As long as there is betting in a game, we cannot prevent it. Either betting has to be closed down completely or we will continue to see these situations. I think betting is an indispensable element for games, but in recent years, bookmakers have developed so many different types of bets that the games have lost their purpose.
Everybody knows that there is match fixing, especially in football, where players can collude with gamblers to change the course of a match. This is certainly not moral, but there is nothing fair about the world we live in. The best way to prevent this is to allow only side betting. Banning other types of betting could be the solution. Governments, football clubs and the financial police have a lot of work to do here.
Topic: Can soccer players collaborate with gamblers to help them win there bet? - page 2. (Read 552 times)
June 04, 2024, 02:57:29 PM
June 03, 2024, 03:13:00 PM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
It is cheating, plain and simple, and person into fair play in sport would appreciate that. Match fixing has been around for decades, if not centuries and is possible in any sport - it's not restricted to certain things like wrestling. It can be incredibly lucrative for the players who engage in it because they are able to control the outcome and abuse bookmakers for massive odds discrepancies. You'll find that many bookmakers will avoid offering bets on lower level leagues or in certain regions, because it can become a lot more prevalent when you don't have millions of people watching you on TV. Besides that, the top leagues already pay the best players obscene amounts and it's the lower league players who might be thinking they'll never make it higher that are most vulnerable.
June 03, 2024, 02:35:13 PM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
I am not sure whether it is true or not but if it is true then I think the person who has been charged might have a valid reason but if there is something wrong decision then it is very bad not only for the charged person but also for the community. I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
May 31, 2024, 05:33:54 AM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
If he must be charged for such intentional act why not keep betting aside and just flow football rules? How was it even proven that it was intentional act if not the FA organizers could only be serving that penalty as personal hatred to tag him unnecessarily.I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card?
Fixed matches are thought also practiced in footballs most especially English football leagues. May 31, 2024, 05:19:43 AM
It's possible.
Well, that's why they are punished severely if proven guilty. I don't think they should just fine whoever does this kind of feat because it will not be good for the sport.
Apply a punishment that will make a noise to all sports players that if they do the same, they will have to answer with the allegations and the penalty will either be long years of suspension or a ban in the sport itself and other sports that are connected to it.
That way, other players will not try to mimic what they did and they will be afraid to do so because it's their profession and money that will be on the line.
I think one UFC coach was also suspended because of doing this, worse he was betting for the opponent, not his fighters.
Well, that's why they are punished severely if proven guilty. I don't think they should just fine whoever does this kind of feat because it will not be good for the sport.
Apply a punishment that will make a noise to all sports players that if they do the same, they will have to answer with the allegations and the penalty will either be long years of suspension or a ban in the sport itself and other sports that are connected to it.
That way, other players will not try to mimic what they did and they will be afraid to do so because it's their profession and money that will be on the line.
I think one UFC coach was also suspended because of doing this, worse he was betting for the opponent, not his fighters.
In my opinion, in all sports they should punish in an exemplary manner those who make mistakes like this and not only in crucial areas, also considering all the money that goes around and we poor bettors do nothing but lose money because we too, in our own way, contribute to making the sport great. sports with a lot of money so for the punishments I totally agree they should no longer participate in any sports championship forever simply for the fact of the trust of the fans it just sucks..
May 31, 2024, 04:55:33 AM
It's possible.
Well, that's why they are punished severely if proven guilty. I don't think they should just fine whoever does this kind of feat because it will not be good for the sport.
Apply a punishment that will make a noise to all sports players that if they do the same, they will have to answer with the allegations and the penalty will either be long years of suspension or a ban in the sport itself and other sports that are connected to it.
That way, other players will not try to mimic what they did and they will be afraid to do so because it's their profession and money that will be on the line.
I think one UFC coach was also suspended because of doing this, worse he was betting for the opponent, not his fighters.
