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legendary
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March 12, 2017, 01:25:00 PM
Yes, we can definitely manipulate bitcoin's price if we do have large amount of $$$ to begin with and we know how to play and how to scare off little fishes in this great lake of opportunities. It was done successfully by Willy bot on the rise to ATH on Nov. 2013 and it might be the same thing that happened again on this current year's run.
legendary
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March 12, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status
by regulating demand and supply that means you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. but this time because bitcoin users have very much of course to manipulate demand and supply has been very difficult dude
The manipulation of supply just can be done by the bitcoin exchange site , and look at the chinese exchange in the previous time too many the ghost volume in his circulation and after the PBOC had done the audit and all of the fake volume was disappearing. and it will need a lot of the effort to do that.

yes i am agree with this and we see this is happen in chinese exchange although we don't know how much the real amount that they manipulated but we only know that they manipulation the volume. beside that, we don't know what is their purpose so they doing this and i think they will do again in someday after they have stable position from any of audit.

Unfortunately, I also think that China continues to manipulate the price of bitcoin. This is due to the fact that in China the largest holders of cryptocurrency

Could be. That is why they are too scared that it will become uncontrollable. Their government is really wise in making fast decision. Telling their country it is banned in some parts then making a statement thru their media that they are starting to work for a new blockchain that they will use as their own. Kind of creepy but they really acted fast there.
sr. member
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March 12, 2017, 12:21:29 PM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status
by regulating demand and supply that means you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. but this time because bitcoin users have very much of course to manipulate demand and supply has been very difficult dude
The manipulation of supply just can be done by the bitcoin exchange site , and look at the chinese exchange in the previous time too many the ghost volume in his circulation and after the PBOC had done the audit and all of the fake volume was disappearing. and it will need a lot of the effort to do that.

yes i am agree with this and we see this is happen in chinese exchange although we don't know how much the real amount that they manipulated but we only know that they manipulation the volume. beside that, we don't know what is their purpose so they doing this and i think they will do again in someday after they have stable position from any of audit.

Unfortunately, I also think that China continues to manipulate the price of bitcoin. This is due to the fact that in China the largest holders of cryptocurrency
hero member
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March 12, 2017, 12:08:05 PM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status
by regulating demand and supply that means you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. but this time because bitcoin users have very much of course to manipulate demand and supply has been very difficult dude
The manipulation of supply just can be done by the bitcoin exchange site , and look at the chinese exchange in the previous time too many the ghost volume in his circulation and after the PBOC had done the audit and all of the fake volume was disappearing. and it will need a lot of the effort to do that.

yes i am agree with this and we see this is happen in chinese exchange although we don't know how much the real amount that they manipulated but we only know that they manipulation the volume. beside that, we don't know what is their purpose so they doing this and i think they will do again in someday after they have stable position from any of audit.
hero member
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March 12, 2017, 12:04:56 PM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status

I do not think that there are many people who hold a large number of bitcoins in order to manipulate the price. But this assumption can not be ignored.
And there are like 10 exchanges, where buy and sell orders combine over 1000 bitcoins and hence its not easy to change the price of bitcoins. There are certain whales whom I see on dice sites winning 10-20 bitcoins and they say that they changed it to fiat yet I never noticed a significant change in price, this itself means that the market cap is enormous and can't be manipulated easily.
hero member
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March 12, 2017, 11:50:55 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status
Even if you hold a huge pile of bitcoins then also manipulating is not that simple because you create a sell order or 10 bitcoins at cheap price means that an equivalent buy order would be filled and hence not changing the market.

Yes, if you own very very huge amounts like on thousands of bitcoins then you can surely alter the market and even make it swing both ways.
legendary
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March 12, 2017, 07:38:50 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status

I do not think that there are many people who hold a large number of bitcoins in order to manipulate the price. But this assumption can not be ignored.
The bitcoin price can't be manipulated, The chinese community not having an enough power to manipulate the bitcoin again. and i think the people with a lot of the bitcoin in their hand just give an impact to make the market will be panic and more newbies try to dump his coin. It will not make the bitcoin easy to get a manipulate by every parties.
Unlike other currencies bitcoin is not centralized and it is not controlled by anyone, the only ones who can change its situation is us the community and if we want to change the price all we have to do is either hold and the price will go up or dump it and the price will go down as simple as that.

