I saw that in small leagues only where it is very common and less risky, it is hard to catch these players or fighters when they intentionally act in a away they make their friends or betters win lots of money from sportsbooks. unfortunately, if this thing is coming out to most known and popular league such as Premier League, I must say that rules against such act should be very strict, anyone that attempts such a manipulation against the casino and harming the term of football or sport where they meant to be fair for everyone.
If this news is true and what happened in these situations were planned for, I think there are already more players doing this trick even to gamble themselves using their relatives accounts for betting. I also think the best thing to do now from all football federations to keep an eye on such situations, giving lifetime ban from football, that’s how these players wouldn’t even think about doing it and losing their careers.
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June 14, 2024, 03:38:25 PM
June 14, 2024, 03:22:38 PM
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
I understand that it is easier to fix some of the sports you mention but it will surprise you to know that fixed matches in football is alarming and highly confidential. There have been many reports of match fixing in various leagues including the famous English Premiership and Spanish La Liga. Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
I think that fraud appeared when money appeared or even earlier. The sport can never be completely protected from fraud.
Yes, I believe that some players can use such actions to make money, but the cost of a mistake is very high. If it is proven that a player is involved in such things, then most likely he will be suspended from participating in matches or banned from playing altogether for some time or forever. I don't think it's worth it.
I have not seen the option that a particular will receive a card in any sportsbook, it should be because I was not been looking for it.
June 14, 2024, 03:06:00 PM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
I think that fraud appeared when money appeared or even earlier. The sport can never be completely protected from fraud.
Yes, I believe that some players can use such actions to make money, but the cost of a mistake is very high. If it is proven that a player is involved in such things, then most likely he will be suspended from participating in matches or banned from playing altogether for some time or forever. I don't think it's worth it.
June 14, 2024, 02:53:08 PM
It's possible that he might or not be guilty and I'm in no position to judge but there are possibilities for thigns and corruption like this to be going on in football, you know there is always the temptation to make some extra money and knowing that you are in control, and I've mostly heard of thigns like this going on in lower leagues, has anyone heard about fixed matches?, I've found myself buying some of those and it didn't work but some of my friends say that they are legitimate fixed matches, if so then it confirms that some players or clubs manipulate match results to make money.
Before F.A charges a player for match fixing related charges it means that one way or the other that particular player is guilty because you can't tell me that a player will continue making same mistakes of getting a yellow card unintentionally and before you see the football F.A charge a player means they have ran series of investigation about such situations and it keeps reoccurring, it is bad that corruption have now entered into football such that some players, coaches and referees are no longer disciplined to play according to the rules of the game.
June 14, 2024, 02:31:35 PM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
Off cause it can be true if matches can be bought with money then what is foul that one can not commit just for someone to hit jackpot and they always have a deal after the match and everything worked out you will give me my own share and i think the reason why they find out or they accused him of this was because from his records in football such thing hasn't happened before just imagined Messi started biting in the pitch mean while he doesn't use to do it from his records definitely they are going to suspect him and figure out the reason why and anything two person did is not a secret.
June 07, 2024, 09:37:40 AM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
Talking about the Lucas case, this news has become a hot topic of conversation in sports betting, many negative comments have been made by professional gamblers regarding Lucas' actions.Case that happened to football player Lucas.
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FA has carried out an investigation into the Lucas Paqueta case. On Thursday (23/5), the FA announced Paqueta's case. The Brazilian player violated the regulations of articles FA F2 and FA F3. The two articles are related to gambling.
Two seasons defending West Ham, Paqueta received 15 yellow cards in the Premier League. Well, four of the 10 yellow cards received by Paqueta were considered intentional and related to gambling.
The four yellow cards were received in matches against Leicester City (2022), Aston Villa (2023), Leeds United (2023); and AFC Bournemouth (2023).
FA has accessed Paqueta's phone as part of the investigation. In the future, it is believed that the FA is preparing severe sanctions against Paqueta. As in the case of Kynan Isaac from Reading, Paqueta faces a 10 year sanction.