Well, that's why they are punished severely if proven guilty. I don't think they should just fine whoever does this kind of feat because it will not be good for the sport.
Apply a punishment that will make a noise to all sports players that if they do the same, they will have to answer with the allegations and the penalty will either be long years of suspension or a ban in the sport itself and other sports that are connected to it.
That way, other players will not try to mimic what they did and they will be afraid to do so because it's their profession and money that will be on the line.
I think one UFC coach was also suspended because of doing this, worse he was betting for the opponent, not his fighters.
It's obvious that it's possible that the players are doing it, but of course they don't let others know about it or they have a different strategy to do it, the other players order someone else to bet for them because when they get caught they do that, there are sanctions and grounds that will be given to them, the worst is that they might be removed from the team and banned forever, because I am not familiar with the rules and regulations of a sports player but I have read news about this before issue is also why I had the idea that there is a penalty imposed once you are proven to be doing that.
May 27, 2024, 07:05:50 AM
It's possible.
Well, that's why they are punished severely if proven guilty. I don't think they should just fine whoever does this kind of feat because it will not be good for the sport.
Apply a punishment that will make a noise to all sports players that if they do the same, they will have to answer with the allegations and the penalty will either be long years of suspension or a ban in the sport itself and other sports that are connected to it.
That way, other players will not try to mimic what they did and they will be afraid to do so because it's their profession and money that will be on the line.
I think one UFC coach was also suspended because of doing this, worse he was betting for the opponent, not his fighters.
Well, that's why they are punished severely if proven guilty. I don't think they should just fine whoever does this kind of feat because it will not be good for the sport.
Apply a punishment that will make a noise to all sports players that if they do the same, they will have to answer with the allegations and the penalty will either be long years of suspension or a ban in the sport itself and other sports that are connected to it.
That way, other players will not try to mimic what they did and they will be afraid to do so because it's their profession and money that will be on the line.
I think one UFC coach was also suspended because of doing this, worse he was betting for the opponent, not his fighters.
May 27, 2024, 06:47:30 AM
I am surprised to see that this happened in a very popular League. And I wonder what could be the motivation for him as a player like what is in it for him. Usually this kind of things happens in less popular leagues like the local leagues. I think you should be a ban so as to serve as a warning to other players.
Not that these malpractices doesn't exist in the world of football games spanning from the officials down to players, so therefore, it doesn't freak me to see this happening in such a popular (prestigious) football league. The reason why most of us do get surprised hearing about this coming from a popular league is because more often than not we have thought that these things only get to happen within the lower leagues division because of the scanty attention those leagues enjoys. However, I won't hurry to conclude if this in particular is true until proven with evidence to show that it's actually true as accused but for now it's just as every other allegations in football against players which in some cases investigations findings has proven otherwise.
Within the realm of possibility if this happens to be the reality then a lot of things about football gambling will definitely go wrong with gamblers losing trust and faith about some occurrences that may take place in the sport henceforth, by contemplating if it wasn't intentionally interfered with or influenced just as it's common in boxing and wrestling.
A ban will be fair to save the sport from losing its uniqueness among other sports.
May 25, 2024, 11:12:09 AM
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What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
Well if this allegation is proven to be true, then we are now facing consequences of game fixing on the match.
The essence of sports betting has always been the competitiveness of a given sport where you watch players compete with each other against their skills, techniques, and other technicalities. If soccer players (or football players) are influenced by money to the point that they can control the outcome of their games, then this will absolutely defeat the purpose on why sports betting has been created in the first place.
Just like what I mentioned on my previous replies, the NBA has also banned Jontay Porter of the Toronto Raptors where he allegedly released confidential information that can give some bettors an unfair advantage over the players.1
IN CONCLUSION:
Sports betting is fun and watching sports can be very entertaining. If you mix the two worlds together, then people could watch and at the same time bet on their favorite team.
But if the players themselves can control the outcome of the match by intentionally losing the game or doing some acts that are against the spirit of the sport, then the future of sports betting may be compromised as well.
