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March 08, 2017, 03:09:45 AM
can not !! bitcoin is common property and if it can be manipulated should be done with the same. bitcoin amount is huge and I'm not sure if bitcoin can be manipulated by some people. bitcoin ours and we are the owners of bitcoin !!
Yes,manipulation can be done easily in altcoins which has low marketcap.But, i think in bitcoin which has a huge marketcap,it is not easy to manipulate the price.Even,bitcoin price is also not in control of chinese holders nowadays.
of course, because in bitcoin very large volumes of more than millions of dollars each day in the market rotates bitcoin. so it will be difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin. altcoin may be easier for small marketcap
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March 08, 2017, 02:09:46 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.
Manipulating the price of bitcoins is the basic element that controls the price of bitcoins. Somewhere I read earlier that china's some rich guys or company took huge amount of bitcoins and hence made the price fly and this helped them since the rise in price meant that more guys would buy bitcoins and hence once they see a good price they just dump their coins.

Just like what is happening now, I think someone is manipulating the price of bitcoin. Since there is an important event that is coming for a few days left. It's what many are believing that we can manipulate bitcoins price but that is just applicable for those big players in bitcoin. This is not applicable for us who are just small time bitcoin traders.
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March 08, 2017, 12:02:55 AM
can not !! bitcoin is common property and if it can be manipulated should be done with the same. bitcoin amount is huge and I'm not sure if bitcoin can be manipulated by some people. bitcoin ours and we are the owners of bitcoin !!
Yes,manipulation can be done easily in altcoins which has low marketcap.But, i think in bitcoin which has a huge marketcap,it is not easy to manipulate the price.Even,bitcoin price is also not in control of chinese holders nowadays.
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March 07, 2017, 11:45:44 PM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.
Manipulating the price of bitcoins is the basic element that controls the price of bitcoins. Somewhere I read earlier that china's some rich guys or company took huge amount of bitcoins and hence made the price fly and this helped them since the rise in price meant that more guys would buy bitcoins and hence once they see a good price they just dump their coins.
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March 07, 2017, 04:15:49 PM
We could not manipulate bitcoin price but if those people who think they are, well their purpose is to dump all their coins and invest again Well anyway no matter what happens btc price will still at fluctuation always and if that strategy makes other people be profit, then I will say its only has 30% possibility to happen.
No one can manipulate except for a group who are holding lots of bitcoin and they can dump and buy. if you know there are some group are just giving signal if they are really planning to dump the price since they are large number of group they can push down the price or if they give a signal the price could be increase more they can and buy more bitcoin that can push the value of bitcoin..
That's true and kind of sad because most of us aren't those people who can control the price but those big group can decide to sell all their bitcoins whenever they want and after they sell their is a price crash and after that if they don't decide to buy it again it can cause lot's of trouble to the smaller investors as it may take time for the price to go high again

Well, your complaints are kinda not founded

I guess quite a lot of people right now want to see the price go down a few hundred dollars to buy up cheap bitcoins. In fact, whenever we saw the price go down dramatically, it had been not because of some evil group of big whales (let's call them a pod of cryptowhales) manipulating the price down but largely because of hacks (the Bitfinex incident) or scams (Mt. Gox). The manipulators seem to be more inclined to manipulate the price up rather than down overall
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March 07, 2017, 04:02:01 PM
We could not manipulate bitcoin price but if those people who think they are, well their purpose is to dump all their coins and invest again Well anyway no matter what happens btc price will still at fluctuation always and if that strategy makes other people be profit, then I will say its only has 30% possibility to happen.
No one can manipulate except for a group who are holding lots of bitcoin and they can dump and buy. if you know there are some group are just giving signal if they are really planning to dump the price since they are large number of group they can push down the price or if they give a signal the price could be increase more they can and buy more bitcoin that can push the value of bitcoin..
That's true and kind of sad because most of us aren't those people who can control the price but those big group can decide to sell all their bitcoins whenever they want and after they sell their is a price crash and after that if they don't decide to buy it again it can cause lot's of trouble to the smaller investors as it may take time for the price to go high again
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March 07, 2017, 02:30:07 PM
Many people say that some people manipulate the price of bitcoin. They just at the same time buy up on the battles of the crypto currency. Thanks to this, the price is growing. And they can provoke a price drop
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March 07, 2017, 01:57:01 PM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
but to me i think that it is very much difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin. i think it now becoming more and more difficult.  and that is only because the number of bitcoin users are increasing continuously.
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March 07, 2017, 06:38:27 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
but i think now bitcoin is becoming more and more stronger therefore it is difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin. and specially a single person cannot do that.
It's not possible for a single person, but it's possible for some of the parties make a collusion. But I think it will never happen because the audit by PBOC already prevents the chance to the parties for manipulating the bitcoin.
There is no manipulation for the bitcoin right now, and we always see the bitcoin will become stronger everytime.