Two seasons defending West Ham, Paqueta received 15 yellow cards in the Premier League. Well, four of the 10 yellow cards received by Paqueta were considered intentional and related to gambling.
The four yellow cards were received in matches against Leicester City (2022), Aston Villa (2023), Leeds United (2023); and AFC Bournemouth (2023).
FA has accessed Paqueta's phone as part of the investigation. In the future, it is believed that the FA is preparing severe sanctions against Paqueta. As in the case of Kynan Isaac from Reading, Paqueta faces a 10 year sanction.
Indeed, the world of football is the biggest gambling arena in the world. I have read about cases like this, but it was done by the referee or the club to win the bet, but Lucas' actions, in my opinion, he was very brave to act, because he did it himself, this could really destroy his own career, if it is proven that he did all this to win gambling, this is clearly a serious violation for anyone who really acts ridiculously in the football/field arena.
Yes, alligatoin does exist in the world of sports, it has been around for a long time.
June 07, 2024, 09:29:27 AM
It is very surprising to find out that footballers who play in the most popular leagues do such lowly things like this. To be honest, I don't know what his motivation was, but I think he did the stupidest thing in his life. Lucas Paqueta will receive a lifetime ban from playing if found guilty, he is considered to have intentionally received a yellow card when the team he played for played against Leicester City, Aston Villa, Leeds United and Bournemouth. Paqueta's career is in danger of ending soon because the FA indictment documents include a recommendation for a life sentence for him.
June 07, 2024, 09:14:12 AM
some players just accept the request from the bettors because it is a fairly easy request, and think that they can get away with it. they are too careless by thinking that they can keep playing in the league and at the same time accept the request from the bettors, maybe they think they can get 2 incomes at once. they are too trivial to think that the big leagues do not have ears everywhere and good monitoring of the players who play in the league, what these players do is monitored and they cannot assume that they can get away with what they do. the big leagues have an image and they do not want it to be damaged because their players are involved in arrangements like this.
Players fulfilling bettors request? This is new for me because typically players that involved in match fixing are those who made bet by themselves and not by collaborating with other bettors since he will not be caught if he is not using his own account.
Also the chance of players colluding with bettors is very low because it means that he is risking his career by sharing this sensitive information with bettors.
Match fixing is not new but typically it just involves players and inner circle management and not bettors outside the team that might exposed their plan.
June 07, 2024, 09:09:21 AM
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We have heard these, but at the same time we have heard the consequences, most of these people just lost their job, which is millions of euro in salary, so does it really worth it? What I would wonder is if a mob goes to a player and tell that player to get a yellow card, what would a player do? I mean if the alternative is breaking your legs, then I do not think that player could reject mobs request, how do people handle that?
We have heard these, but at the same time we have heard the consequences, most of these people just lost their job, which is millions of euro in salary, so does it really worth it? What I would wonder is if a mob goes to a player and tell that player to get a yellow card, what would a player do? I mean if the alternative is breaking your legs, then I do not think that player could reject mobs request, how do people handle that?
some players just accept the request from the bettors because it is a fairly easy request, and think that they can get away with it. they are too careless by thinking that they can keep playing in the league and at the same time accept the request from the bettors, maybe they think they can get 2 incomes at once. they are too trivial to think that the big leagues do not have ears everywhere and good monitoring of the players who play in the league, what these players do is monitored and they cannot assume that they can get away with what they do. the big leagues have an image and they do not want it to be damaged because their players are involved in arrangements like this.
June 07, 2024, 08:33:51 AM
It's unfortunate because this is going to ruin the sport if more players start to get involved in such things, taking money to sell their souls and loyalty. I wonder how they can go this far in being unethical and not caring about all the love and support they get from their clubs and their fans and besides all this, they are paid pretty well, so I don't see any reason for why a player playing in such a big league on a global stage should do something like that for money.
It would be understandable if a player from a lower league and division does it because they might not be getting enough money and they want to make more money, but being at this level and still going this low only to get more money is something condemnable for sure.