1 https://ktla.com/news/nba-bans-player-for-gambling-violations/
May 25, 2024, 11:11:59 AM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
That is in high level as this guy has been playing in the Premier League which many of us sport fans consider as the pinnacle of European football,if these things happen in such high level performing leagues just imagine what happens in the lower leagues or countries where football is not that popular like Malta,Andorra,San Marino and I intentionally took as an example these countries where football is not that developed just to show that the games there often prove quite some surprise results and many thinks this is because of people collaborating together to win bets.The one that lose from such bets is the casino yet overall the casino wins as most people bets on the favorite.These type of stories are going on from a lot of years,it is just that now more and more people are starting to notice.
May 25, 2024, 11:03:25 AM
And this is where match fixing comes into play. I didn't know Lucas Paqueta, but from what I read, he's a reasonably known player for West Ham United; thus, he must be getting paid quite decently. How much money was he offered to be willing to accept such a risk? The risk is far greater than the reward. Now he's running the risk of getting disqualified for up to 10 years, and his reputation is tarnished, of course. This incident also raises the question: how often are such cases happening, and how many go unnoticed?
May 25, 2024, 10:21:02 AM
Anything is possible and especially some of the footballer who can't abide to rules and regulation of their clubs can easily do that to have their fan favored, and one thing you must also know is that corruption is something that could be very hard to control, although it is hard to believe that this happened in the English league. To me local leagues are easily to be manipulated or being influenced by top rich people to bribe their players in favor of them with a life change rewards, this could be either groups of people teaming up to get a player's attention in order to pay them off on their bets.
May 25, 2024, 09:42:43 AM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
Paqueta is making so much money, he doesn't need these type of things to make more, he is already rich. I still think that there is something else going on there, maybe something regarding mafia or something?I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
I mean I still do not completely understand how footballers are not threatened by mafia all the time, must be something that is a little bit easier to do for mobster because they can just say "get a red card this game or we will shoot you" and the player could feel scared and do it, even if they don't, and mafia does, then we could probably see the players do whatever mob says next time. Sure that's a big deal and cops would be all around, but you just send a croonie who will shut up, and mafia still goes on easily.
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May 25, 2024, 09:41:04 AM
It is very possible that players can engage in such a collaborative agreement with some whale gamblers. The reason for such action is to get more money because they will definitely take a share of the money that will be won by the bettor.While this corrupt practice is being done by some players, which is usually unknown to the rest of the team, it cannot happen all the time, and when it becomes a repetitive practice, the player will definitely be replaced.Most of those players are paid handsomely, but I wonder why they will still engage in such practices. What kind of greedy attitude is that? If this becomes popular, then it's going to make other low class gamblers to doubt their prediction, even when they have made an accurate prediction.
May 25, 2024, 09:24:10 AM
Absolutely. Crooked sports games has been around as long as betting has been. Depending on how much the players make is what I see as the likelihood of a game possibly being rigged. In the higher leagues where players make a ton of money I think it's less likely because they don't want to ruin their careers. But in the lower leagues some of these payouts are more than their annual salary. It's worth it for them financially to cheat. I don't bet on lower leagues because of that.
May 25, 2024, 09:15:56 AM
In football cricket we often hear about many such scams where gamblers make deals with various players and commit such scams. As in cricket a player is instructed to take a no ball at a crucial time or to drop a catch at a crucial time. Such offers result in those gamblers placing bets with all other gamblers and winning bets. Many times we have seen players banned for a certain amount of time in such actions. Not only in cricket but also in football there are cases where goalkeepers or strikers are asked to do such things in return for money and they do such things according to the gamblers. It's definitely a scam and players who do such things with their country and their team just for money are definitely a detriment to that team.