It is not possible to make collusion like that right now because we need so many bitcoin users to make a deal to manipulate with bitcoin price so that will never happent but if somebody who is in govrement we contact maybe he can help us for bitcoin manipulations with some kind of laws.
legendary
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March 07, 2017, 02:42:34 AM
If all bitcointalk community turn your power into manipulation, this can be possible, but hard!

And this is illegal, better stay clean
Let me tell you this ,it is not illegal to manipulate the price of any crypto currency as it is not monitored or run by any central authority and that is the best part when it comes to speculation and trading as you can make the most when you could manipulate the market and get away with it  Smiley.
Yeah and it's the beauty of bitcoins that each and everyone of us who even holds like 0.01 bitcoins do manipulate the price of bitcoins.

Wonder how ? Because if someone has 0.01 bitcoins and he fills a order on an exchange with that that means he lowered the price a bit. Actually this manipulation is what a lot of whales play with, and quite easily squeeze some nice profit.
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March 07, 2017, 12:47:46 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
Though it's possible that we can influence the price of bitcoins but it is not that easy since there are guys who hold more than 100 bitcoins and yet they are not sure when the price will went up and down. So, maybe someone having 1k bitcoins can influence the price with a significant change but low amount holders can just be happy by altering a bit.

you should never forget that no matter how much you influence bitcion price and how much you manipulte it, all those effects would be temoprary. none of the last long.
and ever day that passes and new people come in and others become more experienced it becomes harder.
and right now for every newbie weak hand there are 100 experienced traders waiting to buy their hands. and soon it will be 1000 and so on.
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March 07, 2017, 12:16:56 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
Though it's possible that we can influence the price of bitcoins but it is not that easy since there are guys who hold more than 100 bitcoins and yet they are not sure when the price will went up and down. So, maybe someone having 1k bitcoins can influence the price with a significant change but low amount holders can just be happy by altering a bit.
Just give them the opportunity to manipulate as we are not in that level yet, what we should be thinking now is on how they do it and predict what will be the price with their manipulation. I think once the adopters will grow, manipulation of price will be lessen or probably will not happen anymore in the near future.
legendary
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March 07, 2017, 12:02:45 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
Though it's possible that we can influence the price of bitcoins but it is not that easy since there are guys who hold more than 100 bitcoins and yet they are not sure when the price will went up and down. So, maybe someone having 1k bitcoins can influence the price with a significant change but low amount holders can just be happy by altering a bit.
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March 06, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
but i think now bitcoin is becoming more and more stronger therefore it is difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin. and specially a single person cannot do that.
It's not possible for a single person, but it's possible for some of the parties make a collusion. But I think it will never happen because the audit by PBOC already prevents the chance to the parties for manipulating the bitcoin.
There is no manipulation for the bitcoin right now, and we always see the bitcoin will become stronger everytime.
legendary
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March 06, 2017, 07:45:41 PM
We could not manipulate bitcoin price but if those people who think they are, well their purpose is to dump all their coins and invest again Well anyway no matter what happens btc price will still at fluctuation always and if that strategy makes other people be profit, then I will say its only has 30% possibility to happen.
No one can manipulate except for a group who are holding lots of bitcoin and they can dump and buy. if you know there are some group are just giving signal if they are really planning to dump the price since they are large number of group they can push down the price or if they give a signal the price could be increase more they can and buy more bitcoin that can push the value of bitcoin..
sr. member
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March 06, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
We could not manipulate bitcoin price but if those people who think they are, well their purpose is to dump all their coins and invest again Well anyway no matter what happens btc price will still at fluctuation always and if that strategy makes other people be profit, then I will say its only has 30% possibility to happen.
hero member
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March 06, 2017, 06:46:49 PM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
but i think now bitcoin is becoming more and more stronger therefore it is difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin. and specially a single person cannot do that.
hero member
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March 06, 2017, 08:15:16 AM
If all bitcointalk community turn your power into manipulation, this can be possible, but hard!

And this is illegal, better stay clean
Let me tell you this ,it is not illegal to manipulate the price of any crypto currency as it is not monitored or run by any central authority and that is the best part when it comes to speculation and trading as you can make the most when you could manipulate the market and get away with it  Smiley.

If you have a big amount of bitcoins in storage then you will have the capacity to influence or manipulate the price of bitcoin in the market. As long as you dont hold a fake volume like the Chinese Exchanger does then there is nothing wrong. But a good trader in his proper mind will not allow bitcoin to decrease in value again and making his remaining coins in lesser value. If I were to hold a huge amount of coins I will sell them not in one go so I will not affect the price of bitcoin and will enjoy higher profit from the huge price.
sr. member
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March 06, 2017, 06:21:40 AM
I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum


if I could it would take a very mature calculation also needed to funds, if you want to form a cartel with fellow members bitcointalk then the required solidity and will have no consequence let no one harmed, if like this it's hard not necessarily they want
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March 06, 2017, 03:39:40 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.

I agree with you, to manipulate the price of Bitcoin Only those who have a large number of cryptocurrency. They can act so that the price goes up or falls on the stock exchanges.
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