It would be understandable if a player from a lower league and division does it because they might not be getting enough money and they want to make more money, but being at this level and still going this low only to get more money is something condemnable for sure.
June 06, 2024, 02:18:39 PM
It's possible that he might or not be guilty and I'm in no position to judge but there are possibilities for thigns and corruption like this to be going on in football, you know there is always the temptation to make some extra money and knowing that you are in control, and I've mostly heard of thigns like this going on in lower leagues, has anyone heard about fixed matches?, I've found myself buying some of those and it didn't work but some of my friends say that they are legitimate fixed matches, if so then it confirms that some players or clubs manipulate match results to make money.
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June 06, 2024, 02:08:51 PM
I don't know what they think, even though if their already have a job with a big salary, they have to play cooperatively and professionally without having to be greedy to get profits due to cheating because that is the same as fooling low level gamblers who try to gamble by analyzing and being careful. but it turns out that the winnings were manipulated because it would be very painful if it was found out by gamblers who were trying to be honest and ended up distrusting gambling.
Well, it can only be said like this: unless they get caught and punishment is being discharged to them and news is being released about the players involved in such activities, that's only when gamblers can be aware when placing a bet in a game that those players are involved in. If those players are not caught, cheating will just be happening under the noses of gamblers, and they will have a failed prediction even in situations where they are supposed to win their bet.
June 05, 2024, 03:26:05 PM
We have heard recently with some of them do it, and they usually go with something more sneaky, like not the game result, but "x player will get yellow card" and they go get a yellow card as well, so it is not really that much impactful on the game result itself directly, but it is still shady and definitely illegal.
We have heard these, but at the same time we have heard the consequences, most of these people just lost their job, which is millions of euro in salary, so does it really worth it? What I would wonder is if a mob goes to a player and tell that player to get a yellow card, what would a player do? I mean if the alternative is breaking your legs, then I do not think that player could reject mobs request, how do people handle that?
We have heard these, but at the same time we have heard the consequences, most of these people just lost their job, which is millions of euro in salary, so does it really worth it? What I would wonder is if a mob goes to a player and tell that player to get a yellow card, what would a player do? I mean if the alternative is breaking your legs, then I do not think that player could reject mobs request, how do people handle that?
June 05, 2024, 02:00:36 PM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
Paqueta is making so much money, he doesn't need these type of things to make more, he is already rich. I still think that there is something else going on there, maybe something regarding mafia or something?I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
I mean I still do not completely understand how footballers are not threatened by mafia all the time, must be something that is a little bit easier to do for mobster because they can just say "get a red card this game or we will shoot you" and the player could feel scared and do it, even if they don't, and mafia does, then we could probably see the players do whatever mob says next time. Sure that's a big deal and cops would be all around, but you just send a croonie who will shut up, and mafia still goes on easily.
June 05, 2024, 01:44:59 PM
Everybody knows that there is match fixing, especially in football, where players can collude with gamblers to change the course of a match. This is certainly not moral, but there is nothing fair about the world we live in. The best way to prevent this is to allow only side betting. Banning other types of betting could be the solution. Governments, football clubs and the financial police have a lot of work to do here.
That is why there will always be many very corrupt ways of doing things in FIFA and this can be very damaging to the sport. I have seen deception and corruption in local, national and even international football matches, but it is still the same with the VAR. It was said that with the VAR everything was going to be different, but it is not. That is why with the VAR they now handle it with much more mystery. They only review the VAR when the central referee does not signal an infraction, but if he makes a mistake and does not signal it, there is no VAR, so in this case it is clear that we are still in the same situation as many years ago and it is a sad reality.
June 05, 2024, 05:09:17 AM
In my opinion, in all sports they should punish in an exemplary manner those who make mistakes like this and not only in crucial areas, also considering all the money that goes around and we poor bettors do nothing but lose money because we too, in our own way, contribute to making the sport great. sports with a lot of money so for the punishments I totally agree they should no longer participate in any sports championship forever simply for the fact of the trust of the fans it just sucks..