May 25, 2024, 08:48:11 AM
Not only in soccer or football. But many of them happens, happened and might happen in any kind of sporting event. And they're going to be illegal because it is never been allowed by these organizations. It's a shame, a true shame if a big league has found someone actually do this. It's also a gamble to the person that will do it but are they willing to do that when they know the risk?
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Indeed, many athletes who stumble on gambling cases use their position to manipulate in every competition to win the gambler on the gamble made.-snip-
The Athlete will benefit from the manipulation and of course they know the risk is proportional to the benefits obtained and also more than their salary as athletes.
All of them are compensated properly and I think that those athletes that accepts deals like this are just certain gamblers and know what is coming to them. Despite that, they can't stop themselves and still stick to the greed that has been offered to them. It's just sad that they will be ending their careers not with honor but with insults from their fans or the community that they are part of.
May 25, 2024, 05:15:21 AM
Nowadays, people want to make instant profits by manipulating things like this and this is no longer a common secret in football matches. In fact I also believe that wins and losses can also be regulated by the bookie if many people bet their money on their favorite club then will be given a surprise by the victory achieved by an ordinary club so that many people experience losses regarding this, in football I don't fully trust the results of domestic league matches but if it's a big match like the Champions League I trust it because the clubs that appear here will show their performance best without being affected by fraud.
Even clubs can manipulate, especially with players who make deals with other gamblers secretly so that they can also benefit from the proceeds of the fraud. This is the same as committing a violation and can endanger other players if they commit accidental violations. Every football game has to implement regulations regarding cheating such as this and given a penalty so that other players do not do the same thing just because they want to make a profit.
Even clubs can manipulate, especially with players who make deals with other gamblers secretly so that they can also benefit from the proceeds of the fraud. This is the same as committing a violation and can endanger other players if they commit accidental violations. Every football game has to implement regulations regarding cheating such as this and given a penalty so that other players do not do the same thing just because they want to make a profit.
May 25, 2024, 02:13:10 AM
It's unfortunate to see such fixing in a top league. Though it has gotten rare, they are not being able to completely get rid of it.Spot fixing has always been a part of football. There are many cases where single or a few number of players did or didn't did anything for money. It's much easier and mostly unrecognizable so it's still popular in high level games. The problem comes when they try to use or move that money. The funds of players and their families in most of large teams are on watch.
Paqueta comes form Brazil so money is a great deal for him and it would be easier for him to receive and launder it in brazil. It's still accusation but I think the FA has clear evidence to start the investigation.
Paqueta comes form Brazil so money is a great deal for him and it would be easier for him to receive and launder it in brazil. It's still accusation but I think the FA has clear evidence to start the investigation.
May 25, 2024, 01:58:31 AM
Lucas paqueta just got charged by the FA for allegedly bridging betting rules. According to report, it's believed that he intentionally took yellow cards in some key matches just so some gamblers can profit from there betting.
I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
It is very likely to happen, because after all someone will look for loopholes to get a bigger profit, from so many matches and so many soccer players there will definitely be one of them who cheats like this just to benefit from for example like this case, namely cooperation in order to get a bet win, anything in this world does not rule out the possibility of cheating.I know wrestling and boxing are the popular sports where fixed matches is dominant but has this gotten to football we're players can intentionally foul an opponents just to be penalized with a yellow card? If this is true, what's now the faith of proper sports? If players can't take out there personal interest out of sports and just do thier part which gives gamblers a neutral ground to thread on, then we've got a lot of problems in the sector.
What's your view on this, is it possible that such alligatoin might be true?
But in soccer in my opinion it is quite difficult to be able to manipulate it if you only work with only 1 player. like getting a yellow card, there need to be two or three people who can work together so that the plan becomes smoother, but in duo matches or smaller teams such as futsal or cricket or boxing it is very easy to manipulate in my opinion to make a match that is engineered.
Some suspicions of match-fixing must be very much but for smart players this kind of thing is very difficult to identify, especially if only a few people do engineering and show fair play even though there are some things that are deliberately made to deceive.
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