That's partially incorrect. When he hold our bitcoins, we increase bitcoin's volatility. It's not necessarily that the price will go up. It will just require less money to pump the price of bitcoins. On the other hand, since that has increased bitcoin's volatility. It will also require less money to dump the price of bitcoins. The actual way to make the price of bitcoin to go up is to buy more bitcoins, not hold it.

Additionally, the effect of your action will depend on how many coins do you have. Supposed that I went all in and sold all of my 1BTC, that doesn't have an effect to the market at all although it has a huge effect on me since that's all I have.
hero member
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March 12, 2017, 01:07:11 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status
by regulating demand and supply that means you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. but this time because bitcoin users have very much of course to manipulate demand and supply has been very difficult dude
The manipulation of supply just can be done by the bitcoin exchange site , and look at the chinese exchange in the previous time too many the ghost volume in his circulation and after the PBOC had done the audit and all of the fake volume was disappearing. and it will need a lot of the effort to do that.
hero member
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March 12, 2017, 12:15:17 AM
We can't manipulation the price due to manipulate the price of bitcoin require huge capital is much bigger than you want to manipulate the price of altcoin. let the price goes naturally.
This time, the hoarders is easy to influence prices because of pacification bitcoin bitcoin is not too good and not all existing bitcoin can be used because there is a case of someone losing a password. so there bitcoin that can not be used. but now, a great country like America and Russia tried to rival the dominance of china. so the deployment of bitcoin will be more evenly distributed, then the hoarders bitcoin will be increasingly difficult to affect the price of bitcoin.
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March 11, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status

I do not think that there are many people who hold a large number of bitcoins in order to manipulate the price. But this assumption can not be ignored.
The bitcoin price can't be manipulated, The chinese community not having an enough power to manipulate the bitcoin again. and i think the people with a lot of the bitcoin in their hand just give an impact to make the market will be panic and more newbies try to dump his coin. It will not make the bitcoin easy to get a manipulate by every parties.
Unlike other currencies bitcoin is not centralized and it is not controlled by anyone, the only ones who can change its situation is us the community and if we want to change the price all we have to do is either hold and the price will go up or dump it and the price will go down as simple as that.

But, after all, we, bitcoin holders can not act the same way. Someone buys, but someone sells. Agree with all we can not. So each of us can not influence the price of bitcoin
legendary
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March 11, 2017, 12:03:54 PM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status

I do not think that there are many people who hold a large number of bitcoins in order to manipulate the price. But this assumption can not be ignored.
The bitcoin price can't be manipulated, The chinese community not having an enough power to manipulate the bitcoin again. and i think the people with a lot of the bitcoin in their hand just give an impact to make the market will be panic and more newbies try to dump his coin. It will not make the bitcoin easy to get a manipulate by every parties.
Unlike other currencies bitcoin is not centralized and it is not controlled by anyone, the only ones who can change its situation is us the community and if we want to change the price all we have to do is either hold and the price will go up or dump it and the price will go down as simple as that.
sr. member
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March 11, 2017, 11:36:23 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status
by regulating demand and supply that means you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. but this time because bitcoin users have very much of course to manipulate demand and supply has been very difficult dude

Adjusting the price of bitcoin is just as impossible as regulating the demand of millions of people. Therefore, I am sure that you can not manipulate the price of bitcoin.
hero member
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March 11, 2017, 07:40:41 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status

Completely agree, I'm sure that happens with bitcoin is natural because of demand and supply factors, and not due to the influence of the pump. It's hard to do the pump because the stock and demand bitcoin spread evenly (no one's monopoly).
That's what you think, but I believe there are people who can really make manipulation although not totally but they can make a great impact to the market in their favor. Look what happen to the price, it has fall back hard and I believe whales are one of those who are making it possible to make people panic, but in the end, they are still the one who are victorious as they can buy cheap bitcoins to add their total holdings.
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March 11, 2017, 06:50:22 AM
We can do it but it is difficult,
But we will have to form a large group and then do so.
Moreover bitcointalk(this forum) I think ,
doesn't have so much capital to do so.
More over most of the bitcoins users are usually minor users.
I mean they have a very small amount of bitcoins present,
To favour their savings of the currency.
So I think let's keep the market going as it was and not thinking of doing so.
sr. member
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March 11, 2017, 05:41:39 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status
by regulating demand and supply that means you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. but this time because bitcoin users have very much of course to manipulate demand and supply has been very difficult dude
hero member
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March 11, 2017, 03:43:47 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status