Punishment can never stop individuals from doing the same thing again, this is an act of corruption that will always exist even if the previous perpetrator has received a heavy sentence, for example, he will no longer be able to play for the rest of his life. Apart from football, this happens in other sports and many athletes have ended up having to stop their careers because they were proven to be involved in match-fixing, but once again in the years to come cases like this will appear again.In the case of Lucas Paqueta, this is quite surprising because he plays in a big league, which means he receives a large salary and some say he is the player with the highest salary at West Ham so it is impossible that the money offered from match-fixing is small, but players like this if proven to be very detrimental to fair play in sports
June 04, 2024, 11:19:20 PM
It is very possible that players can engage in such a collaborative agreement with some whale gamblers. The reason for such action is to get more money because they will definitely take a share of the money that will be won by the bettor.While this corrupt practice is being done by some players, which is usually unknown to the rest of the team, it cannot happen all the time, and when it becomes a repetitive practice, the player will definitely be replaced.Most of those players are paid handsomely, but I wonder why they will still engage in such practices. What kind of greedy attitude is that? If this becomes popular, then it's going to make other low class gamblers to doubt their prediction, even when they have made an accurate prediction.
Greed is the nature of humans who are never satisfied with their income and try to find any way to get money from any route. They cheat because they are not professional as players because they make private agreements with bettors who also want to cheat in order to make a profit. with the gambling he is betting on and this actually should not happen because it will make us not believe in accurate predictions because the winnings can be manipulated by bookies who want to cheat and also harm other players because other players play seriously and they can be affected by it.I don't know what they think, even though if their already have a job with a big salary, they have to play cooperatively and professionally without having to be greedy to get profits due to cheating because that is the same as fooling low level gamblers who try to gamble by analyzing and being careful. but it turns out that the winnings were manipulated because it would be very painful if it was found out by gamblers who were trying to be honest and ended up distrusting gambling.
June 04, 2024, 06:52:22 PM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
It could really be true but on his case, it depends on the investigation however this incident isn't a new thing to be honest. Some players desire of an easy money and this is the same thing as with fixed matches wherein there's an intent behind the team or player's performance. I'd say this is something bettors have no control of. Those players who are doing fixed matches are also aware of the consequences if ever they will got caught doing these actions and we've seen enough of this. If I were the player who will have a chance to do it as well, I won't. They are earning enough and it would be a big gamble to place your career on the line just for a quick money. There will never be an easy way to earn money without a ton of consequences so better act right. It was just recently that a player in NBA have suffered from it, which should be an enough warning. If you are one of the gamblers who rely on cheating just to win, then this industry is not for you. I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
June 04, 2024, 06:51:15 PM
So good that they caught this guy. What he did was highly unethical and if true at least he should admit it. If it is proven without his admission, ban him from A leagues for his career. If he admits it give him a fine and a 1.5 year ban or something.
Pro athletes like him with admission should still be given a lesson. 1.5 years is not that quite long but the team won't just do that or the organization that are patronizing that sport. With admission or not, banning and voiding his contract is the best thing to do. It will serve him as a lesson that he's given a good opportunity and yet he had broken the trust of his club and fans.
And at the same time, this will also serve as a lesson in the future to avoid any involvement by a pro athlete to any type of gambling activities.
June 04, 2024, 04:00:44 PM
So good that they caught this guy. What he did was highly unethical and if true at least he should admit it. If it is proven without his admission, ban him from A leagues for his career. If he admits it give him a fine and a 1.5 year ban or something.
But if it can't be proven then I don't know. For something an individual does without other organization then it's hard to prove because there's no big movement behind such incidents. Good on the association for utilizing sources and acting quickly though. In many other countries this would have been burried. But the quick action gives faith in the fairness of a league.
But if it can't be proven then I don't know. For something an individual does without other organization then it's hard to prove because there's no big movement behind such incidents. Good on the association for utilizing sources and acting quickly though. In many other countries this would have been burried. But the quick action gives faith in the fairness of a league.
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