" is the answer. You're playing against other player not the house, and the house only provided you a table for all-player without any taken fee.

POKER is the game without being rigged.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 09:41:46 PM

I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

Yes, of course, an experienced croupier can influence the outcome of a roulette game.

An experienced croupier can throw the ball into the desired sector of the roulette with amazing accuracy. Hit accuracy is about 2 sectors. Also, casinos often use balls of different weights, balls with a displaced center of gravity, etc. These are well-known tricks.

Experienced offline casino players sometimes set up group round-the-clock monitoring of one or another croupier in order to fix patterns in the launch of the ball. By setting up such a pattern, you can secure a big win.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 09:41:46 PM

I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

You can't be sure of anything other than what you create yourself, if the institution values its reputation, then they will not resort to illegal ways to cheat, and so there was even a case when a croupier with accomplices used a radio-controlled ball back in 1973, it's hard to imagine what is possible in our time.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on November 08, 2022, 01:42:29 PM

Go to youtube and you will know.

Even "card-game" with the information around 6-8 deck we don't know is the card are fully completed or not. But from my perspective, rouelte can be rigged comparing to other game because we don't know inside the wheel

+ with a video from youtube about how rigged is rouelete can be control.

Yes, there are a lot of videos on Youtube about how they can cheat when playing roulette, but that even if you're sure that you're being cheated it will be quite problematic to prove it.

To be honest I don't understand gamblers who bet on a certain number because the probability of winning is negligible (even if the casino plays fair). I'd rather play slots or dice.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 09:41:46 PM

I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

Yes, it can be rigged.
A roulette is not more than a mechanical device and it is supposed to be random according some some variables, like the angular momentum and the friction between the wheel and its surroundings. However, there are mechanisms which could be implemented in a concealed way to increase the chances to get an specific number or color.

They could increase the friction in specific section of the shaft and even make use of weak magnets to attract the ball or marker.
There are no boundaries when it is about getting new ways to scam people in front of their eyes.

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Go to youtube and you will know.

Even "card-game" with the information around 6-8 deck we don't know is the card are fully completed or not. But from my perspective, rouelte can be rigged comparing to other game because we don't know inside the wheel

+ with a video from youtube about how rigged is rouelete can be control.

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casinos can find a way to have a mathematical advantage but there is no way to get the roulette rigged without someone noticing. And in fact that is what casinos do with every game. they try to get the advantage to have a profit.

You can learn more about how casinos work the roulette game out here: https://www.casinonewsdaily.com/roulette-guide/rig-roulette-wheel/

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 08, 2022, 09:06:49 AM

Of course Roullete can be rigged but I doubt an outsider can do that without being caught. Only the croupier could successfully rig the game in their own way because they know the tricks or table very well.
We all know the casino wants you to always lose no matter how much they let one win, so it is best to just enjoy the thrills of the moment with cash you can lose and time you sure can let go. Otherwise, the thought of winning if it was played like so and not like so , might hunt one for a long time.

That's why the odds are always favoring the casino, they didn't even need to rig the wheel considering that the 0 and 00 will already be making money for them. But croupiers can do it with incentives from casinos is possible.

The thing is that if you caught a casino rigging, you can't do anything about it even if you report it to the police. But if we players get caught, you'd be punished.

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Of course Roullete can be rigged but I doubt an outsider can do that without being caught. Only the croupier could successfully rig the game in their own way because they know the tricks or table very well.
We all know the casino wants you to always lose no matter how much they let one win, so it is best to just enjoy the thrills of the moment with cash you can lose and time you sure can let go. Otherwise, the thought of winning if it was played like so and not like so , might hunt one for a long time.

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I don't believe it can be "rigged" in the sense that it has to be because the games are designed to make the house money over the long run, so they don't have to be. However, if you're going to gamble, be sure you know what you're going to wager on and how much you're willing to lose before you start. Never play a game for more than 30 minutes to an hour while hoping to get lucky. It never occurs. Most importantly, when things get tough, know when to call it quits.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 11:18:14 PM

Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me

I feel like you have to grow up and read a bit more.
While there's always the chance some games are rigged here and there, you seem to completely ignore the math that tells that the casino has always better chances than you on long term.
As I said from start: keep it at fun level (and money you afford to lose). You decided to go past that and lose some nice money. Too bad...

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 11:18:14 PM

Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time..

The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won.

Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me

I am confused. You said you will get your revenge so it was you who did lose the funds in the first place. You went back when it opened again because you said it was closed yesterday.
Now you are lucky this sh*t did not happen to you?
Or are we lucky this doesn't happen to us?

Anyway, maybe it's rigged, or maybe it's not. Just always remember the house will always win. Not in a literal way, but they always have a higher chance to win than yours. 60-40 or maybe more. Considering the "rigged" accusations, it will shoot up to an 80 percent win chance.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 11:18:14 PM

The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won.

Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me

Just go home when you've won already a lot and spend the money right away if you can't stop that itch you've got on your hand. Because that will happen again whenever you feel that you have to spin or bet and go back again in that casino.

Forget about blaming the casino as they're not going to just giveaway money to the gamblers. And stop that mindset of taking revenge on them as if you'll really going to bankrupt them, look, you're the one now on the opposing side from your own words.

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About 10 years ago, a casino opened in my city, we don’t have many of them, and the news about this quickly spread around the city that the casino was looking for a croupier. My friend decided to go to work at roulette, he was accepted and after some time he noticed that if you twist the ball with a certain force, then the ball stops in approximately one area. He told the owner about it and showed how he does it. So yes, it's possible, maybe it was discovered by accident by my friend, but it happens.

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I knew a croupier who worked in one of the biggest casinos in my city until gambling was moved to a separate area. He said that they were taught all sorts of tricks to save the casino money. He said that there were such croupiers who could throw the ball in the right sector of the roulette wheel. Believe it or not, it's up to you, but I guess he had no reason to lie to me. Personally, I believe that the main purpose of a croupier is to beat the casino goer and not lose a smile on his face.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 11:18:14 PM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on November 07, 2022, 11:14:58 PM

Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 10:57:57 PM

This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in

You are right to blame something external rather than yourself.

Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday?

Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revenge

It looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something.

Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time..

The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won.

Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me

Maybe you are just expecting to much then didn't quit immediately once you are on winning side and then bad luck came then you lose all your money. This happen always especially when you became greedy and want to earn more money since you are not contended on what you are receiving at that time.

Maybe next time best solution to gain from roullete is to quit immediately and comeback tommorrow or the other day since if you came back in an hour or the same day you might lose all your money.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 10:57:57 PM

Quote from: jackg on November 07, 2022, 10:30:45 PM

There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.

There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.

These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).

This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in

I am assuming that your "revenge" and plan to "bankrupt" them didn't go as planned? also, you don't have any evidence that the roulette game was rigged. it seems to me that you agreed with jackg to justify your thoughts that you were cheated and is denying the fact that you lost twice in a row fair and square.

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Quote from: swogerino on November 08, 2022, 03:09:15 AM

Online is a different story as everything is controlled by a program or algorithm which can be changed so I don't know what to say here,my idea was for the offline roulette which makes no sense to rig it when it guarantees profits to the house.

That is just it, there is possibility that online casinos can rig compare to land based ones, yet is there a reason for it? People will later likely know and this can damage the reputation of the gambling site. But why rigging anything when they set a hedge that makes them have better chance to win. Even in sport that bettors have more chance to win, gambling sites set odds in a way more gamblers will lose and they will gain, it is like that in casinos too, while even that the chance to lose more are in casinos compared to sport betting. So no good reason for casinos to manipulate anything because they will always grow and become more established.

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I'm not sure if it is really possible, but I saw a movie wherein the staff who is in charge to run the game for the players has a button to move the wheel as well as the ball without the players' notice. If this really happens on land based casino or even with online platforms, that would be unfair. I'm not into slots and roulettes, but because of these tendencies, I'm not into 'pure luck' gambling games. In sportsbetting, there is also a tendency for result manipulation depending on the fighters or teams. Money rules and money talks, right? Since we cannot easily determined if the house is manipulating the game, be observant. As other players suggest, if you often lose, try playing on other platform to somehow calibrate your losses.

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Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 11:18:14 PM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on November 07, 2022, 11:14:58 PM

Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 10:57:57 PM

This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in

You are right to blame something external rather than yourself.

Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday?

Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revenge

It looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something.

Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time..

The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won.

Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me

if you want a lot of money you don't have to play roulette you can invest anything to get a return on your investment, basically everyone already knows casinos will not give you a lot of money even if you play with hundreds or thousands of dollars, they have their own ways to take your money its hard to find a fair game unless maybe you bet on sports because it won't be easy to cheat, to be honest i'm not a roullete lover but it looks like you made the right decision to leave the casino before your money runs out Grin

But that's another story to tell. We are in gambling dection so what could we expect? People here are into this activity and are just sharing informations and possibilities about their experiences and thoughts about the games they are playing.

Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 11:18:14 PM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on November 07, 2022, 11:14:58 PM

Quote from: Fishy001 on November 07, 2022, 10:57:57 PM

This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in

You are right to blame something external rather than yourself.

Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday?

Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revenge

It looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something.

Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time..

The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won.

Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me

Luck itself is not constant. Things tend to change, that's what gambling is about.

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I have an idea of my own that any thing can be rigged,yes even the US elections that put Trump to power.Coming back here,while a roulette can be rigged but why should anyone do that as it does not make a lot of sense,roulette is a game of luck and in the end a huge portion of winnings in offline casinos come from roulette tables so I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to rig a game which is guaranteed to bring to the house profits over the long run.

Online is a different story as everything is controlled by a program or algorithm which can be changed so I don't know what to say here,my idea was for the offline roulette which makes no sense to rig it when it guarantees profits to the house.

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