I do not think that there are many people who hold a large number of bitcoins in order to manipulate the price. But this assumption can not be ignored.
The bitcoin price can't be manipulated, The chinese community not having an enough power to manipulate the bitcoin again. and i think the people with a lot of the bitcoin in their hand just give an impact to make the market will be panic and more newbies try to dump his coin. It will not make the bitcoin easy to get a manipulate by every parties.
full member
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March 11, 2017, 01:23:21 AM
Bitcoins price is based on supply and demand on the market.More demand higher price more supply down price.Yes you can manipulate bitcoins price if you hold a huge supply or supply that may be enough to sell or buy in the current market status

Completely agree, I'm sure that happens with bitcoin is natural because of demand and supply factors, and not due to the influence of the pump. It's hard to do the pump because the stock and demand bitcoin spread evenly (no one's monopoly).
hero member
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March 10, 2017, 03:41:48 PM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.
Manipulating the price of bitcoins is the basic element that controls the price of bitcoins. Somewhere I read earlier that china's some rich guys or company took huge amount of bitcoins and hence made the price fly and this helped them since the rise in price meant that more guys would buy bitcoins and hence once they see a good price they just dump their coins.

The key to the increase of bitcoins is not the manipulation of the price but the demand of the users over the supply of bitcoin. Even if the whales will dispose their bitcoin and the price will go down in a sudden price deflation the users will be happy and will buy more bitcoins. Price manipulation today does not matter as the number of users grew more and more bitcoin are being distributed.
yes that is very right in previous days when the uses of bitcoin were not so much in number  then it was easy to manipulate the price of bitcoin, but now it is becoming more and more difficult to manipulate its price because the number of bitcoin users are increasing day by day, i think the original increase in the price of bitcoin is because of the increasing demand of bitcoin, people are willing to buy bitcoin as for investment and therefore the price of bitcoin is also increasing. 

Manipulation price can not longer than natural price. Yes sure, we can manipulate btc price but you need millios dollar to make btc price higher than now. I will not recomend it

It seems to me that we can not influence the price. Crypto currency is very specific. It does not have a central control point. It becomes more expensive at a time when demand is growing. I am sure that it is impossible to manage this process
sr. member
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March 10, 2017, 10:37:06 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.
Manipulating the price of bitcoins is the basic element that controls the price of bitcoins. Somewhere I read earlier that china's some rich guys or company took huge amount of bitcoins and hence made the price fly and this helped them since the rise in price meant that more guys would buy bitcoins and hence once they see a good price they just dump their coins.

The key to the increase of bitcoins is not the manipulation of the price but the demand of the users over the supply of bitcoin. Even if the whales will dispose their bitcoin and the price will go down in a sudden price deflation the users will be happy and will buy more bitcoins. Price manipulation today does not matter as the number of users grew more and more bitcoin are being distributed.
yes that is very right in previous days when the uses of bitcoin were not so much in number  then it was easy to manipulate the price of bitcoin, but now it is becoming more and more difficult to manipulate its price because the number of bitcoin users are increasing day by day, i think the original increase in the price of bitcoin is because of the increasing demand of bitcoin, people are willing to buy bitcoin as for investment and therefore the price of bitcoin is also increasing. 

Manipulation price can not longer than natural price. Yes sure, we can manipulate btc price but you need millios dollar to make btc price higher than now. I will not recomend it
legendary
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March 10, 2017, 01:49:39 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.
Manipulating the price of bitcoins is the basic element that controls the price of bitcoins. Somewhere I read earlier that china's some rich guys or company took huge amount of bitcoins and hence made the price fly and this helped them since the rise in price meant that more guys would buy bitcoins and hence once they see a good price they just dump their coins.

The key to the increase of bitcoins is not the manipulation of the price but the demand of the users over the supply of bitcoin. Even if the whales will dispose their bitcoin and the price will go down in a sudden price deflation the users will be happy and will buy more bitcoins. Price manipulation today does not matter as the number of users grew more and more bitcoin are being distributed.
yes that is very right in previous days when the uses of bitcoin were not so much in number  then it was easy to manipulate the price of bitcoin, but now it is becoming more and more difficult to manipulate its price because the number of bitcoin users are increasing day by day, i think the original increase in the price of bitcoin is because of the increasing demand of bitcoin, people are willing to buy bitcoin as for investment and therefore the price of bitcoin is also increasing. 
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